Glaciers, Wars and Children

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Rachel20

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“I’m tired,” she says.
Reading Vonnegut all day
She’s a hipster, well
So is he with his tight jeans
Lets talk, of blood
That is on the kitchen floor
They’re vegan, nope
But she had an abortion so,
We’ll call it war
She hurts when he ignores her
And it feels cold
She’s not eating staying thin
Like money so
Let’s not be in love no more
He calls her up,
She’s in bed with another soul
His heart is torn,
Just as much as her that day
So it goes, life
Glaciers and wars of a kind
Every time, kill child
This time move on to Tolstoy,
You and I know
It’s not going to stop them



About the Poem

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The poem depicts a couple who are hipsters, anti-war, (even vegans) but in their own way fighting a war among themselves.
Glaciers and wars is a reference to Vonnegut’s writing in Slaughterhouse Five, where Harrison Starr says, “Why don’t you write an anti-glacier book instead?”… because wars are as easy to stop as glaciers.​

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I read Kurt Vonnegut in my youth. Slaughterhouse Five was the first one that I read and probably the best. So it goes.
 
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i'm suddenly very, very sad.

which tells me i just read something exceptional. ♥
 
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Rachel20

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psychomom said:
i'm suddenly very, very sad.

which tells me i just read something exceptional. ♥
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Ellie,

Thank you so much for reading it. I always look forward to how you feel about it and the fact that it makes you sad tells me in a way I succeeded in provoking a reaction which is what we all want I suppose... :) (except I would not want you to be sad ever)


The poem is not just anti-war, it's anti human lol.

It's anti everything.

I am very satisfied by that message because honestly when is anything that we've ever done or established ever perfect?

I find that there is no such standard of perfection and even at the heart of religion, I've been wrestling with the idea of perfection that would be from God.

It's a personal struggle but there are always questions that we as Christians don't have completely reasonable answers to - like why is there suffering in this world? etc.

Why does God in all His perfection require the caveats of a sacrifice for sin ? Where are such moral laws and rules established?


So coming to the context of the poem - it is very cynical. It is tragic. It is two people unable to love one another and two people suffering despite a united cause.

I think of all the people who've come from broken families... watched parents come and go. My heart breaks for children who go/have gone through that.

It's always children who get hurt and then they become adults with hurts and wounds who hurt one another...the cycle goes on.

How hard is it really to love someone? To see them just as they are and to love them that way... what is such a bond which would make you hold on to someone and never let them go?

As depressing as it all is I hope the poem begins a question in people's hearts for a more truer love, a more perfect one.

The challenge for us as Christians is just that - to love one another.
(and if we loved one another we would not want war or suffering on another human being)

No matter the questions that spring to my mind, the one thing I can't wrest from me is the surety of a God who watches over me.

I also don't doubt despite the hardships and suffering that He is good.
He is after all love.




PS - Ellie, I love you ♥
 
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how hard is it to really love someone?

impossible. for us, it is completely impossible.

only when God does the loving through us do we ever love another, er, on the real
(as my 20 yo would say :)).

i feel confident every child, whether or not they come from a broken family, is in some way broken.
despite the fact parents, on the main, love their children....
those parents are already broken and sin-sick. we keep renewing this from generation to generation.

and i hate to be too cheerful lol, but The Day will come when it all stops.
that's the Hope we live in, and live for, right? :)
that promised, actual, not wishful-thinking but certain Hope.
that Day all our doubts and fears and questions cease forever.

i love you, Rachel. ♥

ps--don't even get me started on wars! mommas don't like 'em!
actually...could it be women in general who don't? (honest question)
still....selfish seems to be what they boil down to?
 
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psychomom said:
how hard is it to really love someone?

impossible. for us, it is completely impossible.

only when God does the loving through us do we ever love another, er, on the real
(as my 20 yo would say :)).

i feel confident every child, whether or not they come from a broken family, is in some way broken.
despite the fact parents, on the main, love their children....
those parents are already broken and sin-sick. we keep renewing this from generation to generation.

and i hate to be too cheerful lol, but The Day will come when it all stops.
that's the Hope we live in, and live for, right? :)
that promised, actual, not wishful-thinking but certain Hope.
that Day all our doubts and fears and questions cease forever.

i love you, Rachel. ♥

ps--don't even get me started on wars! mommas don't like 'em!
actually...could it be women in general who don't? (honest question)
still....selfish seems to be what they boil down to?
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I agree with you totally. :)



You are very wise.

You prodded me in a better direction.


Much love and thank you for taking the time for putting this down.

♥


PS - About the wars... well most of the time it's always someone else's war. I believe women of God (especially mommas) stand strong at the time of war for their families.

I know because I see my own mother always praying for me and how both my parents have sacrificed for me. :)
 
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Okay....I am also a writer. Barnes & Noble has my book. Obviously, you have a natural talent. Here is my challenge to you, personally. Why not, in your short time here on earth, seek the Holy SPIRIT's touch and annointing as you write your poems? Sincerely use this as YOUR ministry to reach others for JESUS CHRIST. Let your words and expressions reflect and show JESUS to this world. Some people will respond to HIM, through YOUR writings that do NOT attend church or flock to revival meetings, etc. Always give GOD the glory for your awesome works of art, instead of Vonnegut or Tolstoy. Why not infiltrate GOD so much into the MIX that people will, after reading your words, entertain the thought and message of CHRIST until they have to make a decision. THAT is powerful and it can happen...if the holy spirit is allowed to flow through you, down your arm, into your hands as you type and write out what HE would have you to say. Does this make sense to you? Your talent is obvious. Focus on using it as your MISSION, something you can hold up into the face of JESUS and be proud that you wrote it. Make each poem count for CHRIST and not a fleeting emotion or political stance or way to ventilate your own feelings. 100 yrs from now, this hypster poem will never be remembered by anyone. However, if the Holy SPIRIT's touch was upon this, HIS WORDS will never be in vain and they will carry eternal value always.
 
