Gays Want Their Blood In Public Blood Supply

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1still_waters

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The FDA has a ban on accepting blood donations from gays. The AMA is fighting the ban. They say it's about discrimination.

Link--> National gay blood drive aims to lift donation ban | WTVR.com

If you look at science, this is actually about life and death.
Stats from the CDC indicate that unprotected gay sex increases the transmission risk of HIV 1600 times that of unprotected heterosexual sex. Gay protected sex is even significantly riskier for transmission of HIV when compared to protected heterosexual sex. It's 80 times riskier, even with protection.

CDC statistics.--> http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/treatment/PIC/pdf/chart.pdf

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This isn't about discrimination, or what makes us feel mean and bad.
This is about health, and science.
 
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1still_waters

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Based on the statistics above, just consider this.

You're in need of a blood transfusion.

There are two bags of blood to choose from.

Bag 1 is labeled straight blood.
Bag 2 is labeled gay blood.

Based on the statistics alone, bag 1 would be the safest choice.

Now why even introduce option two into our blood supply?
Yes there are screening processes, but they can fail, and with more gay blood to screen, the chances of failure also increase.

Is it really worth our health, just so we don't feel all mean about "discriminating"?
 
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Still, (Still); there is no 'conspiracy'.
Even though the AMA follows the lead of the powers that be that promote homosexuality as a life choice,....there can't be any such thing as a 'conspiracy'.
 
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1still_waters

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Still, (Still); there is no 'conspiracy'.
Even though the AMA follows the lead of the powers that be that promote homosexuality as a life choice,....there can't be any such thing as a 'conspiracy'.
This is main stream news reporting.

The conspiracy theorist should reject what the main stream media is reporting.
In this case a conspiracy theorist should believe the FDA is for it, and the AMA is against it, cuz we can't believe what the media tells us.

And the conspiracy theorist should reject the CDC stats as some agenda against gays, since we can't trust what gubment says.
 
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This is main stream news reporting.

The conspiracy theorist should reject what the main stream media is reporting.
In this case a conspiracy theorist should believe the FDA is for it, and the AMA is against it, cuz we can't believe what the media tells us.

And the conspiracy theorist should reject the CDC stats as some agenda against gays, since we can't trust what gubment says.
Tell me when the practice of accepting homosexual and heterosexual blood as equal has changed.
Until then, don't hold your breath.
One thing to study: thesis, antithesis, synthesis.
- Called the Hegelian dialectic.
So the FDA and the AMA disagree?
(Read up on Hegel's dialectic) - And then tell me when the handling of donated blood will be segregated.
(Hint) - It will never be.
 
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You do realize that all donated blood is screened for HIValong with hepatitis A, hepatitis B and syphilis right?

So if blood is screened just what is the reason gays areexcluded from volunteering to give blood?
 
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You do realize that all donated blood is screened for HIValong with hepatitis A, hepatitis B and syphilis right?

So if blood is screened just what is the reason gays areexcluded from volunteering to give blood?
Well, the FDA has already banned homosexual blood donations. So, there ya go. (I wonder why?)
The AMA is fighting it.
Gee wizz, I wonder who will win in the name of acceptance?
(Of course there is no 'gadar' at the blood bank.)
- So anyone can claim anything as to their sexual proclivities.
- - Do you think every pint is tested for every variant?
The whole thing with "Acquired Immune Deficiency" is the germ mutates unnaturally fast, that's why your immune system can't keep up with it.
- - - That's why AIDS patients have lesions, and usually die from respiratory failure, the virus mutates faster than their antibodies can keep up with it.
 
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So generic 'AIDS' tests can be faulty, ...(especially when the HIV is combined with current AIDS combating drugs).
 

dliz

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You do realize that all donated blood is screened for HIValong with hepatitis A, hepatitis B and syphilis right?

So if blood is screened just what is the reason gays areexcluded from volunteering to give blood?

