6-year-old transgender can use girls bathroom says Colorado court

[1still_waters]

Link---> 7NEWS - Colorado transgender first-grader Coy Mathis wins civil rights case, group says - Local Story

Coy was labeled male at birth, but has always known that she is a girl, which she has expressed since she was 18 months old.

Seriously? How does an 18-month-old decide they are a girl and not a boy?

At that age I thought I was Luke Skywalker.

 

[wisebeardman]

we live in a very evil and sick world.

 

[1still_waters]

we live in a very evil and sick world.

I mean I'm not even certain about the science behind the whole transgender thing. I don't know if it's really a medical thing or what. But at 18 months? Really? Just seems absurd to me.

 

[wisebeardman]

I mean I'm not even certain about the science behind the whole transgender thing. I don't know if it's really a medical thing or what. But at 18 months? Really? Just seems absurd to me.

lets just say some people are sick.

 

[1still_waters]

Is it really a medical thing where people are born with certain body parts, but the chemicals in their body are mismatched and such?

 

[SarahM777]

Is it really a medical thing where people are born with certain body parts, but the chemicals in their body are mismatched and such?

Still,

There are people born with both male and female tissue. There are those that are born with chromosome anomalies. IE 46XXY,47XXXY,48XXXXY and 49XXXXXY. There are also those who have those with what they call mosaic chromosome anomalies. In other words they can have both XX and XY cells. In a lot of those cases it can not always be seen from the outside. There was a recent case of a man in India that appeared normal and even had children. He had some pains in his abdomen and they ended up doing surgery and found he had both a uterus and fallopian tubes. There was another case in Colorado also same thing. So yes it can be a physical problem.

 

[Mo0448]

Still,

There are people born with both male and female tissue. There are those that are born with chromosome anomalies. IE 46XXY,47XXXY,48XXXXY and 49XXXXXY. There are also those who have those with what they call mosaic chromosome anomalies. In other words they can have both XX and XY cells. In a lot of those cases it can not always be seen from the outside. There was a recent case of a man in India that appeared normal and even had children. He had some pains in his abdomen and they ended up doing surgery and found he had both a uterus and fallopian tubes. There was another case in Colorado also same thing. So yes it can be a physical problem.

Just because it is a physical problem doesn't mean that all "mistakes in identity" are caused by these anomalies. Since when does an 18 month old have the capacity to determine that "he" isn't really a he? Besides the point, whether someone feels like a "girl" or not if I were a parent I am not sure how I would feel about someone with a "boy part" sharing a bathroom with my little daughter whether "he" believed "she" was a little delicate flower or not. What's next? I wanted to be a tiger when I was a kid in fact I was almost certain I was one, my parents didn't go and paint me in stripes and feed me raw meat now did they? In my opinion it seems like political propaganda by two very liberal parents...18 months old know what they want? I know 30 year olds that don't know what they want....

Besides kids question or go beyond the norms as kids normally do and parents begin to feed that curiosity by claiming that a he is a she or that a she is a he...it just feeds into what society dictates as "manly" or "feminine". Nonsense in my opinion

 

[TigerScent777]

Still,

There are people born with both male and female tissue. There are those that are born with chromosome anomalies. IE 46XXY,47XXXY,48XXXXY and 49XXXXXY. There are also those who have those with what they call mosaic chromosome anomalies. In other words they can have both XX and XY cells. In a lot of those cases it can not always be seen from the outside. There was a recent case of a man in India that appeared normal and even had children. He had some pains in his abdomen and they ended up doing surgery and found he had both a uterus and fallopian tubes. There was another case in Colorado also same thing. So yes it can be a physical problem.

...that is a minority --- the majority just choose to engage in a twisted sense of distorted temporal excitement...IMO

 

[Drett]

Link---> 7NEWS - Colorado transgender first-grader Coy Mathis wins civil rights case, group says - Local Story



Seriously? How does an 18-month-old decide they are a girl and not a boy?

At that age I thought I was Luke Skywalker.

It would be good to know the history of the parents. Have they been involved in any protests as they grew up etc.

A six year old does not instigate a court case, his parents do. I see cases like this and I wonder if it is true you are born that way. Looks like this child has been programmed since the age of 18 months.

 

[SarahM777]

Just because it is a physical problem doesn't mean that all "mistakes in identity" are caused by these anomalies. Since when does an 18 month old have the capacity to determine that "he" isn't really a he? Besides the point, whether someone feels like a "girl" or not if I were a parent I am not sure how I would feel about someone with a "boy part" sharing a bathroom with my little daughter whether "he" believed "she" was a little delicate flower or not. What's next? I wanted to be a tiger when I was a kid in fact I was almost certain I was one, my parents didn't go and paint me in stripes and feed me raw meat now did they? In my opinion it seems like political propaganda by two very liberal parents...18 months old know what they want? I know 30 year olds that don't know what they want....

Besides kids question or go beyond the norms as kids normally do and parents begin to feed that curiosity by claiming that a he is a she or that a she is a he...it just feeds into what society dictates as "manly" or "feminine". Nonsense in my opinion

All Still asked was if it was possible and the answer is yes it does happen. I never said all were caused by that. First of all transexuals are a VERY SMALL part of the population to begin with. How many people in here can even say they have ever met one? I am 55 years old,lived near Chicago for over 20 years,then lived between Milwaukee and Madison and in that all that time I have only known of 2 that have to deal with it. Take myself out and I have only known of 1. And that wasn't even on personal level.

