supreme court to take on gay marriage

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Nautilus

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Supreme Court to take up same-sex marriage

Hopefully they decide to move this country in the right direction because while the bible is against gays, this country isnt governed by the bible no matter how much some want it to be.
 
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I suspect the Supreme Court will side with the rebellion against God.
 
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Supreme Court to take up same-sex marriage

Hopefully they decide to move this country in the right direction because while the bible is against gays, this country isnt governed by the bible no matter how much some want it to be.
America was built on Godly standards, hence it's prosperity .. so I pray that your country will move to the right direction.
 

Nautilus

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America was built on Godly standards, hence it's prosperity .. so I pray that your country will move to the right direction.
if you mean backwards, then that would be the wrong direction
 

Nautilus

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You're crazy if you think this is moving in the right direction. The End.

So denying groups of people equal rights is someone the right direction? Seems like a train of though that would have fit in really well among white southerners in the 50s and 60s. But perhaps you're right. maybe artificially creating a second-class group of citizens who aren't allowed the same rights other citizens have access to is the way to go. I mean we would never as a secular nation want to allow laws that might offend someone's religion....
 
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This is discussed in the 'Prayer Request Forum' already.
 
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Supreme Court to take up same-sex marriage

Hopefully they decide to move this country in the right direction because while the bible is against gays, this country isn't governed by the bible no matter how much some want it to be.
The god of this age is satan, he is the father of lies, and sadly being a follower of Christ, obeying from your heart, and standing strong against the lies coming from main stream Christianity, is wrong, you are evil and cannot judge!

You tell a homosexual they must repent, stop thier sins, you are preaching hate. The world and most churches today have fallen into the pit of lies, where you can come into the kingdom of God still defiled and a practicing homosexual, adulterer, porn addict, fornicator, drunkard, etc,,, and all is well,

So the Church today has failed miserable to do what is was called to do before the so called reformation came about and mixed truth with error, leaving the professing masses in bondage to sin, and weak and unable to discern thier way out of a paper bag!

I blame the churches for this gay marriage agenda, they will accept all forms of immorality as long as you just believe in Jesus, where real repentance and faith is thrown out the window!

And as we get closer to the return of Christ, there is no urgency for any to repent and stop sinning against a Holy God, who is waiting for the masses to repent on the scale of Nineveh!

IF YOU ARE TRULY SAVED, you have been:
"Called out of darkness into His marvelous light!" 1Pet2:9
"Turned from darkness to light, from the power of satan to God!" Acts24:18
"Delivered from the power of darkness & translated into the kingdom of His love!" Col1:13
"Crucified with Christ & made dead to sin." Rom6:6-7
"Turned into a New Creation in Christ!" 2Cor13:5
"Escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust." 2Pet1:4
So please stop kidding yourselves about entering the Kingdom. If you are still in bondage to sin, lust or greed, you are NOT on the road to heaven. Your 'faith' has been hijacked by the false teachers. The deceiving spirits have spoken lies into your ears, you believed them and have forfeited your inheritance through the deceitfulness of sin. (Heb3:11-14) How could this possibly happen, you ask? False doctrine is the key. www.standingthegap.org


 

starfield

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Should one, in an effort to promote equal rights, condone sin?
Marriage is a union between man and woman. Same sex marriage violates natural law.
 

lil_christian

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So denying groups of people equal rights is someone the right direction? Seems like a train of though that would have fit in really well among white southerners in the 50s and 60s. But perhaps you're right. maybe artificially creating a second-class group of citizens who aren't allowed the same rights other citizens have access to is the way to go. I mean we would never as a secular nation want to allow laws that might offend someone's religion....
You're soo right, I think I'll change my political opinion. :rolleyes:









Said no one. EVER!!
 
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I suspect the Supreme Court will side with the rebellion against God.
And this would be a problem if only the US didn't have that pesky First Amendment.
 

