Jesus Married???

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lordsservant121

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I read an article that states Jesus may have been married and I know it caused quite an argument at my church from some people. What I wanted to know is, would it really shake most peoples faith to learn that Jesus was married? For myself I say no. I know that I love GOD and HE loves me, undeserving as I am but why do most people just have to start yelling at the issue like learning if it was true means they would love GOD or Jesus less. I just don't understand what this is a hot button issue, please help.
 
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Brother in the Lord, Jesus did not marry. Read the gospel they never mention once that Jesus got involved in marriage. He came to save the sinner and free us from death and sin, he did not come to get married he was God, it's almost an insult saying that he did. I dont not mean to affend, God does not need anything and marrying on earth does not make sense. They might talk about it in the world but it's not in the word of God.

And if he married and it was written in the bible i would believe but it is not written so it is not true and cannot have and power as only Gods word and hold it.
 
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aprilandkeion

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heresy........
 

shawntc

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Would it have shaken my faith? Probably not. After all, he still died for our sins and was resurrected. Also, the Gospels don't include every single detail of his life. It's rather quiet about him between the ages of 12 and 30. The writers chose to exclude irrelevant details. One could guess that if Jesus did marry, for some reason or another they considered it an irrelevant detail.

Besides, he's the Savior of all mankind. I wouldn't mind if he had a lady in his life. If anyone deserves it, it's him... :D
 

eugenius

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This is part of the whole DaVinci code Mary Magdalene drama. There are hundreds of apologetic lectures and books out there that discredit it.

If you have the time, listen to the following lectures. They are from an actual philosophy course at a Christian university taught by Phil Fernandes.

http://server.firefighters.org/fernandes/36724.mp3
http://server.firefighters.org/fernandes/36725.mp3
http://server.firefighters.org/fernandes/36726.mp3

The following is much shorter but also good.

http://www.rzim.org/let-my-people-think-broadcasts/the-authority-of-the-word-part-1-of-2/


We don't have that much information about the historical Jesus, but what we do have is enough to tell us that he existed, made some very bold claims, did many miracles, was reported to be resurrected by thousands of people, and thousands more died for belief in him.

We know this from writings by Roman and Greek historians as well as the Jewish historian Josephus.

We do not know details such as Jesus was married or what he looked like or anything else. The only place where we even got an idea of what he might have looked like is the shroud of Turin and ancient paintings as well as educated guesses based on what Jews looked like in the 1st century.


Can you please post the article you read? See this is why I and a few others are promoting apologetics on this website. All evidence must be tested rationally. Don't believe everything you read on the news or online.
 
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Would it shake my faith? No, why would it? My faith isn't so weak that it hinges on the apparent singleness of jesus
 
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zaggamorre

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NOT True!! Jesus was never married.Though he was a man,but I'm sure he wasn't as human as we are.He never sinned. Salvation is what He came for.Attraction,marriage wasnt in His mind though He taught us the rules of rightful/blissful marriage. I mean, c'mon!

Do you know why most scientists aren't married?(they usu.look like "trolls",the supernatural beings in Norse mythology'-lol) Probably 'coz they spend a lot of time on research,experiments over scientific discoveries. They forget about themselves. SEE??? They're just scientists. But HE is Jesus'-) You know what I mean, I hope.

Wiles of Satan!! Don't be fooled'-) Keep reading your bible instead.COz the more we walk with Him,the more we'll know Him ;-) Amen?!! ;-)
 
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Most scientists aren't married? Where do you get that?
 
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We are the Bride of Christ! Aside from that, shouldn't there be some kind of geneaology records?
 
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Tearose there were in fact some genealogical records but they were suspect almost from the first. The Merovingian dynasty in Southern France claimed to have the blood line of Christ, they were wiped out by the Catholic church. The book Holy Blood Holy Grail discusses that theory along with some others. It was so wrong on so much that it is hard to believe anything it says.
 
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intercessorginger

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There was a scrap of paprys found but it has been proven out to be a fake. It had many grammar errors in it.
But logically, knowing what we do about the Lord..He would not get married, have children and leave them without a father or husband. That is so out of character for the Love of God !
 
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Charlamane

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There's no reason whatsoever to think Jesus was ever married. If He had been, why wouldn't it have been mentioned in scriptures? Afterall, it wouldn't have been considered wrong by the writers of the gospels. He obviously wasn't married. When He was on the cross, He asked John to look after His mother. He didn't mention any wife there or anywhere else. This is just another fantasy contrived for itching ears.
 

