Israel - Synagogue of Satan

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Rothschild was a large contributer to the Zionist dream, but God can use evil men (if that's your implication) for His Good Pleasure and Purpose.

Think it through. God commands us NOT to be unequally YOKED to unbelievers. We are NOT to take heed of Jewish myths and fables. So the question that one needs to ask is the Zionist nation of Israel truly an act of God or is it an act of Rothschild? Like it or not Biblically the reality is that Israel is an enemy of the gospel and we are NOT TO BE UNEQUALLY YOKED TO THEM. Period. There is NO AMBIGUITY in those passages. There is no DISTINCTION made between Jewish or Gentile believers in the passage from 2 Corinthians.
 
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Romans 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

Romans 11:28

Concerning the gospel, the Jews were enemies; concerning the election, the Jews were chosen by God and the objects of His unalterable promises which He made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In the days of the early church (as seen in the book of Acts) the greatest opposition to the preaching of the gospel came from unbelieving Jews. This is perhaps most clearly seen in 1 Thess. 2:14-16 (these are very strong words, but remember that they were written by the same Apostle who wrote Romans 9:1-4 and Romans 10:1). The unbelief and hostility of certain Jews does not alter the promises of God toward the nation which He has chosen (see Deut. 7:6-8 and Deut. 10:15). Romans 11:28 is very helpful in showing us what our attitude should be towards the Jewish people today. On the one hand we should not excuse or minimize the wrong which they do. We don’t want to become so "pro-Israel" that we pretend that they can do not wrong. God has not turned away ungodliness from this nation yet (see v.26) and there are plenty of ungodly actions perpetrated by Jewish people. On the other hand we don’t want to forget the very special place that this nation has in the plan and program of God, and with excitement we await the fulfillment of all of God’s promises to this nation. In the days of Moses and Balaam an effort was made by the heathen to CURSE the nation Israel, but what God has blessed man cannot curse (see Numbers 23:20) because God will make good all that He has spoken and promised (see Numbers 23:19)!

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
Numbers 23:20 Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it.

By supporting Israel (in our prayers and actions through sharing Christ with the Jewish people) has NOTHING to do with being unequally yoked with unbelievers. We are not "worshipping" and having Christian "fellowship" with unbelieving Jews. It is the duty of every Christian to "preach the Gospel to every creature" (Mark 16:15)....this includes the Jews.

Romans 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
 

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Think it through. God commands us NOT to be unequally YOKED to unbelievers. We are NOT to take heed of Jewish myths and fables. So the question that one needs to ask is the Zionist nation of Israel truly an act of God or is it an act of Rothschild? Like it or not Biblically the reality is that Israel is an enemy of the gospel and we are NOT TO BE UNEQUALLY YOKED TO THEM. Period. There is NO AMBIGUITY in those passages. There is no DISTINCTION made between Jewish or Gentile believers in the passage from 2 Corinthians.
Who is saying unequally yoked? I just acknowledge the reality of God's promises of regathering them back into THEIR land.
 
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Think it through. God commands us NOT to be unequally YOKED to unbelievers. We are NOT to take heed of Jewish myths and fables. So the question that one needs to ask is the Zionist nation of Israel truly an act of God or is it an act of Rothschild? Like it or not Biblically the reality is that Israel is an enemy of the gospel and we are NOT TO BE UNEQUALLY YOKED TO THEM. Period. There is NO AMBIGUITY in those passages. There is no DISTINCTION made between Jewish or Gentile believers in the passage from 2 Corinthians.
Talk about out of context....read the first two verses of 2nd Corinthians 6 and get the context of the partial verse that you used out of context to prove your belief.....as it has nothing to do with our relationship to Israel, but rather covers nicely ecumenicalism and doing a spiritual work with someone who does not believe the truth...

WE THEN AS WORKERS TOGETHER WITH HIM<------context!
 
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Talk about out of context....read the first two verses of 2nd Corinthians 6 and get the context of the partial verse that you used out of context to prove your belief.....as it has nothing to do with our relationship to Israel, but rather covers nicely ecumenicalism and doing a spiritual work with someone who does not believe the truth...

