"God-particle" Discovered?

[Spartacus1122]

To the layman, the Higgs boson is the "God particle" and a key puzzle piece in the scientific explanation of the origin of the universe. Physicists around the globe—and perhaps elsewhere, given the size of the universe—have invested billions of dollars in research and have been hunting for the Higgs boson for decades.
Researchers at the European Organization for Nuclear Research (or CERN) are expected to announce Wednesday that they have proof of its existence, reports The Associated Press.
The Higgs boson appeared 13.7 billion years ago in the chaos of the Big Bang and turned the flying debris into galaxies, stars and planets.
Its formal discovery, according to a broad scientific consensus, would be the greatest advance in knowledge of the universe in decades and a key to confirming the standard model of physics that explains what gives mass to matter and, by extension, how the universe was formed, according to the AP.

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[Moe]

As a commercial pilot, I can tell you for sure that we can not predict the weather 100 percent correct at any time. Yet, someone is going to tell us what happened 13.7 billion years ago, give me a break. Why not 13.6 billion years or maybe 13.8 billion years. God speaks that in the last days, false teachers will come upon the scene... My question has always been, why do people go to college and come out stupid?

 

[shawntc]

As a commercial pilot, I can tell you for sure that we can not predict the weather 100 percent correct at any time. Yet, someone is going to tell us what happened 13.7 billion years ago, give me a break. Why not 13.6 billion years or maybe 13.8 billion years. God speaks that in the last days, false teachers will come upon the scene... My question has always been, why do people go to college and come out stupid?

...seriously? You're fretting over the fact they're talking about an old-aged universe? Have you even looked at the science behind these things? I mean, the number doesn't even matter. "In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth." That's good enough for me.

But for God's sake, let us not devolve this into such a debate.

As to your "Why not x or y?" question, 13.7 billion is an approximation. It is their best guess. That's what scientists do. They look at stuff and infer. History repeatedly shows theories being replaced and refined. If good evidence comes up to give reason to believe the universe's age isn't that number, then every true scientist will accept that new data.

 

[djness]

As a commercial pilot, I can tell you for sure that we can not predict the weather 100 percent correct at any time. Yet, someone is going to tell us what happened 13.7 billion years ago, give me a break. Why not 13.6 billion years or maybe 13.8 billion years. God speaks that in the last days, false teachers will come upon the scene... My question has always been, why do people go to college and come out stupid?

Ahh....good for a laugh...''God speaks that in the last days, false teachers will come upon the scene'...

You take the cake for applying something from the bible, to something that has no relation whatsoever. You do know what sort of false teachers the bible is speaking about don't you?

 

[Bushido8000]

UPDATE. They are now saying that they only found "some evidence" of the existence to the "God-Particle"

 

[Knowing]

And i discovered i had a chewing gum particle under my shoe... big deal!

I am a science and mathematical person but even i ain't so pathetically stupid to believe in such hogwash. Yes i admit their theories are enticing but still just theory and actually nonsense. These things make sense to us, but to God all of our understanding is worthless. He could throw our understanding right back to the stone age if He pleased. For God controls science which governs the universe. Scientists today are just fools who blab out nonsense even if it is rubbish or not and because they have a title of being a scientist every dumb nut listens to them and believes them. Where have all the true scientists gone who were like Isaac Newton who among all things first was his passion involved with God and the truth of the Bible.

 

[loveme1]

The only thing I consider is that they seek Yahvah God's blueprints.

Of course I have not idea what they claim to of found.

If they have found something, then why were they seeking it?

It comes back to the Bible, which tell us of a plan to "be like the Most High"..... of course they would seek such information.

Of course it could all be a deception....

They know not that my Yahvah God is Almighty and all powerful...

 

[Foxxtale]

you know... all science tries to explain is the mechanics of how something happens. This particle, assuming it exists, doesn't affect the faith one way or the other. The Higgs Boson, just like evolution, or quantum theory, or the big bang theory, or anything else science has come up with only serves to show that we are beginning to figure out the universe from a mechanical standpoint. It is only part of a theory that tries to explain the structure of matter, nothing more, nothing less.

it's like understanding how a car works. You can take a look at it and see that there is an engine with pistons and camshafts and valves and compression rings and gears and fans... but understanding how it works doesn't even begin to describe why it exists. You don't know who designed that engine. You don't know who built it, or who put it in the car. From a purely mechanical standpoint, that doesn't matter. All that is understood is how, not who.

 

[loveme1]

you know... all science tries to explain is the mechanics of how something happens. This particle, assuming it exists, doesn't affect the faith one way or the other. The Higgs Boson, just like evolution, or quantum theory, or the big bang theory, or anything else science has come up with only serves to show that we are beginning to figure out the universe from a mechanical standpoint. It is only part of a theory that tries to explain the structure of matter, nothing more, nothing less.

it's like understanding how a car works. You can take a look at it and see that there is an engine with pistons and camshafts and valves and compression rings and gears and fans... but understanding how it works doesn't even begin to describe why it exists. You don't know who designed that engine. You don't know who built it, or who put it in the car. From a purely mechanical standpoint, that doesn't matter. All that is understood is how, not who.

Yes, you are right.

Seeking the blue prints.......

Not that we can be sure or believe what they say is true.
The Bible tells us they were at it long ago......


Genesis 11

11 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As people moved eastward,[a] they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.

3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

8 So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. 9 That is why it was called Babel[c] —because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.

 

[Foxxtale]

For anyone that is getting hung up on the name "God Particle", you can relax... it's just a name that the media likes.

Taken from Wikipedia
The Higgs boson is often referred to as the "God particle" by the media, after the title of Leon Lederman's popular science book on particle physics, The God Particle: If the Universe Is the Answer, What Is the Question? While use of this term may have contributed to increased media interest, many scientists dislike it, since it overstates the particle's importance, not least since its discovery would still leave unanswered questions about the unification of quantum chromodynamics, the electroweak interaction, and gravity, as well as the ultimate origin of the universe. Higgs is an atheist, and is displeased that the Higgs particle is nicknamed the "God particle", because the term "might offend people who are religious".

Lederman said he gave it the nickname "The God Particle" because the particle is "so central to the state of physics today, so crucial to our understanding of the structure of matter, yet so elusive," but jokingly added that a second reason was because "the publisher wouldn't let us call it the G*d**mn Particle, though that might be a more appropriate title, given its villainous nature and the expense it is causing."

A renaming competition conducted by the science correspondent for the British Guardian newspaper chose the name "the champagne bottle boson" as the best from among their submissions: "The bottom of a champagne bottle is in the shape of the Higgs potential and is often used as an illustration in physics lectures. So it's not an embarrassingly grandiose name, it is memorable, and [it] has some physics connection too."