LAPD Looks to Wireless Surveillance Cameras

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One thing that bugs me about those cameras are that they are wireless and use cell-phone technology. That means they can be put anywhere at any time. 1984 has finally arrived!!

(1984 is a famous book by Orson Wells)
 

Nautilus

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Or you could think of it like that scene from The Dark Knight where Batman used the cell phones basically as a giant radar system thing...that was sweet
 

Descyple

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Luckily that is only going on in the U.S. and not here in Canada. For security up here we continue to use still-photo polaroids for cameras (but waiting for the photo to develop in our hands while we hold it is a real hassle, especially during a robbery), and for a telephone we use the original prototype that Alexander Graham Bell invented and we share it between all ten provinces (that causes a lot of problems at Christmas time though!!!).
 

Dude653

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One thing that bugs me about those cameras are that they are wireless and use cell-phone technology. That means they can be put anywhere at any time. 1984 has finally arrived!!

(1984 is a famous book by Orson Wells)
To quote the book of Romans...Only those that are doing wrong have reason to fear the law.
 
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Why do folks who live in a democratic republic act like we're powerless against this? We can pass laws to outlaw this stuff.
 

Dude653

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Why do folks who live in a democratic republic act like we're powerless against this? We can pass laws to outlaw this stuff.
Outlaw what?? Let law enforcement do its job. You can film me all day long, I am not breaking the law. I have nothing to hide.
 