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Luke 12:29 - 34 And Jesus said,, "And dont be concerned about what to eat and what to drink. Don't worry about such things, these things dominate the thoughts of unbelievers all over the world, but your Father already knows your needs. Seek the Kingdom of God first above all else and he will give you everything you need. So don't be afraid, little flock. For it gives your Father great happiness to give you the Kingdom. Sell your possessions and give to those in need. This will store up treasure for you in heaven! And the purses of heaven never get old or develop holes! Your treasure will be safe; no thief can steal it and no moth can destroy it. Wherever your treasure is, there the desire of your heart is also be.

Hmm.. Does this sound like the desire of a man who was out to please himself as to be joined to another for when married the two shall be joined as one...

Luke 12:48 But someone who does not know, and then does something wrong will be punished only lightly. When someone has been given much, much will be required in return; and when someone has been entrusted with much, even more will be required.

Jesus certainly was entrusted with the whole world wasn't he... I think a lot was required out of Him to make sure that His attention and focus would never get distracted from His goal... In fact, Satan came as this distraction, and if Jesus turned him down, dont you think he would have been smart enough to turn down the same about getting married too?

Luke 12:51 Do you think i have come to bring peace to the earth? No, i have come to divide people against each other. From now on families will be split apart, three in favor of me, and two against - or two in favor and three against.

Do these words sound like the words from a man who thinks mainly and solely of of himself? Who places himself first among the people? For when a person is married, they must give up of themselves and place the other persons desires and love for the other to supersede their own. This is what true love is as it is perfect love. We all know God loves perfectly and if Jesus Is God in the flesh, and if he were married, then his marriage would of been the prime example of what the best marriage would be for any of us, and i am certain, the disciples would not have mistakenly given omitted to us this important detail so we could cherish, learn and commit too.

Now i am not saying that anyone who is married only thinks of them-selves and they do not follow God. But scripture says that we have to have our feet firmly planted on the foundation in order to succeed. Anyone who is in ministry knows, its not easy work. And Jesus was perfect. He never sinned. Saying that, and knowing what we know about what it takes to be a perfect husband, how perfect would it be to go off for weeks, months or longer at a time, without word or knowledge to your spouse, or even the thought to mention her in journals to friends about his adventures or happenings? There is no mentions of this at all. Now as a wife, and a woman, i can tell you most of us, would not be pleased with this ordeal, ministry or not. So was this purposely kept hidden, like a conspiracy as some are suspecting? I should say not! For Gods word also says 2 Cor 6:14 How can light live with darkness? So if Jesus, who is the Light of the world that radiates light, which is all that is good and open, keep anything that is dark or hidden within it that is on purpose to deceive us? It cant!

God's Word was carefully selected and written but God Himself and penned threw men that God chose capable to do this job. It says in Revelations 22:17-19
The Spirit and the bride say `Come.`Let anyone who hears this say, `Come.` And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the words of prophesy written in this book: if anyone adds to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. And if anyone removes any of the words from this book of prophecy, God will remove that person`s share in the tree of life and i the holy site that are described in this book.


Just know that our God is a committed and faithful God who is committed to us and His Father in Heaven. He is not doubly minded and when He came here to do His job, He was able to focus and do it well and do it completely as he said on the cross, It is finished. He is committed to all of us, not just one wife for a short while that he was on earth, that he was only able to be a partly husband to and as a half way job. Just look at gods creations, God never did anything imperfect.. All was magnificent! And since we are promised to be His bride in heaven, not just one or two of us, but all of us, doesn't that show us something? For what does God say about remarrying? This should be another example... And just in case your wondering, this marriage has nothing to do with a man and a woman, but only LOVE, Commitment, Faithfulness, Righteousness and Inheritance.
1 Cor 13: 4-7 Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice whenever the truth wins out. Love never give up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance. Ephesians 5:25 For husbands this means to love your wives, just as Christ loved the church. He gave up His life for her to make her holy and clean, washed by the cleansing of Gods word. Notice how it doesn't tell us husbands to love as Christ loved his wife? I wonder if this is because he didn't have one knowing it does not mention in scripture about the King of the world with a queen perhaps...for when taking the scripture into account, we have to think it all thoroughly through..

