China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years

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Sophia1993

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This is absolutely wonderful and amazing! To the lost who don't want to be found, and to the evil ones who want to take away a person's love and greatest comfort: Jesus, you can never take that away. How can you defeat the Truth when it is stronger than any of us? It won't stop spreading. Do you notice the more you persecute Christians, the more they multiply? The Truth, Jesus, will always triumph. It's spreading like a wildfire, and you cannot stop it. Do you know how many Chinese there are? A LOT. The love will spread to much, much more:) But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God. -Acts 5:39

[h=1]China on course to become 'world's most Christian nation' within 15 years[/h][h=2]The number of Christians in Communist China is growing so steadily that it by 2030 it could have more churchgoers than America[/h]It is said to be China's biggest church and on Easter Sunday thousands of worshippers will flock to this Asian mega-temple to pledge their allegiance – not to the Communist Party, but to the Cross.

The 5,000-capacity Liushi church, which boasts more than twice as many seats as Westminster Abbey and a 206ft crucifix that can be seen for miles around, opened last year with one theologian declaring it a "miracle that such a small town was able to build such a grand church".

The £8 million building is also one of the most visible symbols of Communist China's breakneck conversion as it evolves into one of the largest Christian congregations on earth.

"It is a wonderful thing to be a follower of Jesus Christ. It gives us great confidence," beamed Jin Hongxin, a 40-year-old visitor who was admiring the golden cross above Liushi's altar in the lead up to Holy Week.

"If everyone in China believed in Jesus then we would have no more need for police stations. There would be no more bad people and therefore no more crime," she added.