It takes time for someone to be diagnosed with HIV. One has to undergo series of tests before you can diagnose someone with HIV/AIDS so even if blood donations are being screened out, it doesn't 100 percent guarantee that you are safe from acquiring HIV/AIDs. Let's say this certain person had sexual contact with someone who has HIV and decides to donate blood the next day. So even if it's being screened out, mostly likely her/his blood donation would pass. But then again, HIV is asymptomatic at first and very dormant so you can't exactly tell just by looking whether you or someone else is infected with HIV. It's better to play safe than never. :)
 
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Tracer Bullet is generally clueless.
Don't mind his pointless posts, because he pays no attention to them when he makes them.
Mainly a total 'tracer' waste of time.
 
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Well, the FDA has already banned homosexual blood donations. So, there ya go. (I wonder why?)
Because in the early 1980 people were in a panic about HIV/AIDSand there was no reliable testing for blood products at the time


- - Do you think every pint is tested for every variant?
why don't you go look that up

The whole thing with "Acquired Immune Deficiency" is the germ mutates unnaturally fast, that's why your immune system can't keep up with it.
- - - That's why AIDS patients have lesions, and usually die from respiratory failure, the virus mutates faster than their antibodies can keep up with it.
HIV is a virus, not a germ.
And you might want to educate yourself on just how thisvirus operates

HIV/AIDS is now considered to be a chronic medicalcondition. With proper care treatment thoseinfected can expect to live just as long as someone un-infected
 

zone

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Still, (Still); there is no 'conspiracy'.
Even though the AMA follows the lead of the powers that be that promote homosexuality as a life choice,....there can't be any such thing as a 'conspiracy'.
rick.
he knows, he knows:

Lesotho Exposed: The Lesotho Lasso - The "poor" nation that rules the world.<--Click
 

zone

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This is main stream news reporting.

The conspiracy theorist should reject what the main stream media is reporting.
In this case a conspiracy theorist should believe the FDA is for it, and the AMA is against it, cuz we can't believe what the media tells us.

And the conspiracy theorist should reject the CDC stats as some agenda against gays, since we can't trust what gubment says.
the AMA; FDA and CDC are all (answering to/driven by) the same group.
the result is a given.

try to find any real history and SoP for the AMA.
good luck, should you accept that mission.
 
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rick.
he knows, he knows:

Lesotho Exposed: The Lesotho Lasso - The "poor" nation that rules the world.<--Click
Another good book to read is 'Tragedy and Hope' by Carroll Quigley.
It's way too long for any Bieber touting fan to read, so I'll give you the low down on why the many small countries were created after WWII.
They were created to play the U.S.S.R. off against the U.S.A.
This guy was the historian of the Council on Foreign Relations.
Bill Clinton thanked him in his acceptance speech.
(There are many other facts in that volume, but as for poor Lasso(figment of Still's imagination), that is why so many little nation states were created after the second World War...- Now, back to the Bieb!
 

notuptome

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When is the last time you gave blood? In my area there is a very extensive questionnaire required before you donate. Yes you can have the AIDs virus and not test positive. That is why it is difficult to screen for it.
If it's all the same to you folks I'd just as soon not introduce into the blood supply the question of viral contamination. You may not be concerned and that is your right.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Testing of blood is highlyaccurate the FDA indicates that 1 in 2 million blood transfusionsresults in an HIV infection.

Blood donation bans or deferrals should be applied to donorsaccording to their individual level of risk and are not based on sexualorientation alone.
 

maxwel

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I have my own way of dealing with these difficult issues.

I have a buddy, Jim Bob, who's the same blood type as me.
I simply drag him around everywhere I go.
I have a medical bracelet that says,
"If in need of transfusion, take blood from Jim Bob... whether he likes it or not."

: )
 

JimJimmers

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I was wondering why you invite me everywhere you go! I should have looked at that bracelet of yours more closely!
 
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Aids is not a gay only disease. And gays aren't the only ones that partake in anal intercourse.