Teacher Fired For Giving a Student a Pocket-Sized Bible

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The students were standing in line and the teacher says to the last student that the "last shall be first, and the first shall be last."

A "ah-ha!" moment sounded off in the student's head. I've heard that before! The student inquired about the statement and wanted to know where it came from. The teacher said the Bible. The student said that he has never read the Bible before. So, the teacher pulled out his pocket-sized Bible and gave it him.

It is a beautiful story, really. But it ended in shame for the teacher. Well guess again! He's going after the school district for religious discrimination and rightfully so! Please pray that he gets his job back and that student finds God in the Bible that that teacher gave him.

Amen.

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The United States claims to be a Christian nation, but stories like this one prove to me that it isn't and never really was. That whole "separation of church and state" business is how it can make persecution of Christianity seem so legit. I'm not convinced there is any country on Earth that fears God, regardless of appearance.
 
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Theophane said:
The United States claims to be a Christian nation, but stories like this one prove to me that it isn't and never really was. That whole "separation of church and state" business is how it can make persecution of Christianity seem so legit. I'm not convinced there is any country on Earth that fears God, regardless of appearance.
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The United States does not claim to be a Christian nation and rightfully so, the US constitution makes it very clear that the government will make no law favouring any religion nor will it put in place religious tests to determine whether someone can run for congress.

I don't really have an opinion on this story in particular but you're misrepresenting history. The founding fathers fled from religious persecution like so many others in Europe. The core point among various in America was freedom of religion, not forced into any particular one. Plenty of countries have an official religion and in previous history and even current day enforce this with punishment of death.
 
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True Danny, but the problem is, atheism can be just as much a religion as anything else.
 
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A secular state is not an atheism endorsing state, unless you believe omitting religious/personal beliefs and practices is doing that. Even if it is (on some level), omission of personal beliefs and practices from state activities is the best balance.

With regards to the topic, given the article I was linked to read from, putting that balance into practice can reach even the trivial matters.
 
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DannyC said:
By definition alone it cannot be so.
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I strongly beg to differ. Atheists will claim that atheism is a disbelief in any deity but that is not all they believe. Atheism is a form of religon complete with it's own dogma. They even look to some men like Richard Dawkins as their messiah and preists and universities as their shrines. They even have their own fundamentalist militant extremists.

Agnostics are clearly omitted from this group. they simply admit they do not know if there is a god. Atheists make a leap of faith and claim there is no god, no creator and no first cause.

The dictionary defines the word "atheism" to be:

1.the doctrine or belief that there is no God.

2.disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
 
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I strongly beg to differ. Atheists will claim that atheism is a disbelief in any deity but that is not all they believe. Atheism is a form of religon complete with it's own dogma. They even look to some men like Richard Dawkins as their messiah and preists and universities as their shrines. They even have their own fundamentalist militant extremists.

Agnostics are clearly omitted from this group. they simply admit they do not know if there is a god. Atheists make a leap of faith and claim there is no god, no creator and no first cause.

The dictionary defines the word "atheism" to be:

1.the doctrine or belief that there is no God.

2.disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
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I already replied to your weak and disrespectful comparison of an atheist making multiple accounts and extremist muslims flying planes into the twin towers.

Your flimsy use of words and definitions either shows a lack of knowledge or grasping at straws. Atheists don't believe Dawkins is a messiah, they do not have 'shrines' or 'priests' every word you have taken from religious belief. Atheist has no dogma, it cannot have a dogma a dogma requires an authority to give it, atheism in its definition from the Oxford English dictionary doesn't claim to have an authority like a religion does.


Atheists rarely say they there is no God, most say they don't believe in a God, you rarely find any atheist that claims there is no God. You're playing a straw man across multiple threads and I have already dealt with these claims that atheism is a religion. This is the definition of a religion. [TABLE="class: vk_txt ts"]
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  1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods.
  2. Details of belief as taught or discussed.

The first one automatically removes atheism from this grouping and the second claims belief, atheism is not a belief system it is a lack of belief. You can play semantics, but if you really believe a semantics style argument proves anything then you have lost before the race even started. Even if I granted you that, your claims are not true.
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it is ironic how so many atheists say children should be allowed to make up their own minds about religion...but then when a child wants to know more about christianity...not allowed...
 
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RachelBibleStudent said:
it is ironic how so many atheists say children should be allowed to make up their own minds about religion...but then when a child wants to know more about christianity...not allowed...
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great point!
 
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Radius said:
The students were standing in line and the teacher says to the last student that the "last shall be first, and the first shall be last."

A "ah-ha!" moment sounded off in the student's head. I've heard that before! The student inquired about the statement and wanted to know where it came from. The teacher said the Bible. The student said that he has never read the Bible before. So, the teacher pulled out his pocket-sized Bible and gave it him.

It is a beautiful story, really. But it ended in shame for the teacher. Well guess again! He's going after the school district for religious discrimination and rightfully so! Please pray that he gets his job back and that student finds God in the Bible that that teacher gave him.

Amen.

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I have some questions.

Was it a public school or christian school ?

Was this action against the teacher instigated by the principal or the boys parents ?
 
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Drett said:
I have some questions.

Was it a public school or christian school ?

Was this action against the teacher instigated by the principal or the boys parents ?
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I don't think that information was given.
 
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no this kind of stuff is caused by fear of lawsuits. in this country people sue each other in courts all the time. many schools and businesses are very concerned about getting sued and have to pay large amounts of money so they go way overboard to avoid lawsuits. this is why you hear these stories.
 
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They had no right to dismiss him, USA law is an ass
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Sometimes if a teacher is a bad performer they grab at anything to get rid of them. The opposite happens if they are a really good performer they can get away with a lot more. It is like many work places.

There are just too many unanswered questions. I think that is how the media likes to play it. Keep people divided.
 
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Radius said:
The students were standing in line and the teacher says to the last student that the "last shall be first, and the first shall be last."

A "ah-ha!" moment sounded off in the student's head. I've heard that before! The student inquired about the statement and wanted to know where it came from. The teacher said the Bible. The student said that he has never read the Bible before. So, the teacher pulled out his pocket-sized Bible and gave it him.
Will the HOLY BIBLE be banned ??
It is a beautiful story, really. But it ended in shame for the teacher. Well guess again! He's going after the school district for religious discrimination and rightfully so! Please pray that he gets his job back and that student finds God in the Bible that that teacher gave him.

Amen.

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Will the HOLY BIBLE be banned?
 
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