Film Portraying Jesus as Product of Rape!!

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Katy-follower

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Katy-follower said:
"Hollywood is set once again to further blaspheme Christianity and the Lord Jesus Christ as director Paul Verhoeven is set to produce a film that portrays Jesus Christ not as the Son of God but as a moral politician who was the product of Mary being raped by a Roman soldier"

"...yet another attempt by pop culture to attack Christianity and further the spirit of Antichrist into society"

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Hollywood Blasphemy: Film Portraying Jesus as Product of Rape Set for Production | Beginning And End
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Katy...that comes from the Talmud.
they have written it down; they teach it and (apparently) believe it.
they've been teaching it for nearly 2000 years.
 
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Nautilus

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man never been a huge verhoeven fan anyways. plus i cant see the movie doing well regardless.
 
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Jesus in the Talmud
Peter Schäfer

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"The most explicit Jesus passages in the Bavli (Babylonian Talmud) date back, at the earliest, to the late-200/early-300 A. D. (p. 8). Schaeffer includes a helpful tabular Appendix (pp. 132-144) that details the various editions of the Bavli, listing the relevant verses and their comparative translations. [As a non-Jew, I found it a rewarding experience to read the printed and online Talmud myself. Particularly instructive verses deal with Jesus the Bastard Son (Sanhedrin 67a, Shabbat 104b), His execution (Sanhedrin 43a), and Him burning in hell in hot excrement (Gittin 57a). One useful online source, though in denial about Him in the Talmud, is the English Soncino Babylonian Talmud, located at halakhahdotcom.]

Discrepancies between Bavli and the New Testament accounts have been used to argue that there is no Talmudic reference to Jesus at all. Instead, such discrepancies can be accounted for by 1) The rabbis' superficial knowledge of Christianity reflected by frequent elementary blunders, 2) Accounts written in code so as to afford plausible denial in case of Christian hostility, and/or 3) A creative mockery of Christian doctrines. Schafer emphasizes the latter.

Except for not mentioning the name of the Child, the Bavli essentially repeats anti-Christian Celsus' tale of Jesus being the product of an adulterous affair involving the soldier Panthera/Pandera, as also mentioned by several rabbinical sources. (pp. 18-20). Contrary to objections, the name Panthera is not that common, and the story is distinctive and stable enough to refer unambiguously to Jesus. (e. g., p. 20, 141; see also p. 98). The account is a creative mockery of the Virgin Birth of Christ and His claim to be of Messianic Davidic lineage."
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^ UNPARDONABLE SIN.
 
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Interesting.
Will read about it.

Thankyou for the information.

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1Christianwarrior316

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zone said:


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Jesus in the Talmud
Peter Schäfer

review
"The most explicit Jesus passages in the Bavli (Babylonian Talmud) date back, at the earliest, to the late-200/early-300 A. D. (p. 8). Schaeffer includes a helpful tabular Appendix (pp. 132-144) that details the various editions of the Bavli, listing the relevant verses and their comparative translations. [As a non-Jew, I found it a rewarding experience to read the printed and online Talmud myself. Particularly instructive verses deal with Jesus the Bastard Son (Sanhedrin 67a, Shabbat 104b), His execution (Sanhedrin 43a), and Him burning in hell in hot excrement (Gittin 57a). One useful online source, though in denial about Him in the Talmud, is the English Soncino Babylonian Talmud, located at halakhahdotcom.]

Discrepancies between Bavli and the New Testament accounts have been used to argue that there is no Talmudic reference to Jesus at all. Instead, such discrepancies can be accounted for by 1) The rabbis' superficial knowledge of Christianity reflected by frequent elementary blunders, 2) Accounts written in code so as to afford plausible denial in case of Christian hostility, and/or 3) A creative mockery of Christian doctrines. Schafer emphasizes the latter.

Except for not mentioning the name of the Child, the Bavli essentially repeats anti-Christian Celsus' tale of Jesus being the product of an adulterous affair involving the soldier Panthera/Pandera, as also mentioned by several rabbinical sources. (pp. 18-20). Contrary to objections, the name Panthera is not that common, and the story is distinctive and stable enough to refer unambiguously to Jesus. (e. g., p. 20, 141; see also p. 98). The account is a creative mockery of the Virgin Birth of Christ and His claim to be of Messianic Davidic lineage."
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^ UNPARDONABLE SIN.
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I disagree zone that this is an unpardonable sin. Jesus said, "whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him."
Then he reveal to us what the unpardonable sin is when He further says, "but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

If speaking against the Holy Ghost can not be forgiven in this world neither in the world to come it would therefore have to be unpardonable.

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
 
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1Christianwarrior316 said:
I disagree zone that this is an unpardonable sin. Jesus said, "whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him."
Then he reveal to us what the unpardonable sin is when He further says, "but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

If speaking against the Holy Ghost can not be forgiven in this world neither in the world to come it would therefore have to be unpardonable.

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
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It's something further in,they make the claim that Jesus works were of the devil,from sorcery etc.
 
1Christianwarrior316

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SarahM777 said:
It's something further in,they make the claim that Jesus works were of the devil,from sorcery etc.
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Thank you SarahM777 for that information.;)

I apologize to you zone. I only read what you posted and drew my conclusion from what was posted. My error.:eek:

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
 
zone

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1Christianwarrior316 said:
Thank you SarahM777 for that information.;)

I apologize to you zone. I only read what you posted and drew my conclusion from what was posted. My error.:eek:

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316
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n.p., CW.
it's hard to see, but it's the last two legible words in the clipping:



practiced sorcery


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googled a bit to read more about it and found some different versions displayed.
One where Mary was shown to be this sorceress wife and the sorcerer did blackmagic.
They said she had an affair and that her name was referred to as hairdresser which then sounded like mary magdalene in the language.Mother and wife?
Someone said Jesus step Father was Joseph and not a black magician and things did not add up with evidence shown.

Muslims beleive Judas was the one who was crucified in his place because they looked alike and was identity theft going on because of the betrayal of the real jesus.
What I read about it they say Jesus knew he would be betrayed by judas so he prayed day and night to be saved and God saved him and crusified judas instead.
They also beleive jesus is holy prophet but not son of God.
They do beleive in old testament aswell as Holy Quran.


Another version I read was John was jesus real name.

One version was like there should be two jesus because of the one that looked like him was jealous of him.

Another version I heard was Jesus died and came back to life.:)


He was betrayed by his men for his time.

They do what i heard have the holy old scriptures in original format stored still and some have apparently been hidden.
There are some sides that have never been seen by anyone or even made known to people but kept and locked and hidden.Like a few pages that were never published but kept.
Then there are the other old scriptures that they do show to more of the public.

Im not a muslim or a jew but have been reading about it a bit, what they believe.
Shall read more about it.
I am a christian human.
 
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