iamsoandso

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look up "shadow hawk" then recearch "mongomery co, sheriffs dept.arming drones,,,,(teargas/rubber bullets),,"my concern is if one malfunctions and crashes,,will the weapons still be on them when they find them?",,,and would you want gangs,criminals with access to these things?,,,remote cameras(are old school technology) the sheriff dept. where i live investigated a murder(three old men arguing over fence line),,,,,,,within a few days they had pulled the films from the w-mart where he bought the shells,,the film from the red lights,,the film from the conveience stores (they are aimed at the parking lots and also at the roads in front of the stores),,,,once i saw them zoom in to the grocery store across the street (200 yards) and identafy the ones who broke into the coke machines in the middle of the night.,,,,in a high profile investigation they can retrieve information from either gov.sattelites or private satellites (i.e.Google earth etc.) and view the past recordings of a given area they are saved to the hard drive,,, so for instance if they need to see what happened(every car or person who walked down the road in front of you house (this day last year) they simply find it on the drive and watch it,,,,,,in the 70's a friend of mine's son was a radio/surveillance officer navy,,,,,he was in the pacific ocean and sent his parents a photograph of the cars parked in their driveway. ,,unless you remove the battery and the sim card from your phone it still pings the towers you pass (it tracks the phone for service) so they would know what road you drove down and where you went,,,,,,by your phone records(weather you made a call or not or if your phone was off or on)it is in "conserve power mode",,so you wont loose stored data,,contacts,settings ect.,so even with the battery out it in effect,is still on untill the capasitors consume the power (charged while the battery was in it),,,,to a point where it looses it's memory,,,,,,,but even then it can be rebooted (always destroy your old phones) never sell them to anyone,,,if your hard drive goes bad on your computer take it apart pull out the cd's in it and beat them with a hammer,,,,,,,if someone gets a hold of it and is crafty they will take the pc board off the same brand/model drive and fire it back up,,,or if internal motors are out in a (sealed environment/dust free),,,they can still take two drives apart and put your cd's into the working hard drive,reseal it install it into a computer and have fixed your hard drive with all photos,pass words,family info etc. intact,,,,,,,they will use backdoor p/words to access your drive content,"beat them with a hammer before you toss them out",,,,when i was young i always liked planes so if i hear one "i look up",,,if i hear a r.c plane i get excited and look for it,,,,ultralights sound different from others,,,,,,,,,,since about 10 years ago me and my sons have spotted four,(drones),,,one was all black,no front windshield/cockpit,,about seven feet long,,similar to a helicopter ( that is if you hear it and look up,you'll just think it's a helicopter flying over) most are,,but you'll eventually see one that looks like it's 3000 feet up but if you look close youll figure out it's only about 400 to 500 feet above you ,,,it's muffler expands at the end,,and just like the tailpipe tips you get to make the trucks sound loud it changes the engine sound to sound like a real helicopter from a greater distance (notice their attempt to make you believe it's something it is not) the other is almost the same as this one but is about 15 feet long they are all black also with a thin red stripe down the tail and no cock pit,,,(the nose of both i described are solid black) and they both look just like a distant helicopter,the other is harder to see,,,,,,it was (flat color not shiny,light blue,white and silver grey?) hard to see get binoculars,,,,,,it was about 6-600 feet up shaped like a "stingray without a tail",,it has four propellers on top 1,2,3,4 in a square,,,you'd think i thought i saw ufo's lol,,,,,,,,,but naah!,after i saw them i search for info about them,,,,there are about 30,000 applicants in the u.s. different agencies who are seeking to receive funding for them police dept.s ect. and they are also sold to companies to survey pipelines ect.,,,it's like playing a video game (man sits in booth put's on v.r.helmet,,,and fly's drone,,,,,,,,,,there will come a day and pilots will go back to the base and go to the officers club and tell the stories about "the dog fight,they had this morning with the fighter that does not pass out from g-force,,,,,,,about the fact that he was fearless in battle,,,,,,,,as though he was not afraid to die,,at times flying at them as though they were going to crash into them,,and so small they could not acquire a target to shoot at,,vicious little things,,that you cannot see till they shoot past you and then you see them not again,,till there back,,things to small for radar to track or see",,,there will come a time and a child who was home schooled who has millions of hours on a video game and computer will out preform the others who got on the bus and spent 8 hours in school class and 2 hours of homework,,,,,,,,,then "you can play video's for and hour"times 12 years,,,,,,has less experience at the "thing that is needed in that day",,,they will fly the fighters that are disposable,,,as disposable as the bullets they shoot,,why make them so complex they are valuable?,,,,why let anyone see the technology? make them self destruct then get up and go eat a snack,,,,,,you save half the fuel and have no maintenance,,,,then there is no need for a large military,,,,,,,no jeeps ,no buses, no unaforms,,,no food bill for the pilots,no mail man to send them letters,no court marshals,,,,no tooth brushes,,,no razors,,,,no hair cuts,,,,,,no Dr. bills,,,no retirement,,no p.o.w.'s,,,no rescue missions,,,,,,you don't so much as have to pay them,,,,,,,,,,,only the one pilot sitting in the little booth somewhere,,,,,let one fly it for a while till they almost triangulate to him,,,,,then it's break time,,,,and the other takes over a couple of hundred miles away,,,,,,,,,,then to the next,,,,,why put them on a ship?,,,,,,,,,why put them in harms way?,,,,,,,,,,,the one in his house coat and pajamas drinking coffee and eating doughnut's ,,,,,,,,,,,,"the disposable fighter",,,,,,,,,,
 
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edward99

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Outlaw what?? Let law enforcement do its job. You can film me all day long, I am not breaking the law. I have nothing to hide.
YA! Let them do their job! Your baby is a terrorist.
Or, he might be...I'll report you just in case. You don't mind do you?






Well then you won't mind them driving by watching you and your wife in the marriage bed...or your teen-aged daughter in the shower.

Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans


Full-Body Scan Technology Deployed In Street-Roving Vans - Forbes
 
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edward99

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Impossible to read.

Use the return button on your keyboard to break up what you are saying.

It would have an arrow symbol or something similar. The comma key is not your friend (,). Please use return.

I may try to see what you've spent 10 minutes [edit - an hour?] posting.
Thank you
 
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To quote the book of Romans...Only those that are doing wrong have reason to fear the law.
render to Caesar what is his. Taxes; money; the law of his land....But do you belong to Caesar?
I advocate no violence; no resistance to what's happening outside peaceful legal means (all must come to pass); but this is all leading to us SHUTTING UP and NOT speaking His Name.

I guess you haven't figured out yet our "gov't" is LAWLESS.
And the target is Christianity.
Just remember that when the time comes.

