Army Tanks Roll Down St. Louis Streets?

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Well, St. Louis is known for its crime...and its a pain to drive through.
 

Nautilus

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oh no! the army picked a city to do urban training in. lets all blow this out of proportion and say stuff like its to contain citizens. because no where else in the world has urban areas where this training could come in handy
 
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systemdown101

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oh no! the army picked a city to do urban training in. lets all blow this out of proportion and say stuff like its to contain citizens. because no where else in the world has urban areas where this training could come in handy
But if someone said the Zionists sent the tanks in under orders from the New World Order in order to place St. Louis under control of the Israeli Illuminati, a whole bunch of people on this board would believe it! :eek:
 
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edward99

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But if someone said the Zionists sent the tanks in under orders from the New World Order in order to place St. Louis under control of the Israeli Illuminati, a whole bunch of people on this board would believe it! :eek:
LOL. Ya.
But what's up with this Systemdown?
No weirdness intended, hopefully a good explanation could be offered.
Personally I don't understand this (from The Forward)
Help. Please.


Jewish Groups Grab Huge Share of Grants
Almost All Homeland Security Grants Go to Jewish Non-Profits

By Josh Nathan-Kazis
Published July 05, 2012, issue of July 13, 2012.

Jewish institutions throughout the United States will receive $9.7 million in federal anti-terrorism grants this year out of a total of $10 million allocated to not-for-profit institutions by the Department of Homeland Security.

That’s $6 million less than last year. But thanks to sharp cuts this year in the overall pool of money available through this program, the percentage of funds going to Jewish groups has nevertheless jumped substantially.

A full 97% of the available funds in the Non-Profit Security Grant Program for 2012 have been allocated to Jewish organizations, compared with 73% that went to Jewish groups from 2007 through 2010. In 2011, Jewish groups received about 80% of NSGP funds.

The NSGP has disproportionately benefited Jewish groups since 2005, when it was first instituted....

...Chabad, the ultra-Orthodox Hasidic group that runs outreach organizations targeting non-Orthodox Jews around the world, did particularly well. At least 35 of the 2012 grantees were linked to Chabad, out of 109 recipients overall.

Only a handful of the 109 NSGP recipients were not Jewish. A church in San Diego received an allocation, as did a Planned Parenthood center in Washington and a Catholic church in New York City.

In her interview with the Forward, Napolitano said that she saw no problem with the overwhelming proportion of NSGP funds going to Jewish groups.


Read more: Jewish Groups Grab Huge Share of Grants
 
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systemdown101

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No weirdness intended, hopefully a good explanation could be offered.
Personally I don't understand this (from The Forward)
Help. Please.
I've said it before, this is Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is often the correct one. The link contains the answer. From the last paragraph:

William Daroff, the Jewish Federations of North America’s vice president for public policy, said that the program’s allocations do not reflect political favoritism towards the Jewish community. “This is not pork,” he said. “This is Homeland Security officials making decisions based on threat levels.”
Translation: It IS Pork. Obama's trying to buy the Jewish vote where he has been losing support lately.
 
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edward99

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I've said it before, this is Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is often the correct one. The link contains the answer. From the last paragraph: [/FONT

Translation: It IS Pork. Obama's trying to buy the Jewish vote where he has been losing support lately.


OK. Politixs as usual I guess. No problem lying about bribes and stuff.
The Homeland Security thing is a bit weird though.
And the coupling of church and state. Oh well.

I posted this over here for ya - it's hilarious!
http://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/43923-london-2012-olympics.html#post731872
 
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Tumnus

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I've heard the "it is pork" expression before, but don't know exactly what it means. Explanation please, thanks.
 
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edward99

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I've heard the "it is pork" expression before, but don't know exactly what it means. Explanation please, thanks.
It just means it's extra-fat stuff added on to bills that don't have much to do with the original bill - so the person who tacked it to the bill will get a kickback of some sort for their district (or pocket).
It's fraud basically.

