California's 'Gay Birth Certificate' Bill (Give rights to sin & this happens)

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[h=1]California's 'Gay Birth Certificate' Bill[/h]August 29, 2014
Now we have this: AB 1951. This bill will change birth certificates to allow for a gender-neutral option for parents. Gay couples will be able to list both of themselves on the child's birth certificate. California recently did away with the terms "husband" and "wife," because of "SSM," and the lead legislator for that measure said that those terms were outdated and biased. I suppose we can infer the same thing for "mother" and "father." (Full CP article)


California Legislature Website (AB-1951 Full Record)



This bill now moves to atheist governor Jerry Brown's desk for signature. Guaranteed he signs. He's not the stomach for morality.
 

T_Laurich

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From a bill to a law in just 7 months.... That is insane! Kinda shows that they know what they want to pass.

I see no possible future psychological problems for the child in this new law... None what so ever... I mean this is just brilliant. JUST BRILLIANT!



But in all seriousness this shows that our sins have turned God away from this country because we are too proud to repent and refuse to humble ourselves...
 

skipp

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I feel bad for the kids. Children need both a mother and a father.
 
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Can you imagine the mental state of the child raised by parents that designate them gender neutral on their birth certificate?

And what helps propagate this lunacy? Facebook! (Surprised? No) 56 gender identity options for registering members. (LINK)

The California bill was touted as an advance in societal evolution. Moving beyond traditional gender identities. Biology needs to catch up I guess. It's not female, its not male. It's neutral.

"I shall call you, it!" Yep, that'll go over big at the PTA!

Talk about confusion. And then we wonder why parents who always wanted a little girl start to program their little boy into believing he has a girl on his inside. Dressing him like a girl, letting his hair grow, referring to him using female pronouns, etc... And then they go to his kindergarten and demand he have the right to use the little girls restroom, and be identified as "Susie". Because he now believes what he's been told.
And low and behold the legislature in that kids state says, that's right! He has a right to argue for his inner little girl!

And the rest of the biological little girls, that don't want a little boy in their bathroom, their locker room before and after gym, as they progress through the school years, or their showers, well, they'll just have to adjust to seeing a girl with a penis walking around them. Because it's his right to freely express himself as a minority. And the majority that don't appreciate his violating the indecent exposure laws of their state, which weren't repealed prior to giving that now fully grown man the right to continue that exposure in women's facilities, will just have to accept their new label;
Bigot! Intolerant!

Because it's a brave new (perverted) world!
Meanwhile little boy, um, I mean, little girl, if you read that Bible during recess you're going to be suspended. So pay attention because you don't have the right to do that! Because that's offensive and just plain wrong!
 
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I don't think there will be much of California left when God decide to release His full fury on the state. Stay tuned.
 

skipp

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Wait a minute, are they designating the children as being gender neutral on the birth certificate? I thought that was just the parents. That's absolutely insane. Not surprising (this is California, after all) but still insane. Plus psychologically damaging.
 
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Wait a minute, are they designating the children as being gender neutral on the birth certificate? I thought that was just the parents. That's absolutely insane. Not surprising (this is California, after all) but still insane. Plus psychologically damaging.
When the idea of a gender identity on a birth certificate is decreed by the activists that pursued it's revocation as unacceptable, or morally repugnant, the psychological damage is already evident. Anyone who thinks identifying one's self as either male or female should be forbidden at birth by parent's discretion is just a little odd.

Thanks to Facebook those type parents have at least 56 options to use so as to screw up their child's gender identity. And Jerry Brown helped!
 

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It's the end of times, it's all written in the bible.
 
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Male

Female

Is it really that hard to figure out?

When we seek man's knowledge over God's.

sad

Why are there any liberal christians when this insanity exists? amazing
 
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California's 'Gay Birth Certificate' Bill

August 29, 2014
Now we have this: AB 1951. This bill will change birth certificates to allow for a gender-neutral option for parents. Gay couples will be able to list both of themselves on the child's birth certificate. California recently did away with the terms "husband" and "wife," because of "SSM," and the lead legislator for that measure said that those terms were outdated and biased. I suppose we can infer the same thing for "mother" and "father." (Full CP article)


California Legislature Website (AB-1951 Full Record)



This bill now moves to atheist governor Jerry Brown's desk for signature. Guaranteed he signs. He's not the stomach for morality.
No, you can't infer the same thing for mother and father, because that's not what the legislation covers. Obviously, heterosexual couples will be listed as mothers and fathers, and in the UK on birth certificates the terms 'wife' or 'husband' are never used anyway so I don't see an issue with that. My birth certificate lists a mother and father. And the legislation doesn't give parents the right to dictate their child's gender or gender neutrality, it gives the adoptive (presumably gay) parents the right to be named not as father or mother but as 'parent' and 'parent'.

That's it.
 

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no, it should be mother and father. this is what God intended. there is no such natural thing as " gender neutrality". liberal creation.
 

