Anniversary of the death of Rachel Corrie

[Drett]

Corrie was killed after a three-hour confrontation in March 16th 2005 between two bulldozers and eight ISM activists.Wearing a bright orange fluorescent jacket and, until shortly before her death, using a megaphone, she was killed while standing in the path of a bulldozer that she believed was about to demolish the house of local pharmacist Samir Nasralla's family whom she had befriended.She was run over twice by the bulldozer resulting in a fractured skull, shattered ribs and punctured lungs.

In August 2012, an Israeli court rejected their suit and upheld the results of Israel's 2003 military investigation, ruling that the Israeli government was not responsible for Corrie's death. The ruling, the Israeli justice system, and the investigation it exonerated have been criticized.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/witness-to-rachel-corries-death-responds-to-israeli-court-ruling-absolving-soldier/

While Israel are allowed to act with being held to account. Human rights violations will continue,

 

[tribesman]

Expect little or no understanding from the "Israel first" and "christian zio's" crowd at this board. They believe things like that is "prophecy being fulfilled" and will support "Israel" whatever she does.

 

[jimmydiggs]

Corrie was killed after a three-hour confrontation in March 16th 2005 between two bulldozers and eight ISM activists.Wearing a bright orange fluorescent jacket and, until shortly before her death, using a megaphone, she was killed while standing in the path of a bulldozer that she believed was about to demolish the house of local pharmacist Samir Nasralla's family whom she had befriended.She was run over twice by the bulldozer resulting in a fractured skull, shattered ribs and punctured lungs.

In August 2012, an Israeli court rejected their suitand upheld the results of Israel's 2003 military investigation, ruling that the Israeli government was not responsible for Corrie's death. The ruling, the Israeli justice system, and the investigation it exonerated have been criticized.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/witness-to-rachel-corries-death-responds-to-israeli-court-ruling-absolving-soldier/

While Israel are allowed to act with being held to account. Human rights violations will continue,

Humans have no rights, other than that, good post.


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[tribesman]

Humans have no rights, other than that, good post.

Oh, but they do have one right: the lake of fire.

 

[BarlyGurl]

america is a great country but I don't approve of an assortment of government actions...
I don't think Israel is any different in that respect.

I am not sure what an Israel first Christian Zio is tho

 

[Theophane]

What did Rachel give her life for, exactly?

I don't know whether to call her a suicidal fool or a martyr.

 

[Drett]

What did Rachel give her life for, exactly?

I don't know whether to call her a suicidal fool or a martyr.

She stood up against oppression. I don't think she was a fool just naive, she just under estimate the moral character of the people she was protesting against. She did not expect to be run over by a bulldozer when she was wearing a bright vest and yelling into a megaphone. Israel are untouchable it would seem. They can do as they wish.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Politics may be playing a part here because she was an american. The Isreali government may not want to admit that their military intentionally killed her because she is an american. It could harm US-Isreal relations and the US is Isreal's biggest ally. Therefore it is better for the Isreal government to declare it an accident.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Here death was murder but she really should have known better than to stand in the way of the Isreali army (the bulldozers were armored bulldozers manned by isreali soldiers). The isreali's don't mess around when it comes to getting things done. In the US they would have waited for as long as it took for the protestors to give in, or maybe use some tear gas and arrest them, but the isreali's don't mess around. That is apparent in their military history. If someone tries to get in their way they take them out and they don't waste any time either.

 

[Drett]

Here death was murder but she really should have known better than to stand in the way of the Isreali army (the bulldozers were armored bulldozers manned by isreali soldiers). The isreali's don't mess around when it comes to getting things done. In the US they would have waited for as long as it took for the protestors to give in, or maybe use some tear gas and arrest them, but the isreali's don't mess around. That is apparent in their military history. If someone tries to get in their way they take them out and they don't waste any time either.

This was the illegal demolition of Palestinian houses, not a war offensive. A court is there to adminster justice and not be concerned of the ramification to Israel / US relations.

In the end if you do not discipline a child then they may become spoilt. They feel everything revolves around them. They may turn more and more anti social even become psychopathic. Israel needs to be disciplined and fast.

 

[zeroturbulence]

This was the illegal demolition of Palestinian houses, not a war offensive. A court is there to adminster justice and not be concerned of the ramification to Israel / US relations.

In the end if you do not discipline a child then they may become spoilt. They feel everything revolves around them. They may turn more and more anti social even become psychopathic. Israel needs to be disciplined and fast.

Even though it wasn't a military action it was still an armored isreali bulldozer and an american involved. The only one with the right to discipline Isreal is God.

 

[Drett]

Even though it wasn't a military action it was still an armored isreali bulldozer and an american involved. The only one with the right to discipline Isreal is God.

Sorry ? I find your comment a bit dangerous. God's punishes through his creation. God disciplined Israel by using the Romans to throw them out of the chosen land and destroy the temple in 70 AD. That is the punishment for rejecting Jesus who was their last chance.