For me, its like this, if i assume Jesus was married, then i am guessing, as it does not state this in the scriptures and i am adding to the book and doing exactly what it tells me NOT to do. I have to go with what i Do know and trust in it completely or not. Its just that simple. Either i take ALL as Gods Word, or None. For if even one small segment is questioned in my viewpoint, then i am entitling myself permission to be holy ghost Jr to be smart enough based on my own small mindedness to judge which of gods word is correct and what is not. And quite frankly, i am no way in any shape or form in able to be up this magnitude of a job. In fact, i don't believe anyone on the face of the earth is, but God Himself, as He alone wrote the scriptures as this is a matter of faith, and trust alone.

Either i trust Him or I don't. I guess I'm way too simple for many folk and i guess its true, but i don't know how else to do it. So, even if all the scientist tried to show me proof of what ever they wanted to disproof what ever they wanted of the bible, I have to rely on Gods word. For if i gave in for this one thing today, what would i give it too tomorrow?
I made my choice a long time ago and this is where i stand. Not going back not now, or ever. Hes been with me too long and brought me through too much for that to ever happen.

Focus on the Word and remain in the light and what isn't of the Word,, let it fall where it may.... like the grains of seeds that fell on soiled ground will rot away...
 
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lordsservant121

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Dotann....i understand what you are saying but doesn't that open up an argument for me to say maybe this is Jesus' trying to open your eyes and show you a new truth. HE works in mysterious ways. Could HE not be trying to get the message out that, "yes I was married but it was not a big deal" but our human minds say no, "if it is not in this book (the bible) its a lie." Who choose the books of the bible? Might they have been chosen wrong. Not to say the bible was wrong but just to say some were left out that should have been in there. I am just trying to say....if "with GOD all things are possible", then why does everyone fight this one idea. Is everything possible or not?!?!?!?
 

Dotann

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Hi Lordservant121, I guess it all depends on if you believe God ordained (directed) the bible to fall into the hands of the people that it has so that it would be printed into the books it is now? Doesn't God prepare the paths of men as the bible says? As He knows beginning, middle and end...

Jesus was not more man, than God. What i mean is, his manly desires did not overwrite his godly character, for Jesus is 100% man and 100% God at same time. It would be impossible for Him to be any less. Many want to think that He were less god than man, as it gives us an escape goat to say, we too can allow lust and our own urges/desires to consume us into letting us turn away from where God wants us to be. See for when we become married, we cannot totally serve the father and our spouse as a total commitment without the others consent and their approval first when getting directions as the two shall become one. If Jesus had become married, he would have needed this approval, this commitment and this support from his wife to complete his job fully and faithfully to submit to what the Father had planned for him to do. But the thing is, because Jesus is so faithful and good, he would never commit to anything If He knew in advance that He could never fulfill it if full. that is to say, if Jesus knew the plans His Father had for Him, and then went ahead and got married even with the approval, He would have known it would still have causes grief and anguish with His wife as this would not be something a good husband would do in love. For a good husband would never on purpose promise to commit and protect and love their wife when they knew they would not be there to do it.
Also, before Jesus had to do anything, he would have had to talk things over with his wife and plan things ahead of time instead of just going out and asking his father as scriptures says. These are the actions of a man who is divided between two loyalties. One being His father in heaven and the other his wife.
If Jesus had been a perfect husband as we know scriptures tells us he would have been, as He wrote the book on it (bible). He tells us how a perfect husband loves faithfully and completely. Scripture says, husbands you will love your wives as i have loved the church.. Tell me,, why didn't he make a reference to himself IF He were married? But instead he used the church as this guide because the church is the only marriage he has.
We are all going to be His bride when He returns... Jesus doesn't marry twice... He loves us all,, not just one woman as in for lust or love for that was not the reason he came to earth. He chose to focus on the job he was sent here for while on earth and He did it and he did it perfectly. That is why He said it is finished....

We have to be careful not to omit or add to scripture for this is how Adam and Eve first came into sin. They thought it sounded right, but only one or two things wrong and if we don't know the Word, and it can really harm us. For if we don't stand on it, we can be led astray. It might happen slowly and gradually, and we might think it cant shake our faith. But that is how the small foxes spoil the vine. It builds up to bigger and better things until soon, our faith is shaken and the Word has become nothing but weeds.... This is how Satan works....
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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Read the gospel they never mention once that Jesus got involved in marriage.
It doesn't say he wasn't married. A rabbi at that time, the default would have been married. If he hadn't been married, it would have been mentioned because it would have been notable. For example, John the Baptist was single, and that was notable and therefore mentioned.

