Christian spends year living as gay.

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From CNN:
Washington (CNN) - Timothy Kurek’s motivation to spend a year pretending to be gay can be boiled down to a simple conviction: it takes drastic change to alter deeply held religious beliefs.

The experiment began after a lesbian friend opened up to Kurek about being excommunicated by her family. All Kurek, an avowed evangelical Christian, could think about, he says, “was trying to convert her.”

He was quickly disgusted by his own feelings, more pious than humane.

In fact, Kurek was so disgusted by his response to his friend that he decided to do something drastic. Living in Nashville, Tennessee, he would pretend to be gay for a year. The experiment began on the first day of 2009; Kurek came out to his family, got a job as a barista at a gay café and enlisted the help of a friend to act as his boyfriend in public.

The experience – which stopped short of Kurek getting physically intimate with other men - is documented in Kurek’s recent book “The Cross in the Closet,” which has received international attention, landed him on ABC’s "The View" and elicited some biting criticism.

The book is the latest entry on a growing list of experiential tomes revolving around religion. They include Rachel Held Evans’ recent “A Year of Biblical Womanhood,” in which the author follows the Bible’s instructions on women’s behavior and Ed Dobson’s “The Year of Living Like Jesus,” which had the author “eat as Jesus ate. Pray as Jesus prayed. Observe the Sabbath as Jesus observed.”

For Kurek, his year as a gay man radically changed his view of faith and religion, while also teaching him “what it meant to me a second class citizen in this country.”

A yearlong lie

For years, Kurek says, the only life he had was “his church life.” Being an evangelical Christian was his identity.

He was home-schooled until seventh grade, almost all of his friends were from church and his social life was a nightly string of faith-based events, from church sports to a Christian Cub Scout troop. “It was the only thing I was used to doing,” said Kurek, who attended Liberty University, the largest evangelical university in the world, before dropping out after freshman year.

Kurek grew up in an “independent Baptist church.” “We were evangelical,” he said, “but we were more conservative than evangelical, too.”

His churchy lifestyle led to some deeply held views about homosexuality. Most evangelical churches condemn homosexuality as sinful. Many rail against certain gay rights, like gay marriage.



“I had been taught to be wary of gays,” Kurek writes of his beliefs pre-experiment. “They were all HIV positive, perverts and liberal pedophiles.”

Those views began to be challenged in 2004, when he first encountered Soulforce, a lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender civil rights group, on Liberty’s campus. The group made the school an important stop on its cross-country tour targeting colleges that they alleged treated LGBT people unfairly.

Kurek was struck by what he had in common with the protesters at Liberty. “It really impressed me that people who were coming to push their agenda were able to do it and be so nice about it,” he said.

His doubt about Christianity’s condemnation of homosexuality, Kurek writes, was “perfected” in 2008, when a close friend recounted the story of coming out to her family and being disowned.

“I betrayed her, then,” writes Kurek. “It was a subtle betrayal, but a cruel one: I was silent.”

His recognition of that betrayal, he writes, led him to believe that “I needed to come out of the closet as a gay man.”

“I believe in total immersion,” Kurek says in an interview. “If you are going to walk in other people’s shoes, then you are going to need to walk in your shoes.”

To ensure the purity of his project, Kurek says, he had to lie to his deeply religious family about being gay, something that troubled him throughout the year.

“I felt like they loved me but they didn’t know how to deal with me,” he says. “They didn’t understand how to handle having a gay brother or sibling.”

In the book, Kurek recounts learning that his mother wrote in her journal that she would rather have been diagnosed with cancer than have a gay son. That experience and others left Kurek feeling outcast by people he loved, confused about his new life and conflicted about past religious beliefs.

Kurek was living a lie. And even though he was conflicted by his family’s reaction to his new lifestyle, he was longing to be honest with them.

The response

It’s no surprise that the “The Cross in the Closet,” has spurred strong reaction, especially from the LGBT community.