You assume the people who occupy Israel are those chosen.
After the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD, the nation of Israel, after the flesh, was scattered throughout the earth, and lost all tribal relations. This scattering was made immutable due to the fact that all tribal genealogical records were destroyed with the Temple in A.D. 70. The simple fact is that there is no existing Jewish race. Not only the Bible confirms this (as already revealed), but the writings of worldly authorities, including Jewish resources as well. Consider the following quotations:

The Encyclopedia Brittanica (1973): "The Jews As A Race: The findings of physical anthropology show that, contrary to the popular view, there is no Jewish race. Anthropocentric measurements of Jewish groups in many parts of the world indicate that they differ greatly from one another with respect to all the important physical characteristics" (vol. 12, page 1054).

God effective wiped the chosen people from the face of the Earth. So time to discipline the spoilt child that calls itself Israel is what is needed now.

 

[Drett]

"Many Christians do not know that the vast majority of so-called Jews in the world today are the Ashkenazim Jews, while the remainder of them are the Sephardim Jews. The Ashkenazim Jews have as their background not the nation of Israel but a country called Khazaria, which country at one time was the largest country in Europe. The settlers of Khazaria were Turks and Huns. In A.D. 740 King Bulan of Khazaria decided to adopt the Judaistic religion for his country. A number of Jews were already living there. So he converted to Judaism, along with all his officials, and whole nation ended up being known as a nation of Jews. In 970, Russia came in and dominated the situation, and the Khazars were scattered, many of them going down into Poland and Lithuania. Where at the dawn of our modern civilization the largest concentration of Jews were found. Today, the largest percentage of so-called Jews in the world have as their background this group of people"
(This information is fully documented in detail in John Bray's book, Israel in Bible Prophecy).


Today, being a Jew simply means that one is of the Judaistic religion or a convert to it, or else in a "brotherhood" of those who are. Therefore, being a Jew has nothing to do with race. We are familiar with a number of notable figures, such as Sammy Davis, Jr., Elizabeth Taylor, Madonna, and Tom Arnold, in fact, who became Jews by conversion to the religion of Judaism.


Therefore, we can clearly and confidently assert that there is no such thing as a Jewish race, nor ever can there be. Since the fall of Jerusalem, and the scattering of the nation of Israel in the first century, the nation calling itself Israel has consisted of a collection of people from nearly every nation in the world, with no relation to the twelve tribes of the historical nation known as Israel. Any attempts to state that there is, or will ever again be, a race of Israelites are proven to be futile and of no force. There is no Jewish race.

 

[tribesman]

Even though it wasn't a military action it was still an armored isreali bulldozer and an american involved. The only one with the right to discipline Isreal is God.

What is happening in that country has nothing to do with prophecies being fulfilled. It is no different from any political conflict.

 

[zone]

Here death was murder but.........

but what?
it was murder.

 

[JimJimmers]

Expect little or no understanding from the "Israel first" and "christian zio's" crowd at this board. They believe things like that is "prophecy being fulfilled" and will support "Israel" whatever she does.

Hmmm...they haven't shown up. Maybe you were exaggerating?

 

[zeroturbulence]

but what?
it was murder.

That's what I said, but she knew the risks of standing in front of a live bulldozer. By the way I looked up the details and she wasn't actually run over. She was standing on a mound of dirt and the bulldozer decided to push the mound of dirt and she lost her balance and fell while the bulldozer continued to push the mound, then it stopped, backed up for a minute then pushed the mound again. At no time was she actually under the bulldozer. She was alive when they rushed her to the hospital.

 

[zeroturbulence]

What is happening in that country has nothing to do with prophecies being fulfilled. It is no different from any political conflict.

I was talking strictly politics, not prophecy. That last sentence was in reply to the guy who said Isreal needs to be disciplined.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Sorry ? I find your comment a bit dangerous. God's punishes through his creation. God disciplined Israel by using the Romans to throw them out of the chosen land and destroy the temple in 70 AD. That is the punishment for rejecting Jesus who was their last chance.

You assume the people who occupy Israel are those chosen.
After the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD, the nation of Israel, after the flesh, was scattered throughout the earth, and lost all tribal relations. This scattering was made immutable due to the fact that all tribal genealogical records were destroyed with the Temple in A.D. 70. The simple fact is that there is no existing Jewish race. Not only the Bible confirms this (as already revealed), but the writings of worldly authorities, including Jewish resources as well. Consider the following quotations:

The Encyclopedia Brittanica (1973): "The Jews As A Race: The findings of physical anthropology show that, contrary to the popular view, there is no Jewish race. Anthropocentric measurements of Jewish groups in many parts of the world indicate that they differ greatly from one another with respect to all the important physical characteristics" (vol. 12, page 1054).

God effective wiped the chosen people from the face of the Earth. So time to discipline the spoilt child that calls itself Israel is what is needed now.

Wow you sure are reading a lot into what I wrote. I don't even know what you're talking about. I was just referring to political relations between the white house and the isreali government. Its no secret that they are political allies.

You folks seem to be putting some sort of prophetic/fanatical religious spin on what I said. I assure you it had nothing to do with any of that.

 

[Drett]

Wow you sure are reading a lot into what I wrote. I don't even know what you're talking about. I was just referring to political relations between the white house and the isreali government. Its no secret that they are political allies.

You folks seem to be putting some sort of prophetic/fanatical religious spin on what I said. I assure you it had nothing to do with any of that.

You said only God can discipline Israel. I disagreed and have shown you that Israel no longer exists. I don't think it was fanatical religious spin, I just thought you were wrong.