Nautilus

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Should one, in an effort to promote equal rights, condone sin?
Marriage is a union between man and woman. Same sex marriage violates natural law.
I have no problem with it considering we do not live in a theocracy
 
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I have no problem with it considering we do not live in a theocracy
In a way we do...

Exodus 15:18
The LORD will reign for ever and ever.

(and that's ONE of the quotes about the Lord being KING)
 

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18 since many boast according to human standards, I will also boast. 19 For you gladly put up with fools, being wise yourselves! 20 For you put up with it when someone makes slaves of you, or preys upon you, or takes advantage of you, or puts on airs, or gives you a slap in the face. 21 To my shame, I must say, we were too weak for that !2 Corinthians 11:18-21
 

starfield

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I have no problem with it considering we do not live in a theocracy
Does the fact that we are not under theocracy mean one should legalize absurd things?
We've got use common sense and natural law too to make laws that reflect basic morality.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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Does the fact that we are not under theocracy mean one should legalize absurd things?
One person's "absurdity" is another person's normal. The fact that we are not under theocracy means we should legalize all things that enable equal rights, regardless of personal biases some religions may have against those things.

Gay marriage is far less absurd than sending young men and women to the middle east to get shot at, to bomb the crap out of villages, and then take away their benefits when they get back. And yet that is exactly what most of the Republicans and a handful of the Democrats in congress have voted for.

Gay marriage isn't as absurd as saying that we should balance the budget not by raising taxes on the wealthiest 2% but by cutting programs that educate, assist the vulnerable, and create jobs for the other 98%.

And excuse me, but gay marriage isn't anywhere as near as absurd as throwing a petition on the internet to have your state secede from the U.S. And yet that's perfectly legal.

Yes, not being a theocracy protects us against laws favoring any religion. It does not protect us from absurdity. If it did, we would have had to repeal that amendment decades ago.

We've got use common sense and natural law too to make laws that reflect basic morality.
I agree.

Creating a second class of citizens who are not entitled to the same rights as others seems completely against common sense, and certainly does not reflect basic morality.

And your plea for "natural law" isn't going to help you either, since homosexuality is found in most animal species.
 
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djness

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One person's "absurdity" is another person's normal. The fact that we are not under theocracy means we should legalize all things that enable equal rights, regardless of personal biases some religions may have against those things.

Gay marriage is far less absurd than sending young men and women to the middle east to get shot at, to bomb the crap out of villages, and then take away their benefits when they get back. And yet that is exactly what most of the Republicans and a handful of the Democrats in congress have voted for.

Gay marriage isn't as absurd as saying that we should balance the budget not by raising taxes on the wealthiest 2% but by cutting programs that educate, assist the vulnerable, and create jobs for the other 98%.

And excuse me, but gay marriage isn't anywhere as near as absurd as throwing a petition on the internet to have your state secede from the U.S. And yet that's perfectly legal.

Yes, not being a theocracy protects us against laws favoring any religion. It does not protect us from absurdity. If it did, we would have had to repeal that amendment decades ago.


I agree.

Creating a second class of citizens who are not entitled to the same rights as others seems completely against common sense, and certainly does not reflect basic morality.

And your plea for "natural law" isn't going to help you either, since homosexuality is found in most animal species.
You had me right here

The fact that we are not under theocracy means we should legalize all things that enable equal rights, regardless of personal biases some religions may have against those things.
So basically what am seeing here on cc is several people who have their profile set to Spiritual Status :Christian , and despite the bible in numerous verses denouncing homosexuality, or in fact many sins , them saying that since our country isn't christian that we should be perfectly fine with and not set these people up as ''second class citizens''. I'm pretty sure the bible says if you promote sin you shouldn't identify with Christ as there is a delusions and consequences that go along with that. Run on sentence.

Not accepting sin doesn't make these folks second class citizens...they haven't been second class citizens. It's not the same as saying someone cannot drink out of a fountain based on color. No , it really isn't. Being a different color isn't a sin...oh wait..not a christian nation.

I wonder what some of you would say if you lived in a nation were killing homosexuals was actually the law, would you use the same, ''Well we are not a theocracy'' as to defend that as
one person's "absurdity" is another person's normal.
 