WE THEN AS WORKERS TOGETHER WITH HIM<------context!
I understand quite well the context and if you would put it all INTO context you would see it. The context QUITE CLEARLY speaks of the GOSPEL and the MINISTRY OF RECONCILIATION. NOT setting up an Israeli land in the name of God. No where in the New Testament can you find it,nor can you find were God ever told us to do that.


What YOU and the rest that claim that this Zionist nation is an act of God DO NOT get,IF this is NOT of God then what you have done is placed God's name on it and made it OK for Israel to steal and murder in His name,and God WILL hold ALL that do accountable to Him for taking His name and SLANDERING it before the world.




 
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I understand quite well the context and if you would put it all INTO context you would see it. The context QUITE CLEARLY speaks of the GOSPEL and the MINISTRY OF RECONCILIATION. NOT setting up an Israeli land in the name of God. No where in the New Testament can you find it,nor can you find were God ever told us to do that.


What YOU and the rest that claim that this Zionist nation is an act of God DO NOT get,IF this is NOT of God then what you have done is placed God's name on it and made it OK for Israel to steal and murder in His name,and God WILL hold ALL that do accountable to Him for taking His name and SLANDERING it before the world.




What you don't seem to understand is the verse you quoted out of context has nothing at all to do with the bolded above in your comment
 
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Yes it sure does because you also leave out verses 15-18

"Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? Or what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; just as God said, 'I will dwell in them and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate,' says the Lord. 'And do not touch what is unclean; And I will welcome you. And I will be a Father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to Me,' Says the Lord Almighty."

Why then do Christians bind themselves with murderers and thieves,and all in the name of God? Go back and look at the recent history of Israel and you will see they have blood on their hands through murder. Yet somehow many Christians believe that God is going to look away from it all.

EXAMPLES OF HATE SPEECH BY ISRAEL AGAINST PALESTINE

23. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.
24. "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." -- Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 [Source: N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1]
25. "We Jews, we are the destroyers and will remain the destroyers. Nothing you can do will meet our demands and needs. We will forever destroy because we want a world of our own." (You Gentiles, by Jewish Author Maurice Samuels, p. 155).

26. "We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (Jewish Banker Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, as he testified before the U.S. Senate).

27. "We will establish ourselves in Palestine whether you like it or not...You can hasten our arrival or you can equally retard it. It is however better for you to help us so as to avoid our constructive powers being turned into a destructive power which will overthrow the world." (Chaim Weizmann, Published in "Judische Rundschau," No. 4, 1920)

28. "Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." - Israeli prime Minister Menachem Begin in a speech to the Knesset [Israeli Parliament] quoted by Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts," New Statesman, June 25, 1982

29. "Tell me, do the evil men of this world have a bad time? They hunt and catch whatever they feel like eating. They don't suffer from indigestion and are not punished by Heaven. I want Israel to join that club. Maybe the world will then at last begin to fear us instead of feeling sorry. Maybe they will start to tremble, to fear our madness instead of admiring our nobility. Let them tremble; let them call us a mad state. Let them understand that we are a savage country, dangerous to our surroundings, not normal, that we might go wild, that we might start World War Three just like that, or that we might one day go crazy and burn all the oil fields in the Middle East. Even if you'll prove to me that the present war is a dirty immoral war, I don't care. We shall start another war, kill and destroy more and more. And do you know why it is all worth it? Because it seems that this war has made us more unpopular among the civilized world.We'll hear no more of that nonsense about the unique Jewish morality. No more talk about a unique people being a light upon the nations. No more uniqueness and no more sweetness and light. Good riddance." --Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon

31. "What shocks and worries me is the narrow-mindedness and the shortsightedness of our military leaders. They seem to presume that the State of Israel may or even must-behave in the realm of international relations according to the laws of the jungle- -the long chain of false incidents and hostilities we have invented, and so many clashes we have provoked;" - From Diary of Moshe Sharett, former Primer Minister of Israel in Livia Rokach, Israel's Sacred Terrorism published 980