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pwrnJC said:
Okay....I am also a writer. Barnes & Noble has my book. Obviously, you have a natural talent. Here is my challenge to you, personally. Why not, in your short time here on earth, seek the Holy SPIRIT's touch and annointing as you write your poems? Sincerely use this as YOUR ministry to reach others for JESUS CHRIST. Let your words and expressions reflect and show JESUS to this world. Some people will respond to HIM, through YOUR writings that do NOT attend church or flock to revival meetings, etc. Always give GOD the glory for your awesome works of art, instead of Vonnegut or Tolstoy. Why not infiltrate GOD so much into the MIX that people will, after reading your words, entertain the thought and message of CHRIST until they have to make a decision. THAT is powerful and it can happen...if the holy spirit is allowed to flow through you, down your arm, into your hands as you type and write out what HE would have you to say. Does this make sense to you? Your talent is obvious. Focus on using it as your MISSION, something you can hold up into the face of JESUS and be proud that you wrote it. Make each poem count for CHRIST and not a fleeting emotion or political stance or way to ventilate your own feelings. 100 yrs from now, this hypster poem will never be remembered by anyone. However, if the Holy SPIRIT's touch was upon this, HIS WORDS will never be in vain and they will carry eternal value always.
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how nice of you to leave a comment. :)

may i suggest you read more of what Rachel has written?
and perhaps try to see into what she writes a bit more, too?

i mean, think about the Bible.... it ain't all fun and games, right? :)
even God has written sad things to us. sadness is part of this life we live here,
and the Most High is gracious to let us know we're not alone in that.

perhaps Vonnegut won't be remembered in a hundred years,
but Rachel uses her talent for the glory of the Lord.

just what i'm thinking here. :)
 
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pwrnJC said:
Okay....I am also a writer. Barnes & Noble has my book. Obviously, you have a natural talent. Here is my challenge to you, personally. Why not, in your short time here on earth, seek the Holy SPIRIT's touch and annointing as you write your poems? Sincerely use this as YOUR ministry to reach others for JESUS CHRIST. Let your words and expressions reflect and show JESUS to this world. Some people will respond to HIM, through YOUR writings that do NOT attend church or flock to revival meetings, etc. Always give GOD the glory for your awesome works of art, instead of Vonnegut or Tolstoy. Why not infiltrate GOD so much into the MIX that people will, after reading your words, entertain the thought and message of CHRIST until they have to make a decision. THAT is powerful and it can happen...if the holy spirit is allowed to flow through you, down your arm, into your hands as you type and write out what HE would have you to say. Does this make sense to you? Your talent is obvious. Focus on using it as your MISSION, something you can hold up into the face of JESUS and be proud that you wrote it. Make each poem count for CHRIST and not a fleeting emotion or political stance or way to ventilate your own feelings. 100 yrs from now, this hypster poem will never be remembered by anyone. However, if the Holy SPIRIT's touch was upon this, HIS WORDS will never be in vain and they will carry eternal value always.
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I believe that Rachel already has a handle in the way that she uses her talent. How do you know whether of not this particular piece of prose will not be remembered 100 years from now? She writes what is in her heart and on her mind. What you have suggested will put restraints on her work. It will then be sugar and spice and everything nice but then but no one will want to read it. She would have lost her edge.
 
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Rachel20

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pwrnJC said:
Okay....I am also a writer. Barnes & Noble has my book. Obviously, you have a natural talent. Here is my challenge to you, personally. Why not, in your short time here on earth, seek the Holy SPIRIT's touch and annointing as you write your poems? Sincerely use this as YOUR ministry to reach others for JESUS CHRIST. Let your words and expressions reflect and show JESUS to this world. Some people will respond to HIM, through YOUR writings that do NOT attend church or flock to revival meetings, etc. Always give GOD the glory for your awesome works of art, instead of Vonnegut or Tolstoy. Why not infiltrate GOD so much into the MIX that people will, after reading your words, entertain the thought and message of CHRIST until they have to make a decision. THAT is powerful and it can happen...if the holy spirit is allowed to flow through you, down your arm, into your hands as you type and write out what HE would have you to say. Does this make sense to you? Your talent is obvious. Focus on using it as your MISSION, something you can hold up into the face of JESUS and be proud that you wrote it. Make each poem count for CHRIST and not a fleeting emotion or political stance or way to ventilate your own feelings. 100 yrs from now, this hypster poem will never be remembered by anyone. However, if the Holy SPIRIT's touch was upon this, HIS WORDS will never be in vain and they will carry eternal value always.
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Thank you for the compliment on my writing and talent.

I do not consider myself a poet or a writer per se. I do write as an outlet and channel for pent up energy/feelings/whatever and this act itself is a testament to the glory of God because He created me that way.

All of my abilities reflect the glory of God - just the act of living itself is by God's grace.

I certainly do not give anyone else credit for that.

I do not write for immortality either. I think we are accountable for ALL of our actions and nothing is hidden from God. Just because something is not remembered by us doesn't mean it is forgotten by God.

I appreciate your push and urge for me to write for Jesus and making it my mission. I love Jesus truly. My life is entirely His and I will let God lead me to do whatever He wants me to do.

Like psychomom said, I do hope you read more of my writing and I hope you enjoy them. Thanks for reading this.


God bless.
 
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