It is not safe to be around ANY muslim

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biscuit

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It is a sign for us to beware and remain vigilant and be prepared for Jesus Christ to call us home. Because the Tribulation Period with the Antichrist & False Prophet is right around the corner.

The only thing we can do is pray and prepare ourselves to meet Jesus.
 

Nautilus

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You really should do more research before engaging in your fear-mongering...I got this from the holy bastion of conservatives itself...Foxnews.com

FBI officials are reportedly investigating a beheading at an Oklahoma food distribution center after co-workers said the suspect tried to convert them to Islam after his recent conversion.
The alleged suspect, Alton Nolen, 30, was recently fired from Vaughan Foods in Moore prior to Thursday’s attack. Moore Police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis told KFORthat Nolen drove to the front of the business and struck a vehicle before walking inside. He then attacked Colleen Hufford, 54, stabbing her several times before severing her head. He also stabbed another woman at the plant, 43-year-old Traci Johnson.
Lewis said Mark Vaughan, the company’s chief operating officer and a reserve county deputy, shot Nolen as he was stabbing Johnson, who remains hospitalized in stable condition Friday.
“He’s a hero in this situation,” Lewis told the station. “It could have gotten a lot worse.”
Nolen was apparently attacking employees at random, authorities said. The motive for the attack is unclear, but FBI officials are now reportedly probing whether Nolen’s recent conversion to Islam is somehow linked to the crime.
Lewis said he does not yet know what charges will be filed against Nolen, adding that police are waiting until he's conscious to arrest him. Authorities said he had no prior connection to either woman.
Nolen, according to state corrections records, was convicted in January 2011 of multiple felony drug offenses, assault and battery on a police officer and escape from detention. He was released from prison in March 2013.
Calls seeking comment by FBI officials were not immediately returned.
A Vaughan spokeswoman said the company was "shocked and deeply saddened" by the attack.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.








 
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You really should do more research before engaging in your fear-mongering...I got this from the holy bastion of conservatives itself...Foxnews.com

FBI officials are reportedly investigating a beheading at an Oklahoma food distribution center after co-workers said the suspect tried to convert them to Islam after his recent conversion.
The alleged suspect, Alton Nolen, 30, was recently fired from Vaughan Foods in Moore prior to Thursday’s attack. Moore Police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis told KFORthat Nolen drove to the front of the business and struck a vehicle before walking inside. He then attacked Colleen Hufford, 54, stabbing her several times before severing her head. He also stabbed another woman at the plant, 43-year-old Traci Johnson.
Lewis said Mark Vaughan, the company’s chief operating officer and a reserve county deputy, shot Nolen as he was stabbing Johnson, who remains hospitalized in stable condition Friday.
“He’s a hero in this situation,” Lewis told the station. “It could have gotten a lot worse.”
Nolen was apparently attacking employees at random, authorities said. The motive for the attack is unclear, but FBI officials are now reportedly probing whether Nolen’s recent conversion to Islam is somehow linked to the crime.
Lewis said he does not yet know what charges will be filed against Nolen, adding that police are waiting until he's conscious to arrest him. Authorities said he had no prior connection to either woman.
Nolen, according to state corrections records, was convicted in January 2011 of multiple felony drug offenses, assault and battery on a police officer and escape from detention. He was released from prison in March 2013.
Calls seeking comment by FBI officials were not immediately returned.
A Vaughan spokeswoman said the company was "shocked and deeply saddened" by the attack.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
That is not wall to wall coverage. its a blip on the radar.. Zimmerman was wall to wall cov, That town in MO that rioted cause some cop killed a thug was wall to wall...

Reason this is not Wall to wall. its a black guy and its islam. Now if it was a white man killing because people refused to convert to Christianity then the major networks would interrupt the garbage daytime tv shows and run this story till the dead horse was beat into the ground then the ground would be beat for 10 more weeks.
 

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You really should do more research before engaging in your fear-mongering...I got this from the holy bastion of conservatives itself...Foxnews.com