Acts 5
27When they had brought them, they stood them before the Council. The high priest questioned them, 28saying, “We gave you strict orders not to continue teaching in this name, and yet, you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and intend to bring this man’s blood upon us.” 29 But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men. 30“The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom you had put to death by hanging Him on a cross. 31“He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. 32“And we are witnesses of these things; and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey Him.”
 

Nautilus

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Why do people apparently love the idea being persecuted, i just dont get it, but it's all they talk about.
 
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,there will come a time and a child who was home schooled who has millions of hours on a video game and computer will out preform the others who got on the bus and spent 8 hours in school class and 2 hours of homework,,,,,,,,,then "you can play video's for and hour"times 12 years,,,,,,has less experience at the "thing that is needed in that day
Who are these home schooled children you describe? Most of the homeschoolers I know don't even let their kiddos watch television, let alone spend 14 hours a day playing video games.
Granted, things have changed since my kiddos were little and my fellow homeschool moms used to call me for news info, since we were the only ones in our group who had a TV (judiciously used). But most Christian homeschooled kids still know how to play outside.
You make it sound like government schools are preferable to educating one's children at home, since if they're home they will undoubtedly have zero education and tons of experience with violent video games. (just a note- I have no problem with video games per se)

Okay, my response is over the top. (apologies) And I know there are parents who choose homeschooling not due to reasons Christians do, and who are not Christians.
But I think you should be careful whom you level accusations at, because there's bound to be some crazy homeschool mom who will step in to defend her extremely hard working, diligent fellow homeschool parents. ;)

Cheers!
ellie
 
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To quote the book of Romans...Only those that are doing wrong have reason to fear the law.
Ever hear of Hitler? He's this short little man who laid down the law in Germany during WWII.
 

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"i am not against home schooling",,,,,,,,,,i have five son's,,,,,,the last three were home schooled,,,,,,,,the first two were not,,,,,,,,,,,they think like you see on t.v.,,,,,,the oldest is 31,he's beginning to see and come back,,,,,,,the other still throws fits and stays away,,,,,,,(wish i would have know it at the beginning),,,,,,,,,the last three,,i realized were being led to do something else by them,,,,,,the movies came out about "Thor",,,,,,,i researched it and found (from the video games(they my last three were correcting me as to which god was who),,,,,,,,they understood them all (ask your children about the games),,,,,,,,,"let them tell you",,,,,,,,then look at the bible and compare,,,,,,i flew planes,worked for hederic beachcraft,,,took airforce r.o.t.c. in school,,,,,,,and then had to bow down as my last three children,,,,,10,15,and 17 year old sons,,,,,,,,,,,as they explained how drones really work,,,,,,,,,,"how to actually fly them",,,,,,"it was eye opening to try to teach them(as a home schooling parent)things they saw as old school,,,,,,,,,"i didn't understand the boredom at first",,,,,,,,,,,117a stealth fighter is a deathtrap daddy,,is what they said,,,,,,,,Abrams tanks make them laugh,,,,,,,,,Russian tanks are made of carbon fiber and only the toe missile can penetrate them,,,,,,,,,if you can run 80 miles an hour(and run beside them),,,you can set them on fire with a cigarette lighter,,,,,,,but you cant run that fast,,,,,,,,,i didn't know these things till we were in homeschooling class and they told me,,,,,,,,,i didn't care if i could win the game,,,,,,,,i just did a double take at the games i got from wall-mart and gave to them,,,,,,,,,,,Xbox 360,,,,,,that's why they don't try to nudge you out of the chair and sit down at the desk top,,,,,,,,,,,"it's the stone age",,,,,,,,,,,,,
 

JimJimmers

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To quote the book of Romans...Only those that are doing wrong have reason to fear the law.
That's a paraphrase, not a quote, but I digress. Romans says to "yield obedience to all the just laws of the land." That doesn't mean letting them put a tele-screen in your living room.
 
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edward99

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Ever hear of Hitler? He's this short little man who laid down the law in Germany during WWII.
He pulled a couple false flags then installed himself "legally", then just changed the laws. Ya.
Exactly.