Officially, the People's Republic of China is an atheist country but that is changing fast as many of its 1.3 billion citizens seek meaning and spiritual comfort that neither communism nor capitalism seem to have supplied.
Christian congregations in particular have skyrocketed since churches began reopening when Chairman Mao's death in 1976 signalled the end of the Cultural Revolution.
Less than four decades later, some believe China is now poised to become not just the world's number one economy but also its most numerous Christian nation.
"By my calculations China is destined to become the largest Christian country in the world very soon," said Fenggang Yang, a professor of sociology at Purdue University and author of Religion in China: Survival and Revival under Communist Rule.
"It is going to be less than a generation. Not many people are prepared for this dramatic change."
China's Protestant community, which had just one million members in 1949, has already overtaken those of countries more commonly associated with an evangelical boom. In 2010 there were more than 58 million Protestants in China compared to 40 million in Brazil and 36 million in South Africa, according to the Pew Research Centre's Forum on Religion and Public Life.
Prof Yang, a leading expert on religion in China, believes that number will swell to around 160 million by 2025. That would likely put China ahead even of the United States, which had around 159 million Protestants in 2010 but whose congregations are in decline.
By 2030, China's total Christian population, including Catholics, would exceed 247 million, placing it above Mexico, Brazil and the United States as the largest Christian congregation in the world, he predicted.
"Mao thought he could eliminate religion. He thought he had accomplished this," Prof Yang said. "It's ironic – they didn't. They actually failed completely."
Like many Chinese churches, the church in the town of Liushi, 200 miles south of Shanghai in Zhejiang province, has had a turbulent history.
It was founded in 1886 after William Edward Soothill, a Yorkshire-born missionary and future Oxford University professor, began evangelising local communities.
But by the late 1950s, as the region was engulfed by Mao's violent anti-Christian campaigns, it was forced to close.
Liushi remained shut throughout the decade of the Cultural Revolution that began in 1966, as places of worship were destroyed across the country.
Since it reopened in 1978 its congregation has gone from strength to strength as part of China's officially sanctioned Christian church – along with thousands of others that have accepted Communist Party oversight in return for being allowed to worship.
Today it has 2,600 regular churchgoers and holds up to 70 baptisms each year, according to Shi Xiaoli, its 27-year-old preacher. The parish's revival reached a crescendo last year with the opening of its new 1,500ft mega-church, reputedly the biggest in mainland China.
"Our old church was small and hard to find," said Ms Shi. "There wasn't room in the old building for all the followers, especially at Christmas and at Easter. The new one is big and eye-catching."
The Liushi church is not alone. From Yunnan province in China's balmy southwest to Liaoning in its industrial northeast, congregations are booming and more Chinese are thought to attend Sunday services each week than do Christians across the whole of Europe.
A recent study found that online searches for the words "Christian Congregation"and "Jesus" far outnumbered those for "The Communist Party" and "Xi Jinping", China's president.
Among China's Protestants are also many millions who worship at illegal underground "house churches", which hold unsupervised services – often in people's homes – in an attempt to evade the prying eyes of the Communist Party.
Such churches are mostly behind China's embryonic missionary movement – a reversal of roles after the country was for centuries the target of foreign missionaries. Now it is starting to send its own missionaries abroad, notably into North Korea, in search of souls.
"We want to help and it is easier for us than for British, South Korean or American missionaries," said one underground church leader in north China who asked not to be named.
The new spread of Christianity has the Communist Party scratching its head.
"The child suddenly grew up and the parents don't know how to deal with the adult," the preacher, who is from China's illegal house-church movement, said.
Some officials argue that religious groups can provide social services the government cannot, while simultaneously helping reverse a growing moral crisis in a land where cash, not Communism, has now become king.
They appear to agree with David Cameron, the British prime minister,who said last week that Christianity could help boost Britain's "spiritual, physical and moral" state.
Ms Shi, Liushi's preacher, who is careful to describe her church as "patriotic", said: "We have two motivations: one is our gospel mission and the other is serving society. Christianity can also play a role in maintaining peace and stability in society. Without God, people can do as they please."
Yet others within China's leadership worry about how the religious landscape might shape its political future, and its possible impact on the Communist Party's grip on power, despite the clause in the country's 1982 constitution that guarantees citizens the right to engage in "normal religious activities".
As a result, a close watch is still kept on churchgoers, and preachers are routinely monitored to ensure their sermons do not diverge from what the Party considers acceptable.
In Liushi church a closed circuit television camera hangs from the ceiling, directly in front of the lectern.
"They want the pastor to preach in a Communist way. They want to train people to practice in a Communist way," said the house-church preacher, who said state churches often shunned potentially subversive sections of the Bible. The Old Testament book in which the exiled Daniel refuses to obey orders to worship the king rather than his own god is seen as "very dangerous", the preacher added.
Such fears may not be entirely unwarranted. Christians' growing power was on show earlier this month when thousands flocked to defend a church in Wenzhou, a city known as the "Jerusalem of the East", after government threats to demolish it. Faced with the congregation's very public show of resistance, officials appear to have backed away from their plans, negotiating a compromise with church leaders.
"They do not trust the church, but they have to tolerate or accept it because the growth is there," said the church leader. "The number of Christians is growing – they cannot fight it. They do not want the 70 million Christians to be their enemy."
The underground leader church leader said many government officials viewed religion as "a sickness" that needed curing, and Prof Yang agreed there was a potential threat.
The Communist Party was "still not sure if Christianity would become an opposition political force" and feared it could be used by "Western forces to overthrow the Communist political system", he said.
Churches were likely to face an increasingly "intense" struggle over coming decade as the Communist Party sought to stifle Christianity's rise, he predicted.
"There are people in the government who are trying to control the church. I think they are making the last attempt to do that."
 

TheAristocat

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Christianity is spreading fast here. The government has begun to crack down on it a little more. They're worried about its quick spread, though I'm not entirely sure why. And they haven't provided logical reasons as to why either. My guess is that the Communist Party's stance that there is no god is going to become increasingly unpopular and they see that.
 

Desdichado

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The next 15 years are going to be interesting.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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i have been following the christianization of china for a while now...i am also expecting that china's government is going to become much more accepting of christianity in the next twenty or thirty years...
 