FBI officials are reportedly investigating a beheading at an Oklahoma food distribution center after co-workers said the suspect tried to convert them to Islam after his recent conversion.
The alleged suspect, Alton Nolen, 30, was recently fired from Vaughan Foods in Moore prior to Thursday’s attack. Moore Police Sgt. Jeremy Lewis told KFORthat Nolen drove to the front of the business and struck a vehicle before walking inside. He then attacked Colleen Hufford, 54, stabbing her several times before severing her head. He also stabbed another woman at the plant, 43-year-old Traci Johnson.
Lewis said Mark Vaughan, the company’s chief operating officer and a reserve county deputy, shot Nolen as he was stabbing Johnson, who remains hospitalized in stable condition Friday.
“He’s a hero in this situation,” Lewis told the station. “It could have gotten a lot worse.”
Nolen was apparently attacking employees at random, authorities said. The motive for the attack is unclear, but FBI officials are now reportedly probing whether Nolen’s recent conversion to Islam is somehow linked to the crime.
Lewis said he does not yet know what charges will be filed against Nolen, adding that police are waiting until he's conscious to arrest him. Authorities said he had no prior connection to either woman.
Nolen, according to state corrections records, was convicted in January 2011 of multiple felony drug offenses, assault and battery on a police officer and escape from detention. He was released from prison in March 2013.
Calls seeking comment by FBI officials were not immediately returned.
A Vaughan spokeswoman said the company was "shocked and deeply saddened" by the attack.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
Yeah!! What wisebeardman said!! I do not trust ANY muslim and I teach my kids the same. Although that is mostly unnecessary as a blind man can see that those who practice the religion of pieces is to be shunned and not trusted.
 

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Yeah!! What wisebeardman said!! I do not trust ANY muslim and I teach my kids the same. Although that is mostly unnecessary as a blind man can see that those who practice the religion of pieces is to be shunned and not trusted.

​Forget about not trusting Muslims! You can't trust ANYONE these days! Except for God, of course..lol :)
 

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2Chronicles 7:14 if My people, who are called by My name, shall humble themselves and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from Heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

Such a simple solution to a complex problem. Maybe we should put it into practice.
 

JesusLives

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Why is it when a people group does some bad, stupid and harmful things to another people group that all of a sudden they ALL are the bad guys? News flash folks - EVERY PEOPLE GROUP insert nationality here have done some bad, stupid harmful things to the other guy.

We live in a wicked sinful world and there are plenty of good Muslim people out there as I know some of them personally. They want what we want - people to love, a roof over their heads, food in the frig and to have happy families.

If you want to point a finger at someone so bad then try satan....he is the one who has run this world into the ground and caused the chaos we all experience right now.

I personally am not a Muslim I am an American Christian with a family that at our family reunion in 2009 looked like a meeting for the United Nations. I love my family as we are not closed minded people and accept the good and the bad that may come along as life keeps rolling by. We accept each other for who we are and we love each other no matter what country we came from. I wish all families could be like mine. I think God wishes that too.
 

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Why is it when a people group does some bad, stupid and harmful things to another people group that all of a sudden they ALL are the bad guys? News flash folks - EVERY PEOPLE GROUP insert nationality here have done some bad, stupid harmful things to the other guy.

We live in a wicked sinful world and there are plenty of good Muslim people out there as I know some of them personally. They want what we want - people to love, a roof over their heads, food in the frig and to have happy families.

If you want to point a finger at someone so bad then try satan....he is the one who has run this world into the ground and caused the chaos we all experience right now.

I personally am not a Muslim I am an American Christian with a family that at our family reunion in 2009 looked like a meeting for the United Nations. I love my family as we are not closed minded people and accept the good and the bad that may come along as life keeps rolling by. We accept each other for who we are and we love each other no matter what country we came from. I wish all families could be like mine. I think God wishes that too.
THIS is the answer to your question:TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks



I defy you to try and read this entire list. Yes it's true there are good and bad in all groups, but to try and compare ANY other group's evil deeds to the evil deeds DAILY committed by muslims IN THE NAME OF their moon god allah is ABSURD!!!
 

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God always wants us to have a loving heart. He also did not give us a Spirit of fear.
Jesus is more powerful then the evil ones. Satan is a defeated foe, along with those he has tempted and blinded.
 
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Why is it when a people group does some bad, stupid and harmful things to another people group that all of a sudden they ALL are the bad guys? News flash folks - EVERY PEOPLE GROUP insert nationality here have done some bad, stupid harmful things to the other guy.

We live in a wicked sinful world and there are plenty of good Muslim people out there as I know some of them personally. They want what we want - people to love, a roof over their heads, food in the frig and to have happy families.

If you want to point a finger at someone so bad then try satan....he is the one who has run this world into the ground and caused the chaos we all experience right now.

I personally am not a Muslim I am an American Christian with a family that at our family reunion in 2009 looked like a meeting for the United Nations. I love my family as we are not closed minded people and accept the good and the bad that may come along as life keeps rolling by. We accept each other for who we are and we love each other no matter what country we came from. I wish all families could be like mine. I think God wishes that too.
I suppose the Koran is also equal in truth to the Bible?
 