The fact that the Bible doesn't mention it is just as likely to suggest that he WAS married.

it's almost an insult saying that he did.
How is getting married an insult? Did God not say, "It is not good for man to be alone?" Didn't God create man and woman for each other? God's intention is for male and female to be united. Marriage is a gift from God. Why would Jesus reject this gift?

I dont not mean to affend,
Well, it takes a lot more than that to offend me, but I'm really curious as to what you think marriage is, that it's so "dirty" and "vulgar" that it should be avoided. If it's wrong, why would God give it to us?

God does not need anything and marrying on earth does not make sense.
See, to me, being single doesn't make sense. Yes, I know there are people out there who are happily single, but I just don't get it. I actually was one of those people for many years, but once I met my husband, and God whispered to me, "This is the one I have for you .... he was worth the wait." My life would not be complete without family. God created us as social beings. We were created to have families, not to remain single.

They might talk about it in the world but it's not in the word of God.
How about, "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife."
Or even the wedding at Canaan, Jesus felt that was a worthy enough occasion for him to perform his first miracle. If he was so anti-marriage, he wouldn't have attended that event, let alone serve as the bartender.

I honestly don't understand why so many people are getting their undies in a bunch about something like this.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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This is part of the whole DaVinci code Mary Magdalene drama. There are hundreds of apologetic lectures and books out there that discredit it.

Though I thoroughly enjoyed The DaVinci Code as literature, I'm with you as far as its fiction. It was pure fiction, and I was frustrated by how many people didn't realize it, people thought, "Yeah, but it's based on truth...." the only things true in that movie were that DaVinci painted the Last Supper, and that the original painting is at the Louvre. The rest is poppycock. It's wonderfully crafted poppycock, which is what made it such a great book (I read the book before seeing the movie, and actually they did a good job with the movie), but pure fiction.

This new "wife of Jesus" thing is not related to the Brown books. There actually was a scrap of parchment found that may mention Jesus' wife. All it says is, "....the wife of Jesus Christ...." So there's no proof that it's authentic, no claims of divine inspiration. Then again, there are parts of Scripture that go on less evidence.

Can you please post the article you read? See this is why I and a few others are promoting apologetics on this website. All evidence must be tested rationally. Don't believe everything you read on the news or online.
This has been reported by all the major news sources. Here are a few links for you:

Beliefnet

BBC News

Washington Post
 
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aprilandkeion

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Matthew 12:36

But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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One thing that concerns / bothers me about a lot of the rhetoric here (and elsewhere) against the idea of Jesus being marriage is what it says about people's ideas on what marriage means. With few exceptions, most people who are speaking against it are upset with the idea that Jesus might have had sex. Let's set the whole concept of Jesus having sex aside for the moment, because I agree: the very thought of that makes me uncomfortable.

I want to know why the assumption / default is that all marriage is about is sex. Yes, marriage is the only place a couple can have sex without doing so in sin, but there's SOOOOO much more to marriage than sex. OMG, if the only reason to get married is to have sex, do you really think gays would be fighting for that right? They already have sex without the benefit of marriage, so clearly that's not what they're looking for. Marriage is a uniting of two people as one, not sexually (or at least not "just" sexually, and when it is sexual, it's only for a short time (depending on ... oh, never mind)), but emotionally and spiritually.

Marriage is about sharing your life with another person, not just your body. Sharing your soul, your hopes and dreams. There are plenty of couples out there who don't have sex for various reasons (age, physical disabilities, etc.) and remain married. While lack of sex, from what I've heard, is a valid excuse for divorce (at least legally), many couples recognize that their marriage is way more than a simple act, so they remain true to each other despite that.

It's rather disturbing to me to think that gays who are fighting for the right to marry, even those who are sinning without it, "get" this concept more than devout, Bible-believing "Christians." Something is deeply wrong with that.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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There was a scrap of paprys found but it has been proven out to be a fake. It had many grammar errors in it.
But logically, knowing what we do about the Lord..He would not get married, have children and leave them without a father or husband. That is so out of character for the Love of God !
It was not "proven" to be a fake. Many scholars believe it to be a fake, but there is no proof.

Actually, your argument is one of the best I've heard against Jesus being married.