Agricola

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China will invade the USA on a holy crusade to remove the land of Islamic rulers and restore God at the centre of government!
 
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This is good and hopeful news indeed. I am glad to see the Word spreading in China.

Heh good article, I was just listening to some Chinese Christian songs earlier. I admit I don't know what they're saying in all the songs since I don't know mandarin, but it sounds lovely and just the fact these songs are available on the internet in the first place is good proof for hope that China is getting better and Christianity and Jesus goodness is spreading in the world.

Here's a good one (wish I knew what they were saying in english though):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdWI7VM2O9I
[video=youtube;pdWI7VM2O9I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdWI7VM2O9I[/video]

It's still a hard road though to more Chinese equality for Christians. Don't get me wrong ,there is still much crackdown on Christianity, but even despite the hardships much proof for hope in Jesus can be seen in China too in this time now compared to maybe any other time period of Chinese history besides maybe Kubilai Khan era.
 

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Remember Egypt...

Exodus 1:7-10 And the children of Israel were fruitful, and increased abundantly, and multiplied, and waxed exceeding mighty; and the land was filled with them.
Now there arose up a new king over Egypt, which knew not Joseph.

And he said unto his people, Behold, the people of the children of Israel are more and mightier than we:

Come on, let us deal wisely with them; lest they multiply, and it come to pass, that, when there falleth out any war, they join also unto our enemies, and fight against us, and so get them up out of the land.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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China is preparing to commence 'Phase III' of their program to wipe out all Christian churches in China that do not accept the Chinese government's heretical 'Three-Self Patriotic Movement (TSPM) church system.'

The Chinese government is preparing to implement sweeping persecution upon genuine Christians in China.

Persecution Rises in China as Plan Begins to End House Churches

They have already begun church demolitions. Zhejiang Province has three churches were demolished, Pingyang County, Wenzhou City, demolitions arrow Ao church, wounding six followers; Zhoushan City Baiquan church cross demolitions; Taizhou grace Cross Church demolitions, Wenzhou church thousands of believers continue to rally Sanjiang.

Chinese Christians surround a church attempting to stop the Chinese government from destroying it:

Christians Form Human Shield Around Church in China's 'Jerusalem' - The Daily Beast

Read more: Chinese Christians Rattle Government
 
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What happened to europe?
More christians leaving the truth?
 
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On easter of this year,more than 100 people were baptised in the local church I usually go to.Luckily I was one of them. Many of them bear testimonies-what God has done for them.Chinese really need God.Many of us feel so insecure and lost and crushing pressure daily .I don't know what the rest of the world is like.Personally,God has removed my cares and filled my heart with hope and light.Without Him I may get some suicidal thoughts sooner or later.Well,it's a joke.But God is so important to me.Actually what chairman Mao had done removed or weakened idols and false gods and prepared the way for Christianity.
 
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My heart should thank the martyrs and preachers who have brought Gospels of Jesus to China, and to those who are doing God's work.Without them I could nerver know God . :)
 

TheAristocat

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Chinese really need God.Many of us feel so insecure and lost and crushing pressure daily .
I see this a lot when it comes to their jobs. They're always worried they're going to lose their jobs. And some of them have to work over time without any extra pay and poor wages. Their situation is very unfortunate. Especially how hard the children study. Some of them are so distraught that they jump off of buildings. They definitely have my admiration, but I don't think anyone should work that hard, especially children. I think they should get rid of the gaokao. There shouldn't be a single test that determines what university you go to and what the rest of your life should be like. That is too much pressure.
 
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I see America and China swapping statuses when it comes to this. America being what China was years ago...maybe not physically killing Christians but socially ostracizing for their faith. As Christianity grows in China, once the government leaders are faithful to the cause of Christ, we'll have a different picture than years ago. The Spirit is still moving across the world.
 
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Post-milliennialism may rise from the dead. :p
 

Nautilus

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there is always a negative nancy somewhere in a thread
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I just found it ironic is all. No need to resort to name calling Nautilus.