35. Vladimir Jabotinsky, The Iron Wall, 1923: "Zionist colonization must either be terminated or carried out against the wishes of the native population. This colonization can, therefore, be continued and make progress only under the protection of a power independent of the native population - an iron wall, which will be in a position to resist the pressure to the native population. This is our policy towards the Arabs..."
36. Vladimir Jabotinsky, founder of Revisionist Zionism (precursor of Likud), The Iron Wall, 1923: "A voluntary reconciliation with the Arabs is out of the question either now or in the future. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison for the land, or find some rich man or benefactor who will provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else-or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempt to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not difficult, not dangerous, but IMPOSSIBLE!... Zionism is a colonization adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important... to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot - or else I am through with playing at colonizing."
40. David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben- Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978: "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai."41. David Ben-Gurion, one of the father founders of Israel, described Zionist aims in 1948: "A Christian state should be established [in Lebanon], with its southern border on the Litani river. We will make an alliance with it. When we smash the Arab Legion's strength and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria and Cairo... And in this fashion, we will end the war and settle our forefathers' account with Egypt, Assyria, and Aram"43. Martin Buber, Jewish Philosopher, addressed Prime Minister Ben Gurion on the moral character of the state of Israel with reference to the Arab refugees in March 1949. "We will have to face the reality that Israel is neither innocent, nor redemptive. And that in its creation, and expansion; we as Jews, have caused what we historically have suffered; a refugee population in Diaspora."

47. Dr. Israel Shahak, Chairperson of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights, and a survivor of the Bergen Belsen concentration camp, Commenting on the Israeli military's Emergency Regulations following the 1967 War. Palestine, vol. 12, December 1983: "Hitler's legal power was based upon the 'Enabling Act', which was passed quite legally by the Reichstag and which allowed the Fuehrer and his representatives, in plain language, to be what they wanted, or in legal language, to issue regulations having the force of law. Exactly the same type of act was passed by the Knesset [Israeli's Parliament] immediately after the 1067 conquest granting the Israeli governor and his representatives the power of Hitler, which they use in Hitlerian manner."

48. Joseph Weitz, Director of the Jewish National Fund, the Zionist agency charged with acquiring Palestinian land, Circa 194. Machover Israca, January 5, 1973 /p.2: "The only solution is Eretz Israel [Greater Israel], or at least Western Eretz Israel [all the land west of Jordan River], without Arabs. There is no room for compromise on this point ... We must not leave a single village, not a single tribe."

49. Israeli Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, Inferring that killing isn't murder if the victim is Gentile. Jerusalem Post, June 19,1989: "Jewish blood and a goy's [gentile's] blood are not the same."

EXAMPLES OF HATE SPEECH BY ISRAEL AGAINST PALESTINE | WHAT REALLY HAPPENED

These are the people and leaders that Christians have bound themselves with.
 
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9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

11. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

12. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)

17. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.



 
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9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

11. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

12. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.)

17. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.



No matter how much you rant and rave it will not change the fact that the scriptures you yanked out of context were applicable unto the Corinthian Church and involved working together for the cause of Christ.....

It was a BRITISH mandate that set up the borders in the Land of Palestine and not the Lord's churches so keep on ranting and raving....you wont change my mind!
 

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Sarah,
I guess Paul had it all wrong when he bound his heart to those 'murderers', 'thieves' 'scoundrels'? Maybe Paul didn't know anything about 2Cor 6?


I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
(Rom 9:1-3)
 
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No matter how much you rant and rave it will not change the fact that the scriptures you yanked out of context were applicable unto the Corinthian Church and involved working together for the cause of Christ.....

It was a BRITISH mandate that set up the borders in the Land of Palestine and not the Lord's churches so keep on ranting and raving....you wont change my mind!
You forget that Paul is restating the VERY SAME concept that God had given Israel. The concept is one and the same,so that we and they alike are NOT lead away from the Lord and into sin. How much of supporting Israel is about preaching the gospel or is it about the track of land,never mind their souls?

I never said it wasn't a British mandate. Many of the churches have GIVEN their BLESSING on it all in the name of God. Never mind the history behind it.
 
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Sarah,
I guess Paul had it all wrong when he bound his heart to those 'murderers', 'thieves' 'scoundrels'? Maybe Paul didn't know anything about 2Cor 6?


I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
(Rom 9:1-3)
Where in there is Paul concerned about the LAND? Paul was concerned about their SOULS not the land. The land MEANS NOTHING if they lose their souls. Jesus concern was also one and the same. To restore the people the Father,and NOT ABOUT restoring them to the land.
 
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psssst.....its called....the Promised Land..........