How Sexual Equality Increases The Gap Between Rich And Poor Households

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1still_waters

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How Sexual Equality Increases The Gap Between Rich And Poor Households

IN “MAD MEN”, a series about the advertising industry in the 1960s, women are underpaid, sexually harassed and left with the kids while their husbands drunkenly philander. Sexual equality was a distant dream in those days. But when Don Draper, the show’s star, dumps the brainy consultant he has been dating and marries his secretary, he strikes a blow for equality of household income.


Nowadays, successful men are more likely to marry successful women. This is a good thing. It reflects the fact that there are more high-flying women. Male doctors in the 1960s married nurses because there were few female doctors. Now there are plenty. Yet assortative mating (the tendency of similar people to marry each other) aggravates inequality between households — two married lawyers are much richer than a single mother who stacks shelves. A new study* of hundreds of thousands of couples investigates the link.


The wage gap between highly and barely educated workers has grown, but that could in theory have been offset by the fact that more women now go to college and get good jobs. Had spouses chosen each other at random, many well-paid women would have married ill-paid men and vice versa. Workers would have become more unequal, but households would not. With such “random” matching, the authors estimate that the Gini co-efficient, which is zero at total equality and one at total inequality, would have remained roughly unchanged, at 0.33 in 1960 and 0.34 in 2005.


But in reality the highly educated increasingly married each other. In 1960 25% of men with university degrees married women with degrees; in 2005, 48% did. As a result, the Gini rose from 0.34 in 1960 to 0.43 in 2005.


Assortative mating is hardly mysterious. People with similar education tend to work in similar places and often find each other attractive. On top of this, the economic incentive to marry your peers has increased. A woman with a graduate degree whose husband dropped out of high school in 1960 could still enjoy household income 40% above the national average; by 2005, such a couple would earn 8% below it. In 1960 a household composed of two people with graduate degrees earned 76% above the average; by 2005, they earned 119% more. Women have far more choices than before, and that is one reason why inequality will be hard to reverse.


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/h...e-gap-between-rich-and-poor-households-2014-2
 
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How Sexual Equality Increases The Gap Between Rich And Poor Households

IN “MAD MEN”, a series about the advertising industry in the 1960s, women are underpaid, sexually harassed and left with the kids while their husbands drunkenly philander. Sexual equality was a distant dream in those days. But when Don Draper, the show’s star, dumps the brainy consultant he has been dating and marries his secretary, he strikes a blow for equality of household income.


Nowadays, successful men are more likely to marry successful women. This is a good thing. It reflects the fact that there are more high-flying women. Male doctors in the 1960s married nurses because there were few female doctors. Now there are plenty. Yet assortative mating (the tendency of similar people to marry each other) aggravates inequality between households — two married lawyers are much richer than a single mother who stacks shelves. A new study* of hundreds of thousands of couples investigates the link.


The wage gap between highly and barely educated workers has grown, but that could in theory have been offset by the fact that more women now go to college and get good jobs. Had spouses chosen each other at random, many well-paid women would have married ill-paid men and vice versa. Workers would have become more unequal, but households would not. With such “random” matching, the authors estimate that the Gini co-efficient, which is zero at total equality and one at total inequality, would have remained roughly unchanged, at 0.33 in 1960 and 0.34 in 2005.


But in reality the highly educated increasingly married each other. In 1960 25% of men with university degrees married women with degrees; in 2005, 48% did. As a result, the Gini rose from 0.34 in 1960 to 0.43 in 2005.


Assortative mating is hardly mysterious. People with similar education tend to work in similar places and often find each other attractive. On top of this, the economic incentive to marry your peers has increased. A woman with a graduate degree whose husband dropped out of high school in 1960 could still enjoy household income 40% above the national average; by 2005, such a couple would earn 8% below it. In 1960 a household composed of two people with graduate degrees earned 76% above the average; by 2005, they earned 119% more. Women have far more choices than before, and that is one reason why inequality will be hard to reverse.


http://www.businessinsider.com.au/h...e-gap-between-rich-and-poor-households-2014-2

What was the point of this?
 
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That rich men tend to marry rich women now.
That's all? I got the feeling there was an underlying point of misogyny. 'Female equality is to blame for the gap in rich and poor becoming broader, we should go back to sexual inequality'. That's what the article said to me.
 
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That's all? I got the feeling there was an underlying point of misogyny. 'Female equality is to blame for the gap in rich and poor becoming broader, we should go back to sexual inequality'. That's what the article said to me.
That could be a point too. That indirectly feminism has hurt women, without intent.
 
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That could be a point too. That indirectly feminism has hurt women, without intent.
But really that's not the case, or at least, it's more of a spin-doctor statement than it is the actual reality. The reality being - being uneducated usually means a lower-paying job, regardless of gender. The other reality being that educated people generally like to talk about and pursue different things than uneducated people, regardless of gender. Educated people often have educated peers, regardless of gender.

Etc, etc.
 
