There's no school tomorrow, there are no children left there

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Drett

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The right wing in Gaza seem to grab all the attention here while the right wing in Israel are generally ignored.

Right-wing Israelis have been filmed chanting "There's no children left there [in Gaza]" and "Gaza is a cemetery" in a seeming celebration of their military's offensive on the territory during a Tel Aviv demonstration.

"There's no school tomorrow, there are no children left there [in Gaza]".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7qFACSfd_k


They may be a point. Children blown up playing football at the beach. Maybe they had the missiles stored under the goal posts ? Two separate bombs blasts. First bomb blast killed one. The fleeing children were targeted 30 seconds later with three dead.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/17/w...losion-kills-children.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

In a report issued Wednesday, Human Rights Watch said Israel had repeatedly struck civilians and their property without a clear military purpose and called on it to “end unlawful attacks.”

Unfortunately I will probably be yet again surprised at just how stone hearted people can be here. So Jesus like. I am out of here. Bring on the red herrings.
 
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Agricola

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IF they obeyed their parents they would be alive.

From the Article:
The four Bakr boys were young cousins, the children of Gaza fishermen who had ordered them to stay indoors — and especially away from the beach.

Obviously the adults knew Hamas were up to no good on the beach, knowing it would be targeted at some point, which it was, so yes if the kids did as they were told they would be alive.
 
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Drett

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Yes the price of disobeying your parents is of course death.

The parent obviously know the IDF are targeting children but stuck indoors for 9 days the children had enough. There was no hamas activity at the beach otherwise there would have other casualties other than children.

What do you have to say on the second strike 30 seconds later on the fleeing children. Target practice ?

I repeat yet again. Maybe it will sink in eventually.

In a report issued Wednesday, Human Rights Watch said Israel had repeatedly struck civilians and their property without a clear military purpose and called on it to “end unlawful attacks.

I really get sick of this sometimes.

IF they obeyed their parents they would be alive.

From the Article:
The four Bakr boys were young cousins, the children of Gaza fishermen who had ordered them to stay indoors — and especially away from the beach.

Obviously the adults knew Hamas were up to no good on the beach, knowing it would be targeted at some point, which it was, so yes if the kids did as they were told they would be alive.
 

crossnote

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Hamas put the Gazan children at risk when they first started firing Missles, when they continued firing missles, when they kept turning down truces, and when they continue to further threaten war against Israel.
THE DEATH OF THOSE CHILDREN LAY DIRECTLY IN THE LAP OF HAMAS, they are a menacing evil for the Gazans. Period.
 

Drett

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Sorry I think I will need to take some time before I reply. This post really caught me by surprise It is a new low.



Hamas put the Gazan children at risk when they first started firing Missles, when they continued firing missles, when they kept turning down truces, and when they continue to further threaten war against Israel.
THE DEATH OF THOSE CHILDREN LAY DIRECTLY IN THE LAP OF HAMAS, they are a menacing evil for the Gazans. Period.
 
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evil Israel for not rolling over and dieing.

how evil
 

Drett

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I think I am done here a while. I think I will go while I still have some humanity.

Nothing further needs to be said. This is clear enough.

In a report issued Wednesday, Human Rights Watch said Israel had repeatedly struck civilians and their property without a clear military purpose and called on it to “end unlawful attacks.”

If it is not clear enough for you then that is your problem not mine.

 
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kayem77

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I don't understand why some Christians blindly support [unbelieving] Israel. We shouldn't be so fast in dismissing accusations of war crimes. Let's not be partial, just like God was not partial to Jews and Gentiles. If there are indeed violations to Human Rights in their attacks on Gaza, let there be an investigation and those responsible be punished. Is Hamas also to blame? Yes I fully believe they are a terrorist group, but that doesn't take away the possibility Israel may also be responsible for unlawful attacks. Christ is the Savior of the Jews and the Gentiles, and until that is not recognized, true peace won't be accomplished here.
 
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jahsoul

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I don't understand why some Christians blindly support [unbelieving] Israel. We shouldn't be so fast in dismissing accusations of war crimes. Let's not be partial, just like God was not partial to Jews and Gentiles. If there are indeed violations to Human Rights in their attacks on Gaza, let there be an investigation and those responsible be punished. Is Hamas also to blame? Yes I fully believe they are a terrorist group, but that doesn't take away the possibility Israel may also be responsible for unlawful attacks. Christ is the Savior of the Jews and the Gentiles, and until that is not recognized, true peace won't be accomplished here.
Because this somehow turned into a religious war against religious Jews and muslims. (while somehow ignoring the Christians living in Gaza..*shrugs*)
 
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You are right Drett. It is heartbreaking to see that child laying there on the beach. When I see that I think of my own children and how devastating it would be for me to lose one of them. My heart breaks when I see a picture like that. What else is sad is that those children's parents stole from them a shot at a decent life filled with love. Instead they are taught from an early age to hate a group of people based on their religious teachings. They are taught that death can be a way of worship if you kill enough of the "pig" jewish people with you.

It's heartbreaking that instead of those parents building schools and soccer fields with the billions of dollars we have given them, they are building bombs and rockets to lob across the border to randomly terrorize, kill and maim. Islam is a religion of death and it is on the move.....it responds to peace overtures with violence and has shown time and time again that it views peace as a weakness to be exploited. Islam has to be met with force, because that is all it understands. If the world would unite against the evil of Islam, it would slink back into its hole and there would be peace. Instead, the world is embracing it...and it's embracing it because the world likes evil...and I know the world likes evil because the bible tells me so.
 

p_rehbein

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this whole thing (both sides) is ugly, sad, and deadly............but most important..........dangerous!!! By that I mean the world wide effects it could have.........
 