Even though I deal with it I do NOT agree with them trying to force the bathroom issue or some of the other stuff that they are to force everyone else to accept.

I for sure do not agree with parents doing that to their children,they are not helping the child.

As to reasons why it happens I believe that there are three reasons why,some have just plain rejected what God has given them,two many have been severely abused,three are those that truly do have the physical issue. Remember also Jesus Himself said there were those who were born that way. So even in their day it was common enough that they knew it happened.

 

[SarahM777]

...that is a minority --- the majority just choose to engage in a twisted sense of distorted temporal excitement...IMO

Again the number of those dealing with transexual issues is very very small. And after dealing with it all my life I for sure know that it is not always for TEMPORAL EXCITEMENT. I am not saying there are not those that do see it that way. The number of children born with intersexed conditions is about 1 in 2,000 (Those that are obvious at birth) and about 1 in 500 where it is NOT obvious at birth. Many born with intersexed conditions doesn't bother them. Many times it is not found till an autopsy is done. Can anyone say when it crosses over from just the physical into the mental,emotional and spiritual aspect of the person dealing with it?

Are any of us so wise that we can for sure say for sure that a person dealing with it is born that way or not when even the doctors don't always know at birth?

 

[ukkez]

im not sure about that a 6yr old has dyed purple hair. but i think the school was wrong for her to be using the little girls room and then to make her use to boys after september, if she is wanting to be a girl they shouldent be making it a problem. its not the school to worrie about. when i first read it, i was thinking when she started school if it was going to be a problem maybe they should of got her to use a disabled one or something.
i dont agree with a 18month old knowing she is a she, but then if i was in there shoes, it is a 50/50, i wouldent know how to go about it.

 

[thecreationtutor]

Link---> 7NEWS - Colorado transgender first-grader Coy Mathis wins civil rights case, group says - Local Story



Seriously? How does an 18-month-old decide they are a girl and not a boy?

At that age I thought I was Luke Skywalker.

Have to think how sick the parents are, who knows, attention, or what agenda are they pushing - ridiculous

 

[thecreationtutor]

I have decided I want to be a woman right before i go to a water park, so I can use the females locker-room ...

 

[MrMalby]

Interesting isn't it

She was 6 when she was told she had to use the lads Bathroom not 18 months (that's when she realised she was a girl )

I don't know enough about the science behind these things but so far as I understand it a doctor decided she was a boy, presumably because of her bits and bobs, some people I understand are born with both male and female parts. As to how you would 'know' you are a girl, I have no idea.. will have to wait and see on this one.

for now it will go in the 'interesting but don't really understand it' part of my brains filing system.

Malby

 

[zone]

Link---> 7NEWS - Colorado transgender first-grader Coy Mathis wins civil rights case, group says - Local Story



Seriously? How does an 18-month-old decide they are a girl and not a boy?

At that age I thought I was Luke Skywalker.

the Family.

 

[zone]

The school calls Coy a girl as the family wishes, Dude said.

When 'his male genitals develop ...'

The school laid out some of its argument in a letter to the Mathis family's attorney in December:

The district "took into account not only Coy, but other students in the building, their parents and the future impact a boy with male genitals using a girls' bathroom would have as Coy grew older," the letter said.

"As Coy grows older and his male genitals develop along with the rest of his body," it said, "at least some parents and students are likely to become uncomfortable with his continued use of the girls' restroom."

Kathryn Mathis, Coy's mother, rejects that explanation. "The immediate problem with that is we're not in middle school yet, we're not in high school yet," she said Thursday. "And they're punishing a 6-year-old for something that hasn't happened and may not happen.

"Her body development is none of their business. That is up to her and her doctors in the future. That's not something that we're at right now. And right now we need to be protecting a 6-year-old, not a middle-schooler or a high-schooler."

Coy sat with her parents during the interview with CNN.

What establishes discrimination?

Colorado law prohibits "discrimination in employment, housing and places of public accommodations against an individual based upon actual or perceived sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is defined as heterosexuality, homosexuality (lesbian or gay), bisexuality, and transgender status. Transgender status means a gender identity or gender expression that differs from societal expectations based on gender assigned at birth."

It does not explicitly state that a transgender individual should be allowed to use a bathroom for people of the gender with which that individual identifies.

Dude, the Colorado school district's attorney, has said there is no such requirement for public schools.

But Jeremy Mathis told CNN he believes "the wording of the law is very solid, and I believe that they're in direct violation of it. They are, in fact, discriminating."

"Forcing her to use a separate bathroom from all the rest of the kids or forcing a little girl to go into he boys' room," he said, is "not OK."

School's transgender ruling sparks battle | News - KEYT

 

[Drett]

the Family.

The jigsaw puzzle is coming together.

 

[SarahM777]

The jigsaw puzzle is coming together.

No doubt. I still can't figure out how they determined this at 18 months.

 

[Ariel82]

gender roles are conditioned into people.

what I find disturbing is when the "girl" with male parts decide "she" is a lesbian.

at this point it is really the parents who have taught "her" that she is female and not male.

wait just read the article....

you have to submit a birth certificate when registering kids for school.

the school never should have allowed her to start using the girls bathroom if it said MALE in the certificate.

many kids with handicaps use a "special" bathroom.

someone who thinks they are female with male parts should NOT be allowed to use the same bathroom with other little girls.