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But really that's not the case, or at least, it's more of a spin-doctor statement than it is the actual reality. The reality being - being uneducated usually means a lower-paying job, regardless of gender.
It's all perspective. Feminism has made it harder for a woman to marry an educated stable man who can take care of her.
 
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It's all perspective. Feminism has made it harder for a woman to marry an educated stable man who can take care of her.
Well, yea, I mean everything's a matter of perspective really, when you think about it hard enough. But still, I'm sure most women would rather have the choice to make their life what they make it, rather than their only option being to 'marry an educated stable man', so that she can be taken care of.

Women can take care of themselves, to my perspective.
 
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Well, yea, I mean everything's a matter of perspective really, when you think about it hard enough. But still, I'm sure most women would rather have the choice to make their life what they make it, rather than their only option being to 'marry an educated stable man', so that she can be taken care of.

Women can take care of themselves, to my perspective.
Then why do so many of them demand tons of government programs?
 
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Women have the children. Children require being looked after. More men are skipping out on the kids.
Men skip out because feminists keep saying they can do everything a man can do, and they keep saying men aren't needed.
 
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Meh interesting viewpoints, though if I were to argue against this theory I would argue that Divorce and the surging single parent phenomena is probably a bigger cause than rich men marrying rich women being the reason for this gap. Though mind you it seems we're just looking at America and its "Stats."

One could argue that "rich" men and "rich" women don't necessarily marry by mutual profession as well. One could argue that rich men and rich women are in fact "rich" because they stayed together and in accordance to the LORD remained faithful to eachother regardless of profession and thus combined as equals, even if the mother were to just raise the child (stay at home mom) or work even a minimum wage job (which most married women, even with college degrees today in fact work) together as a whole flesh they are in fact rich because they are combined and a team.

As where unmarried women, and especially unmaried women with children, or even in fact it is true many unmarried men with children, or men who have undergone divorce (these days increasingly multiple divorces) will be less rich statistically than their happily married, loyal, and faithfully committed counterparts.


Then again perhaps we must argue what rich really means. Does rich mean have more money? Well money is in fact worthless, therefore even with as much money in the world that exists, thou are not rich. If you mean rich in a specific currency, you should remember economies can be broken and currencies rendered worthless in the blink of an eye. It has indeed happened even in America less than 1 century ago. Therefore any form of currency is subject to become worthless at any given time, and frequently at that if history is any indicator.
 
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Men skip out because feminists keep saying they can do everything a man can do, and they keep saying men aren't needed.
Men skip out because those men have no backbone. Men with backbone fight to be part of the child's life.

Win or lose, that's admirable. Just because women have free rights, doesn't mean that men have to be afraid to tell a woman to wind her neck in when she's being stupid. They do it to us. It's useful sometimes to be told you're being an idiot.
 
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Men skip out because feminists keep saying they can do everything a man can do, and they keep saying men aren't needed.
That's a pretty pathetic view of men you have. What kind of infidel (Paul's words, not mine) can't man up and take care of his family? Why do you automatically assume that if a woman is capable that it means that a man is incapable?

Both genders are to work together for the good of the kingdom. I support your calling to be a strong man of God. Stop condemning my gender.
 
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That's a pretty pathetic view of men you have. What kind of infidel (Paul's words, not mine) can't man up and take care of his family? Why do you automatically assume that if a woman is capable that it means that a man is incapable?

Both genders are to work together for the good of the kingdom. I support your calling to be a strong man of God. Stop condemning my gender.
Thing with feminism is that a guy is in a no win situation.
If he stands strong, and doesn't buy the routine,then he's oppressive.
If he gives in, then the apostle Paul gets quoted to him.
Of course if he tries implementing other things Paul said about men being leaders, then the feminists roast him for it. If he sticks to his guns they roast him more. But if he caves then he's weak.

WEEEE..gotta love feminism.
 
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Men skip out because feminists keep saying they can do everything a man can do, and they keep saying men aren't needed.
It's more than just saying one can do the same, but continually pushing men out of their role as fathers and leaders of the home. Feminism at best turns men into sperm banks with an income.
 
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That's a pretty pathetic view of men you have. What kind of infidel (Paul's words, not mine) can't man up and take care of his family? Why do you automatically assume that if a woman is capable that it means that a man is incapable?

Both genders are to work together for the good of the kingdom. I support your calling to be a strong man of God. Stop condemning my gender.
I'm speaking against feminism, not women.
 
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That's a pretty pathetic view of men you have. What kind of infidel (Paul's words, not mine) can't man up and take care of his family? Why do you automatically assume that if a woman is capable that it means that a man is incapable?

Both genders are to work together for the good of the kingdom. I support your calling to be a strong man of God. Stop condemning my gender.


What kind of infidel (Paul's words, not mine) can't man up and take care of his family?
The kind that marries another kind of infidel, feminism.
 

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Original feminists were prolife, Christian tea-totallers who fought for women to have equal treatment under the law. The church didn't care enough about women to spearhead the movement, so a more radical element took over. The latter is called new wave feminism., which is the man hating extremists. Even so, gird up now thy loins like a man and stop blaming others for your ineptitude.