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The abomination in this measure to placate the deviant ab-normal minority of California is reprehensible to the future of the child.
When two Lesbians can put their name on a certificate of birth, where's the sperm donor and their family history come in?
What happens when that child born by surrogate sperm runs into health issues in future? And the fathers familial history is vital to the treatment and diagnosis of said issue in the child?
Where's he to be found? When his name, as responsible sperm donor, isn't permitted to be written into the history of two Lesbians who demanded the selfish right to abrogate God's natural law and presume themselves to be the only mother and mother that now sick child shall ever know?

And of course the same issue goes for the most egregious offense. Two males who claim to be father and father. The female donor of that egg is removed from the child's documented history. Two men will never give birth. So what happens when the children, of Lesbians or homosexual men, wonder where they came from? Who they came from?

The selfishness of the perverse community of homosexuals is obscene. They steal God's rainbow, and for all it means to Christians, to make it the flag that flies and proudly proclaims their abnormal sinful perversions. They steal the term, 'gay', that meant something entirely different than that which now identifies the sexually perverse, while taking offense at the term that rightly describes both perverse genders engaged in deviant behavior; homo-sexual.

And now, they've achieved the success of abrogating unborn children's future so that their natural birth source is eradicated from their birth record.

The next homosexual pride parade should feature a float that has a sign atop it reading: 2016- WE'VE SURPASSED SODOM IN OUR OFFENSES AGAINST GOD AND NATURE!
 

Nautilus

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Male

Female

Is it really that hard to figure out?

When we seek man's knowledge over God's.

sad

Why are there any liberal christians when this insanity exists? amazing
Probably because we dont all blindly follow anything some random group of liberals do. Just like I would hope you don't blindly follow all conservative opinions without first looking into them and making a personal decision. I saw a very similar post on tumblr about how it was damaging to refer to an infant/toddler as he or she before they are old enough to make that decision themselves and I simply thought people who support this are idiots.
 
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I don't have a problem with the bill. If you're a parent who dosent want their kid to be labeled one way or another it dosent bother me. From what I've heard many transsexual people don't feel comfortable with their given gender, so if a parent feels it may benefit not putting one down. I can't say I have a problem with that at all.
 
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Probably because we dont all blindly follow anything some random group of liberals do. Just like I would hope you don't blindly follow all conservative opinions without first looking into them and making a personal decision. I saw a very similar post on tumblr about how it was damaging to refer to an infant/toddler as he or she before they are old enough to make that decision themselves and I simply thought people who support this are idiots.
The problem is this, I hear liberal christians say they are not for abortion or homosexual agendas but these things are the poster children for all liberal thought. The principles found in supporting these two abominations are the support structure for every other liberal ideal.

Liberal christian is an oxymoron.
 

Nautilus

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Supporting secular rights such as gay marriage is not the same as twisting the mentality of a young child by denying any sort of gender identity to them. Gay marriage is once again something that occurs between two consenting adults. This bill leaves decisions to parents that may or may not have lasting mental impacts on a child.
 
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Denying the biology of a male and/or female child and labeling them as something other, because their penis or vagina that constitutes a biological and physiological identity of, male and female respectively, will certainly impact the mentality of a child.

As they grow into a world that uses gender specific pronouns to describe the individual they are, they will not comprehend what "she" or "he" means when they are first forbidden to recognize their sexual organs are what constitute, what warrant, that pronoun usage.

While whatever term the child's parent(s) decide to interject in order to describe their offspring is not in common usage will only serve to confuse the child and serve to make them outcast in a larger world wherein the traditional pronouns are in use.

But of course, that doesn't mean their parents won't sue when those pronouns are invoked so as to force the majority to concede to a new language in order to placate a perverse standard that hopes to re-form traditional values and then traditional grammar.
 
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Here's a potential future outcome of this bill, soon to be law with Brown a Governor of California.
The case of Valeria Jones.

Disgruntled worker who is ‘not a female or a male’ sues for $518,682 over PRONOUNS

An attorney has filed a lawsuit on behalf of a woman who claimed she was damaged because her co-workers referred to her as a woman, even though she “identified” as “gender neutral.” (Full Article)

The employer in that case, and I haven't found an update as yet, made the mistake of hiring this woman after she failed to fully fill out the job application. Ms.Jones did not answer the gender question and identify as either male or female.
That in itself was grounds to dismiss the application. Because it was not a complete application.

Prayerfully that part of this case will forewarn other employers in future. If an employment candidate omits identifying their gender on an application, ignore the application. You're being set up for another Jones case.
 
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It's the end of times, it's all written in the bible.

I'm pretty sure the end times says nothing about California or gender neutral on the birth certificate.

As wackadoo as this stuff is, it's not a trumpet call from the 4 horsemen.


Not every little thing you or I may like is a sign of the apocalypse.

Los Angelas is not the centre of the universe.