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THIS is the answer to your question:TheReligionofPeace - About the List of Islamic Terror Attacks

I defy you to try and read this entire list. Yes it's true there are good and bad in all groups, but to try and compare ANY other group's evil deeds to the evil deeds DAILY committed by muslims IN THE NAME OF their moon god allah is ABSURD!!!
Yes, I totally agree PennEd. We must look at the evil deeds committed regularly by a certain small number of people from a certain group of the population, and then conclude that that all members of that group must be evil. In addition to Muslims, we must add to this frightening list:

- MEN: 1 in 3 women will have been physically assaulted or experienced sexual violence at the hands of their male domestic partners. Many evil men on a regular basis beat up and rape their wives/girlfriends/children in the name of male power and male dominance. All MEN are EVIL.

- WHITE DUDES: According to the Global Terrorism Database, the increase in terrorist attacks last year in the West was due to far-right white Catholics and Neo-Nazis killing in the name of white supremacy. BEWARE of WHITE dudes.

- NFL PLAYERS: Well, you've probably read the news. Ray Rice was an NFL Player. ALL NFL PLAYERS - BAD.

- AMERICANS, AUSTRALIANS, BRITS and citizens of all countries who invaded Iraq (illegally) in 2003: A war that is still dragging on DAILY in the name of freedom and democracy, and has killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims, most of them innocent civilians. ALL of us are evil and responsible for it.

And this list wouldn't be complete without...

- CHRISTIANS: Responsible for the bulk of terrorist attacks on US soil in the last few years in the name of our God, in a holy war against gays, abortionists and liberals. And they continue to harass and threaten other law-abiding citizens. All Christians are EVIL.

Honestly, with so many evil people from different groups I can't decide which group is more evil. Wait... that's kind of the point, isn't it?
 
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Yeah!! What wisebeardman said!! I do not trust ANY muslim and I teach my kids the same. Although that is mostly unnecessary as a blind man can see that those who practice the religion of pieces is to be shunned and not trusted.
I beg to differ. I live in a city inhabited by 8 million Muslims. It is only an extremely small minority of them that are extremists. I do have Muslim neighbours, and I have Muslim friends. True that their religious beliefs are false, according to me. And, I can't believe how blind some of my friends are, but that does not give me a right to point at all them, and think that none of them can be trusted. In fact, in some situations, my Muslim friends have been there for me more than Christians have.

I think we ought to love everyone, regardless of colour, creed, caste, or FAITH. And, to put all Muslims into the category of untrustworthy (because they may turn out to be a terrorist) is not right. Jesus loves them as much as he loves us. And, HE died for them too. Yes, the Bible says to be vary of people. That means to have discernment about ALL people, not just Muslims. So, instead of teaching people to not trust Muslims, it would be more feasible to teach them to trust no one. Christians, Sikhs, Hindus, Jains, Jews, Buddhists included.
 
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"President Barack Obama favorably quoted and praised on Wednesday in his speech before the United Nations a controversial Muslim cleric whose organization has reportedly endorsed the terror group Hamas and supported a fatwa condoning the murder of U.S. soldiers in Iraq."

Obama Praises Muslim Cleric Who Backed Fatwa on Killing of U.S. Soldiers | Washington Free Beacon
Interesting. Had America been invaded by foreign forces, had thousands of their civilians killed in freedom's name, then had to endure over a decade of foreign occupation, during which tens of thousands more innocents died - I can imagine waves of Americans would answer a call to rise up against the invaders, and even view killing them as their duty. Perspective, huh?

When you read the original news source, the fatwa was very specific about not targeting civilians and treating POWs with respect. Sounds reasonable to me. Probably a political misstep on Obama's part, given the strong emotions that people have about their own troops. But the actual views of the Muslim organisation in question aren't particularly shocking, given the nature of the Iraqi invasion at the time.

I don't condone killing either way. But we have to be careful about labelling 'us killing them' as justified and unavoidable, while we label 'them killing us' as murder and terrorism. No one nation has ever had a monopoly on morality, and we shouldn't pretend like there is.
 

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Yes, I totally agree PennEd. We must look at the evil deeds committed regularly by a certain small number of people from a certain group of the population, and then conclude that that all members of that group must be evil. In addition to Muslims, we must add to this frightening list:

- MEN: 1 in 3 women will have been physically assaulted or experienced sexual violence at the hands of their male domestic partners. Many evil men on a regular basis beat up and rape their wives/girlfriends/children in the name of male power and male dominance. All MEN are EVIL.

- WHITE DUDES: According to the Global Terrorism Database, the increase in terrorist attacks last year in the West was due to far-right white Catholics and Neo-Nazis killing in the name of white supremacy. BEWARE of WHITE dudes.