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jahsoul

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It's heartbreaking that instead of those parents building schools and soccer fields with the billions of dollars we have given them, they are building bombs and rockets to lob across the border to randomly terrorize, kill and maim.
Here is the thing; the US gives the Palestinians an average of $400 million a year and we give the nation of Israel $3.1 billion, most of which goes towards their military. I think most people have to stop looking at this with the "I Hate Islam" eyes and look at this as, I hate evil, which is present on both sides of this conflict. And if you want to read some messed up religious teachings, I advise you to read the Talmud.
 
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Sirk

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Here is the thing; the US gives the Palestinians an average of $400 million a year and we give the nation of Israel $3.1 billion, most of which goes towards their military. I think most people have to stop looking at this with the "I Hate Islam" eyes and look at this as, I hate evil, which is present on both sides of this conflict. And if you want to read some messed up religious teachings, I advise you to read the Talmud.
We give Israel money to defend themselves because they are surrounded by a billion people who hate them. If we didn't support Israel there would be mass murder. Last time I checked, Israelis weren't strapping bombs on their women and teenagers.
 

crossnote

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Some just dont want to face the fact that radical Islam will not rest until they have rid every Jew out of the land of Israel.
Israel is a tad smaller than the State of New Jersey, while arab territory is oodles the size of tiny Israel.
Yet radical Islam is hell bent on that tiny piece of real estate. Don't give me this moral equivalency stuff...just let Israel (Jewish people) have her piece of land without attacking her and there will be peace.
 

tribesman

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Some just dont want to face the fact that radical Islam will not rest until they have rid every Jew out of the land of Israel...
Let us not think they are content only with jews and Israel. They want to either force convert or kill every non-muslim on earth, if they only could. But who's arming ISIS? Scary stuff.
 

tribesman

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I don't understand why some Christians blindly support [unbelieving] Israel. We shouldn't be so fast in dismissing accusations of war crimes. Let's not be partial, just like God was not partial to Jews and Gentiles. If there are indeed violations to Human Rights in their attacks on Gaza, let there be an investigation and those responsible be punished. Is Hamas also to blame? Yes I fully believe they are a terrorist group, but that doesn't take away the possibility Israel may also be responsible for unlawful attacks. Christ is the Savior of the Jews and the Gentiles, and until that is not recognized, true peace won't be accomplished here.
I don't understand why some christians does not first off support christians in Israel and Gaza/PA.
 

crossnote

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Let us not think they are content only with jews and Israel. They want to either force convert or kill every non-muslim on earth, if they only could. But who's arming ISIS? Scary stuff.
I was trying to put the best construction on it...perhaps not the most realistic one. :)
 
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Here is the thing; the US gives the Palestinians an average of $400 million a year and we give the nation of Israel $3.1 billion, most of which goes towards their military. I think most people have to stop looking at this with the "I Hate Islam" eyes and look at this as, I hate evil, which is present on both sides of this conflict. And if you want to read some messed up religious teachings, I advise you to read the Talmud.
The only evil Israel is doing is...survival.

If Canada and Mexico started lobbing missiles at us, what would we do?

Talk? Appease and when we talk they shoot. When we promise, they break promises. When we give they want more and more all the while wanting all americans dead.

There is evil here and its not Israel, unless you think survival is evil.

Either you want all jews dead for being jews, or you support a nation under attack by almost every other nation on the planet. To me its not religion, its protecting someone from bullies.

Either Israel protects itself or they are dead.

I do not see why that is so hard to comprehend but then a whole nation followed Hitler while he villified and murdered a race of people.
 
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jahsoul

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The only evil Israel is doing is...survival.

If Canada and Mexico started lobbing missiles at us, what would we do?

Talk? Appease and when we talk they shoot. When we promise, they break promises. When we give they want more and more all the while wanting all americans dead.

There is evil here and its not Israel, unless you think survival is evil.

Either you want all jews dead for being jews, or you support a nation under attack by almost every other nation on the planet. To me its not religion, its protecting someone from bullies.

Either Israel protects itself or they are dead.

I do not see why that is so hard to comprehend but then a whole nation followed Hitler while he villified and murdered a race of people.
Starting from the last to first, I will need you to truthfully look at the Zionist influence of the landscape leading up to the Holocaust. All I will say about that is, never let a tragedy (and it was) go to waste.

Now, regarding this survival that you speak of. Let us look at the death count and see who has to focus more on survival. I hate to point this out to you, but the state of israel are the ones looking like bullies. You can say that this isn't about religion, but if you didn't believe the way that you do regarding the religious jew inhabitation of a land that they named Israel, would you still feel like the Palestinians were the bullies. Would you feel that the rogue Hamas is bullying the state of israel's billion dollar military? You make it sound as if that nation was one of the poorest in the world instead of being dang near propped and backed by the US. But truth is, it sounds like some people on this site would love to see all Muslims dead. Little secret; neither one is right with God.
 
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Sorry I think I will need to take some time before I reply. This post really caught me by surprise It is a new low.
How about it is the truth...get over it!