“I feel for the gay community of Nashville, and for every person who trusted Kurek enough to flirt with him, hang out with him, and confide in him about their lives,” wrote Amy Lieberman on the blog Feministing. “If I were in that community, I would feel so betrayed right now.”

In a Huffington Post blog post titled “Pretending To Be Gay Isn’t The Answer,” Emily Timbol, a religion blogger, expressed a similar opinion: “What's sad is that every interaction Timothy had during his year pretending was fake.”



“He was welcomed under false pretenses, acting like someone who understood the struggle that his LGBT friends faced,” she wrote. “He did not.”

But Kurek says that that was not his aim. “This isn't a book about being gay, I could not write that book, I am not qualified,” he writes. “What this is about is the label of gay and how that label affected me personally.”

Throughout the book, Kurek emphasizes that distinction. While much of “The Cross in the Closet” is about the struggle to understand the gay community, which he tries to address by enlisting a friend to act as his boyfriend, much of it addresses how his former church’s community – and family – reacted to his new lifestyle.

“I am actually not friends or in contact at all with 99.99% of the people that I grew up with or the churches that I grew up with,” Kurek says.

Kurek says he isn’t opposed to interacting with people from his "former" life. When he has run into members of his old church, he said he generally has quick, cordial conversations and moves on.

But some of the new distance is by choice. When Kurek’s mother told a friend in her church that her son was gay, the person said Kurek’s sexuality could jeopardize his mother's standing in the church.

The evangelical community has remained fairly mum throughout much of the reaction; most responses have come from Christians who are in some way connected to the LGBT community.

The change

Though Kurek goes to church less now, primarily because he has yet to find one that feels like “home,” he says he feels more religious “in the biblical definition of religion.” He still considers himself a Christian, although no longer evangelical, and says he is interested in attending the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America in the future.

Kurek quotes James 1:27 from the New Testament: “Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.”

There’s no mention of organized religion in passages like that, and Kurek says it’s the institutions of religion that worry him most today. He talks about his once robust church life as a distant memory.

Living as a gay man jaded him to religion, he says, though he has not surrendered all of his former beliefs. Yes, Kurek says, he is struggling with certain points of his theology, but he has been looking for the right church. “I am trying to figure out what place in the body of Christ I fit in,” he said.

As for his original goal, to radically change who he was, Kurek says mission accomplished. He says he has conquered his prejudices of the LGBT community and is happy with the person he has become.

“If anybody had told me back then who I would be or what I would believe now,” Kurek said, “I would have thought they were completely insane.”

For example, Kurek now thinks homosexuality is completely acceptable.

His family is happy to know that he is not gay, says Kurek. He has a new set of friends. And he lives in Portland, Oregon, where he moved shortly after finishing his experimental year.

The author plans to donate part of the proceeds from his book to help LGBT homeless youth who have been rejected by their families.

He is now at work on a book proposal for a follow-up to “The Cross in the Closet.” The book will be about the years after his experiment, transitioning back to honest living while continuing to engage the LGBT community.

“I want to tell more stories,” he says “and humanize the people who Christians always want to look at as labels.”
 

loveme1

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His conclusion comes through deceiving people......

He had a fake boyfriend.

He lied to people to play out something that did not need playing out.
 
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Even if you just pretend to be gay, you will make gay guys lust after you, which is a sin. It doesn't matter if choose to be a gay or just pretend to be one, in both cases you can't really be a christian too. Homosexuality is still a sin.
 
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His conclusion comes through deceiving people......

He had a fake boyfriend.

He lied to people to play out something that did not need playing out.
I too question doing it for a whole year. I think he could have gained everything he needed to learn by doing it just for a month. And it would not have hurt as many people.

But the lessons learned are good ones, I think. I'm glad he still has faith in God, despite his other changes.
 
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Even if you just pretend to be gay, you will make gay guys lust after you, which is a sin. It doesn't matter if choose to be a gay or just pretend to be one, in both cases you can't really be a christian too. Homosexuality is still a sin.
Hmmm.