Pork Fraud 101
Sam puts forward a bill to build a bridge and Jane adds on that she'll vote for it, but she needs a trillion dollars for a summer home.
Everybody wants Sam's bill passed, so they say OK.

And they know its their turn next.
 
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Foxxtale

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(from Wikipedia)
Fear mongering (or scaremongering or scare tactics) is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle.
Low Flying Military Helicopters Over Boston Buzz Buildings During Training Exercise - YouTube
Military Helicopters Conduct Covert Exercises Over Los Angeles, California Jan. 25, 2012 - YouTube
Blackhawk and Little Bird Helicopter Training Exercise in Chicago Suburbs - YouTube

anyone else noticing a pattern here?
 
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Foxxtale

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For God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love, and self-discipline. (2 Timothy 1:7)
in the end, it doesn't matter what happens here on earth. God has already set up the plans, and there is absolutely no way that any of us is going to change them. If it is His will to allow the united states to become a police state, no amount of worrying about it will change that. If it is not His will to allow the united states to become a police state, then what is the point of worrying about it?

do not give into the fear they are selling. it only serves to distract from what is truly important.
 
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edward99

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in the end, it doesn't matter what happens here on earth. God has already set up the plans, and there is absolutely no way that any of us is going to change them. If it is His will to allow the united states to become a police state, no amount of worrying about it will change that. If it is not His will to allow the united states to become a police state, then what is the point of worrying about it?

do not give into the fear they are selling. it only serves to distract from what is truly important.
Its not about worrying or fear.
Its about being awake or asleep.
 
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Foxxtale

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Its not about worrying or fear.
Its about being awake or asleep.
I hear that phrase a lot, and have even used it myself... but let me ask you: awake or asleep to what, exactly?
corrupt politicians? a corrupt government? a police state? the illuminati plot to control the world through a "new world order"? that there is genuine evil out there and that it controls nearly every aspect of life here on earth?
It has been no secret that this world, for the moment, is ruled by Satan. Even the bible acknowledges Satan as the "god of this age". (2 Corinthians 4:4) Of course the governments of the world are going to be corrupt. They are ruled by evil, both directly and indirectly, because they are part of this world.

None of that matters, though.

this "awakening" is nothing but a false revolution to further the exact same new world order agenda previously mentioned, while at the same time allowing people to think they are doing something to help defeat evil.

That is why movies like "zeitgeist" expose things like the Federal Reserve's corruption and 9/11 being an inside job, while also trying to deceive people into believing that Jesus Christ was nothing but a copy of older "gods". it is why these same movies try to further a "one world government" and a "one world religion". They are not waking people up to the truth, they are just selling a different dream.

None of that matters either.

The world is decaying before our eyes, yes. it has been for a long time. And while this earth is currently ruled by Satan, it still BELONGS to God. Nothing that happens will be outside of His plan, and there is only one real truth that you need to be awake to. It has nothing to do with corruption of government, or a police state, or false flag attacks, or a new world order.

The only thing you need to be awake to is the fact that Jesus Christ came to save us from our sins, and no matter what happens, that will never change. So long as you accept His truth, literally nothing that happens on this planet matters.
 

loveme1

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They are not waking people up to the truth, they are just selling a different dream.
Or nightmare my friend, but you are correct that is what they are doing.

Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah always and forever.
 
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edward99

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I hear that phrase a lot, and have even used it myself... but let me ask you: awake or asleep to what, exactly?
corrupt politicians? a corrupt government? a police state? the illuminati plot to control the world through a "new world order"? that there is genuine evil out there and that it controls nearly every aspect of life here on earth?
It has been no secret that this world, for the moment, is ruled by Satan. Even the bible acknowledges Satan as the "god of this age". (2 Corinthians 4:4) Of course the governments of the world are going to be corrupt. They are ruled by evil, both directly and indirectly, because they are part of this world.

None of that matters, though.

this "awakening" is nothing but a false revolution to further the exact same new world order agenda previously mentioned, while at the same time allowing people to think they are doing something to help defeat evil.