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Trilogic

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Rule against it? Thats what I thought theyd do with Obama Care, so I aint holding my breath...look, if not this time. It will be voted in one day.
 
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TheGrungeDiva

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I'm pretty sure the bible says if you promote sin you shouldn't identify with Christ
How does allowing gays to marry "promote sin"?

Unless you also hold that legalizing alcohol and cigarettes "promotes sin"? If you think these things should also be illegal (and that New York City is correct in limiting sugary drinks, candy bars, and other diabetic-creating foods), then at least you're being consistent. If you agree with the majority of the nation that prohibition just doesn't work, then gay marriage should not be seen as any more sinful than any other of the thousands of activities that are legal in this country and at least as sinful.

Not accepting sin doesn't make these folks second class citizens
Legalizing gay marriage is not "accepting sin" any more than allowing a lottery is "accepting gambling." Gambling is still a sin. I don't see very many Christians complaining about the state-run lotteries, and yet gambling is as denounced in Scripture as much as homosexuality.

In fact, you know what one of the worst sins is? Denying Jesus. Yup. I think most people here would say if you aren't Christian, you're pretty much screwed, even if you're a heterosexual pro-life upstanding citizen. How is allowing such people to exist, let alone vote, run for office, and heavens, maybe even *gasp* teach in public school ... how is THAT legal?!?!?!?

Because we believe in FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

We do not make laws based on what is sin or not sin. If we did, there are a lot of things going on right now, like the war, just to name one, that would be WAY higher on God's list of "what the heck are you people doing" than allowing two non-Christian people who happen to like each other even though they're the same gender to share the same legal rights as any non-Christian heterosexual couple.
 

pickles

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The world will do what it will, simply because it rejects Jesus.
But as christians, we need to remain faithful in what we do, to witness to the truth in Jesus Christ is Lord.
I remember the day when abortion was approved, as it was all about helping the poor teenage girl who had been victimized.
Never about birth controll, and only for those desparately in need.
Saddly today, many girls see abortion as an approved form of birth controll, simply getting rid of tissue growth.
Its heartbreaking to see how what was, is now a greater wrong aproved by the world.
Now today, Im watching the news, it is filled with the images of same sex marraiges, all about how these poor ones have finnally been allowed to live as others do.
As I watch I wonder how many? have any idea of the eternal loss they may face, or the witness of aproval given to another, who is trying to figure out what the truth is.
So many might say to disaprove is to judge, when the truth is, its all about the love of Jesus, seeing the danger to the soul by such actions
I know many will say how can this be wrong, when God is love? Answer: God's love is not the worlds love, His loveis perfect and eternal.
Why cant they have the same rights as any other in the world?
The thing is? they can have the rights of any in the world. But this is not about the world.
What so many fail to see is that this is not about what the world appoves or disaproves.
But about the gift of eternal life in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
The gift of eternal life requires that one not only sets aside what the world is and offers, but their own flesh as well.
In faith, as christains, we are called to do what we can to reject the things that can steal eternal life from any person.
In hope, that by scripturally, witnessing in truth to such things as wrong.
That one who is considering the act, will ask why and seek the truth in Jesus.
In love, witnessing and speaking always to the truth, eternal life and love all are called to in Jesus.
Always speaking against the things approved by the world, witnessing to the truth of the cost to one's eternal life.
You see, for the one in Jesus, it has never been about hating or judging, it is compleatly about the love of Jesus, the sorrow of knowing the truth and pleading for the sake of ones eternal life.
Wanting only to see as many that will be called and recieve Jesus, that they will, and know the truth, eternal life and perfect love that awaits them in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.

I pray that their eyes and ears may be opened, so that as many that are called, will be saved, in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
That this nation, will look to God, in Jesus Christ is Lord.

And just wanted to make a note here: just as we are called to witness to these sins, we are called to witness to any sin that puts one's eternal life at risk.

God bless
pickles