Can you be a liar and also a Christian?

Can you covet something and also be a Christian?

Can you be fat and also a Christian?

Where in the Bible does it say that you can't be a Christian if you sin?
 

vanillakay

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*shakes head*

Mybe it's just me but this guy does not seem very christian like to me. Im not trying to judge at all, that's God's job. But i agree with LOVEME1. I don't see the point in him doing what he did. All he accomplished was partaking in a sinful life and putting himself in a situation he did not need to be in.
 

pickles

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The lesson one can hope this man learned is that Jesus came to all men.
That mercy and compassion is what we are called to in Jesus.
But we are called to deny our very selves to follow Jesus.
For this does not mean we are called to excuse a wrong, but to love every sinner as called to in Jesus and witness to the truth.
The hate so many say exists against gays does exist, but so does the same from many who are gay towards christians.
If there is a lesson learned here, it is that hateing destroys the witness, wether given or recieved.

I have a nephew who is gay, its a long story to tell of the damaged life that influenced his choice, and yes he did choose to be gay.
He was raped by a school teacher and then abused by others in the gay community before he was 15.
Then that same school displayed his so called coming out as a step towards diversity.
This same community has many filled with the same blind hate as those who hate in the name of the christian community.
His parents have been harrased and had their lives threatened by this same communtiy.
They have enduered years of horrible attacks for simply loving their son and picking up the pieces of what is left of their son after he has been abused, beaten, druged and used for their own propaganda promotions.
Many times they have rescued him from being dumped on the streets after another is bored, or beaten by the evil of some in the gay community.
These are not back street low lifes, but those that hold standing in this community, some published as outspoken and forward in their persuit of gay rights.
All we know is we are watching my nephew slowly die, and he has come close to death many times, only saved by the love of our family.
Yes he is trully loved by all of us, we only wish he could see how much, as his mind has been so corrupted by those who have used him, that he trusts no one.
But he always is welcome and loved by all of us, and witnessed to when he opens the door to us. :)
He knows we believe what he chooses sin, that we love and follow Jesus, and that we love him in the love of Jesus.
We are frustrated by all the media, playing the sad story of those who are persicuted for simply loving another of the same sex.
When the life we have seen of our family member, has been filled with abuse and hate recived from those who are gay.
He was married, but then abused and had to be rescued.
He is stalked as well by some, who always find a way to pull him back into the life style, when He wants to find healing from all of it.
For there are two sides to every thing known.

There are always those who hate, those who abuse, and those who use.
Wether in the name of christianity, or the gay community.
The only thing I hope comes from sharing this is?
Its not about who is a victem, but the truth we are called to in Jesus.
Satan fights for souls in any way possible, wether claiming something is good because it is love, when it is not God's love, or, seeking to destroy both life and soul through abuse and use.

In the end it all just comes down to the truth, what we are called to in Jesus.
By following Jesus in love, truth and obedience.
So all will have eternal life in Jesus Christ is Lord!

God bless
pickles

God bless
 

shrimp

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I can't say that what he did was right or that it was wrong. I can say that his experience can help lead others to Jesus. Granted, it may not be as strong as say, a man who was gay turning to Christ and realizing that what he did was a sin. But, maybe it can also be used by God as a wake up call.
God says that in order to be Christ-like we need to love. Love the sinner, not the sin. Love as you love yourself. I, also, struggle with this concept. I had been abused as a child, became a Christian when I was 9 yrs old, recommitted my life to God at age 14, But it was just days ago that I needed to love Child Molesters but still hate what they do, their sin.
All sinners should be loved, but the sin should not. God is not a respecter of persons.Jews are his chosen people, but it's not just the Jews who can recieve forgiveness. Shouldn't we be more like Him? He made salvation and love available to ALL. What is SO hard about doing the same for thieves or homosexuals or murderers?