- NFL PLAYERS: Well, you've probably read the news. Ray Rice was an NFL Player. ALL NFL PLAYERS - BAD.

- AMERICANS, AUSTRALIANS, BRITS and citizens of all countries who invaded Iraq (illegally) in 2003: A war that is still dragging on DAILY in the name of freedom and democracy, and has killed hundreds of thousands of Muslims, most of them innocent civilians. ALL of us are evil and responsible for it.

And this list wouldn't be complete without...

- CHRISTIANS: Responsible for the bulk of terrorist attacks on US soil in the last few years in the name of our God, in a holy war against gays, abortionists and liberals. And they continue to harass and threaten other law-abiding citizens. All Christians are EVIL.

Honestly, with so many evil people from different groups I can't decide which group is more evil. Wait... that's kind of the point, isn't it?

I briefly considered answering your lies, inaccuracies, and half-truths point by point til I saw your assessment of American Christians and realized your really not worth conversing with. I pray in Jesus name that God will remove the hate from your heart. Bless you and your family.
 
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I briefly considered answering your lies, inaccuracies, and half-truths point by point til I saw your assessment of American Christians and realized your really not worth conversing with. I pray in Jesus name that God will remove the hate from your heart. Bless you and your family.
PennEd, I think you misunderstood his post. :D He was being sarcastic. To be honest, from the conversations I have had with him, he has pretty much stood for American Christians. His take is to not point to only one group as the EVIL one. Not all Muslims are evil. Every group has some people who are evil.Oh, and he really doesn't like guns.:D

And, since he is family, thank you for your blessings. May God bless you too.

In Christ's love,
Genevieve
 
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I briefly considered answering your lies, inaccuracies, and half-truths point by point til I saw your assessment of American Christians and realized your really not worth conversing with. I pray in Jesus name that God will remove the hate from your heart. Bless you and your family.
PennEd,

Your response gives me great hope. It shows me that you are in fact not one to judge an entire group based on the actions of a relatively few number of people claiming to be followers of the same God. You're right - it was absurd to even think that all American Christians are not to be trusted because of the murders, terror attacks and threats that extremist Christian groups such as the Army of God and Westboro Baptsit Church regularly carry out.

Just as absurd as claiming that it's not safe to trust or be around any Muslim because of the murders, terror attacks and threats than an extremist Islamic group such as IS regularly carry out.

I eagerly accept and thank you for your prayers. As a Christian, I am the first to acknowledge the ease at which my human prejudices and sinful nature can tempt me towards thinking that my enemies are other people (be they Muslims, Christians, NFL players or white supremacists), when really the enemy is Satan. May we all be reminded to treat the Muslims we come across with the love and respect befitting of Christ's name - not with double standards of prejudice and contempt we would scarce foist upon ourselves.
 
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Did you really say this Roamer?

"- CHRISTIANS: Responsible for the bulk of terrorist attacks on US soil in the last few years in the name of our God, in a holy war against gays, abortionists and liberals. And they continue to harass and threaten other law-abiding citizens. All Christians are EVIL."

^ If you did, it's important for you to understand that every single piece of information in your statement is wrong. You can start by visiting the RAND Database of Worldwide Terrorism Incidents (RDWTI).

The FBI's most recent national threat assessment for domestic terrorism is also applicable though unfortunately, homegrown Islamic groups were whitewashed from the report presumably on orders from the white house and makes no reference to domestic Islamist terror threats; despite last year’s Boston Marathon bombing and the 2009 Fort Hood shooting—both of which were carried out by radical Muslim Americans.

The groups both databases state were primarily responsible for domestic terrorism in the U.S. (with the FBI deliberately omitting home grown Islamic terrorist groups) were: anti-government militia groups, separatist racial extremists (both black, brown, and white), “sovereign citizen” nationalists, anarchists, violent animal rights and environmentalist extremists, anti- and pro-abortion activists, and Puerto Rican nationalists.

"Christians" were hardly a blip on the radar and not one was a genuine Christian spiritually reborn into the Kingdom of God conforming their life to the teachings of Jesus Christ whom they made the Lord of their life displaying the true mark of a genuine Christian which are the fruits of the Holy Spirit (e.g. love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control)... not a single one.

And obviously, refusing to facilitate immorality when ordered to do so by an immoral person does not constitute a "holy war." But it can be argued that immoral people are waging an unholy war against Christians in this country today and seeking to use the government to do it.

It's sad that so many in your generation have been deceived to the extent you have with respect to both the facts and the truth.