That is why movies like "zeitgeist" expose things like the Federal Reserve's corruption and 9/11 being an inside job, while also trying to deceive people into believing that Jesus Christ was nothing but a copy of older "gods". it is why these same movies try to further a "one world government" and a "one world religion". They are not waking people up to the truth, they are just selling a different dream.

None of that matters either.

The world is decaying before our eyes, yes. it has been for a long time. And while this earth is currently ruled by Satan, it still BELONGS to God. Nothing that happens will be outside of His plan, and there is only one real truth that you need to be awake to. It has nothing to do with corruption of government, or a police state, or false flag attacks, or a new world order.

The only thing you need to be awake to is the fact that Jesus Christ came to save us from our sins, and no matter what happens, that will never change. So long as you accept His truth, literally nothing that happens on this planet matters.
Foxxtale: do people just get out of bed one day and decide to "be awake" to the fact that Christ came to save us from our sins?

Something happens in their lives and they SEEK (and are drawn). 9-11 is a perfect example, whatever your position on "who did it" is. That information, the way it is processed is leading Christians in one of 2 directions (3 including complete denial).

They are not waking people up to the truth, they are just selling a different dream.
You are clearly not aware of the numbers coming to Christ through the very unveiling of world events.
Do a poll and ask how many sought out the Bible for answers when their eyes were opened?

Absolutely the world of "conspiracy theories" and disinfo can be a morass - but how is it you don't know there are millions out there right now searching for answers to what is going down? Fortunately there are Christians there to point to scripture.

I'm not attempting to change your mind about anything. But how many places are we warned about deception?
Deception Jesus said eventually would be so severe, only His keeping would prevent the saints from being deceived. This is serious enough to not shut down the reality that people are waking up due to world events. Regardless of what you have posted above, they are searching for answers. Hopefully we are there, not ridiculing them and denying what they're seeing or saying (whether we believe it or not).

ALL of what's happening is connected. Obviously. As Christians we know we are safe in Christ - but the lost who are searching DO NOT.

A simple example: concerning the coming the "totalitarianism"; "papers please" issue is not because I fear we will be persecuted (we will - anyone not simply accepting this as likely should they live long enough is foolish)....no, my fear is through deception and the counterfeit system in place we will be deceived into being the persecutors. Not the prisoners, but the guards! It's already happening that people who claim the Name of Christ have become killers because they have been thoroughly deceived by an astonishing false gospel. This was accomplished through a dreadful conspiracy which gave us a thoroughly corrupt facsimile of Christianity.

If you don't know what I mean, consider this post (and the author's other posts):

#55
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/44159-israel-3.html

Because of ridicule and an apparent conditioned response to reject the notion we might be believing falsely, the information the author of post 55 provides is offered faithfully again and again I noticed, yet barely even noticed.not comprehended. If it is, it appears to be unmentionable.

It's all connected. Denial isn't helping.
 
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edward99

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Or nightmare my friend, but you are correct that is what they are doing.

Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah always and forever.
loveme1, I thought you had continuing cryptic comments regarding "an evil agenda"; yet you don't elaborate.
Would you be so kind as to do so now?
Which way will you have it?
 
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psychomom

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*applauds this excellent interchange of ideas*
 
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Tumnus

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With the buzz about possible martial law in the news, what drew my attention is the military and police making YouTube videos and blogs expressing their concern and dismay. Now if those individuals, who have dedicated their lives to serve and protect their fellow citizens and uphold the Constitution are concerned I definitely will listen to what they have to say.
 

loveme1

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loveme1, I thought you had continuing cryptic comments regarding "an evil agenda"; yet you don't elaborate.
Would you be so kind as to do so now?
Which way will you have it?
I'm talking in reference to the likes of "alex jones" and "david ickes".... they are all and one of the same one is to provoke people into a violent reaction to give cause to arrest, the other is having people believe some very strange un biblical things....


Yes, there is an evil agenda and you will hear some of it through those men and affiliates, but I always say if it does not fit with the Bible then stay away.

I may have misunderstood foxtale......

Glory to Yahvah God and Yahshua the Messiah.
 
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