Thank you Lord... for saying "no"?

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Anyone who is a parent or spends significant amounts of time with very young children (teachers, daycare providers, etc) can tell you that children ask for A LOT of things. Often times, however, what they ask for is either not in their best interest, or it could just be the wrong time. (ex: "Mommy, can I have a cookie?" "Not right now, sweetheart, I don't want you to spoil your appetite for dinner")

Likewise, though our Heavenly Father delights in providing for our needs and blessing us with good things, sometimes He may say "no" or "not yet" in response to one of our requests. When we're right there in the moment, we may feel like He has denied us something that we need, or we may wonder why "God isn't answering our prayers" (when in fact, He has, he just didn't give us the answer we want).

I've spoken with people who have been in a relationship with the Lord for a very long time, and one thing I've learned is that when God doesn't say "yes" to certain requests, it is actually a form of grace and mercy. When we're in the moment we often fail to realize that what we've asked for may not be what's best for us, or if it is a good thing, the timing may just not be right.

What about you? Can you recall a time in your past when you asked the Lord for something and He responded with "no" or "not yet", and you later realized that this was in fact a blessing?

I'll start. When I was 17 I met a young man who liked me and pursued me pretty aggressively. While we never entered an "official" exclusive relationship (I wasn't allowed to date until after graduating high school), we did spend a lot of time together in groups (and also a little time alone together -- bad plan) and talked a lot on the phone. I remember praying that someday soon I'd get approval from my parents to date this guy, because I liked him a lot. That approval never came, because my parents could see red flags in his character to which I was completely blind. I rebelled and accused my parents of being too strict. What was the big deal? He was a nice, attractive guy who liked me. I was eager to experience my first relationship, and I wanted it now. I wondered why God wasn't orchestrating this situation to work out according to what I wanted.

As it turns out, I later discovered some of the red flags that my parents had seen, and then some. I found out he had a drinking problem, had no substance to his faith (attended church but didn't actually believe anything) and I learned first hand that he had physically abusive tendencies. It took a life-threatening situation for me to finally understand that this guy wasn't as "nice" as I once thought. I ended that friendship/psuedo relationship and never looked back. I escaped a potentially horrible future and I was overcome with thankfulness as I later realized that the Lord was protecting me by denying my prayer request. Now, I'm engaged to a man who has a deep and genuine love for the Lord ...and for me.

Thank you Lord for saying "no"!
 

cinder

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oooooo. This is the perfect opportunity to post a song.

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I wrote something about that a while ago. I even used the cookie analogy. :)

http://christianchat.com/christian-poems-poetry/98793-lynx-thinks.html#post1679752

Love it. :) It's a fascinating concept, isn't it? I admit it can be pretty hard to swallow when we're in the thick of a rough spot in our lives. This is one of those things that I love to chat with older Christians about. Learning from their experiences and hearing about how the Lord has moved in their lives is so encouraging.

PS - High five for cookie analogies!
 

Lynx

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Did she just call me old... and make it sound like a compliment? :confused:

Just kidding, just kidding!
 
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HA!

That's funny, I didn't realize it sounded like that -- I wasn't even talking about you, silly Lynx ^_^

I was hoping to get some conversation flowing on this topic because I've literally been obsessing over it for the past 3 days. A good friend of mine (and my best friend's husband) has really been grappling with his faith. He's been asking lots of really hard questions on God, how he views His children, and how (if at all) He answers prayers. My fiance and I have been having lots of fellowship on the subject and have been trying to reach out to my friend and discuss his questions. We're doing out best not to approach it in a way that makes it seem like we have all the answers and we're trying to teach him something. We're just trying to give him a safe place to bounce his questions off of and maybe share our perspectives too. Anyway, based on the way he's been wording a lot of his comments, it makes me feel like he may view God as a high-and-mighty big guy in the sky who doesn't really care about our lives. He also questioned why God says "yes" to some requests and "no" to others.

It just got me thinking about what it means when God says "no"/"wait", and also about the nature of our requests.
 
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Loveneverfails, my situation is somewhat similar to yours. I had been praying and praying that things would work out between me and this guy i was dating. I really liked him a lot, and he was a ''christian,'' but other people around me were starting to see things pretty early on that i couldn't. You didn't tell him no, he didn't comprehend the word and he was pretty aggressive in general. I figured he was a christian though so how bad could that really be.
My friends and my mom would try to tell me they had a bad feeling about him, but i ignored it. And while i was praying that things would work out between him and i, God was trying to get my attention and tell me, No, not a good idea. I refused to listen to anyone and any reason, so God let me find out the tough way who this guy really was. He let me go through a really bad experience to spare me a life of them.

I've had other situations in which God has given me the answer of no, but none have been more effective in teaching me when God says no, it means no.
 

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I also have a thank you God for saying no story... turns out this guy was a double minded man who was (and still is ) unstable in all his ways.
 
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First time I poked my head in this thread was 15 minutes after I read this in a devotional book:

Someday we will understand that God has a reason behind every no He gives us through the course of our lives. Yet even in this life, He always makes it up to us. When God's people are worried and concerned that their prayers are not being answered, how often we have seen Him working to answer them in a far greater way! Occasionally we catch a glimpse of this, but the complete revelation of it will not be seen until later.... Even if we confine our thinking to this life, it is true that God never touches the heart with a trail without intending to give a greater gift or compassionate blessing.


^Hoping that didn't come off as Charismatic-ishy!lol God wants to bless us. The bible tells us that pretty clearly. Sometimes we just do a good job of getting in the way of Him showing the love He has for us. Everything seems justifiable these days- even when it's denying God's blessings in our own lives because we don't think we deserve them.:(
 

Roh_Chris

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I am grappling with this issue in my life. So it would be nice to read everyone's thoughts about it.

Thank you Lynx for the cookie analogy. :)
 
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This reminds me of something my stepdad said shortly before he died. He had finally accepted Christ during his illness.

"I know that everyone at church is praying that God will heal me, but I know that if He did, I would probably go back to being the jerk I used to be".

To him, his terminal illness/NOT being healed was a blessing. He understood that his salvation was the better gift.

That "please save them, Lord, whatever it takes" prayer for others is very difficult to pray for me still, but this helped a lot.

Isaiah 57:1 The righteous perish, and no one takes it to heart; the devout are taken away, and no one understands that the righteous are taken away to be spared from evil.
 
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Grumpy cat approves this thread!

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So many things in my life I have prayed desperately for and God has denied them, or else made me wait until such time as I was more prepared to accept such a blessing.

I'm learning first-hand how hard it is to say no to a dearly loved child who wants something so badly- when that child comes to me, knowing that I have the ability to give him what he asks for, when he comes to me smiling and without any fear or thought that I might say no, and he asks so politely...

Getting the word 'no' to come out of my mouth at that point is a miracle.

I can only imagine how much more heart breaking it must be for God, to have so many of His children requesting things they are so sure they need, coming to Him in faith, pouring their hearts out to Him and asking please, please just grant me this one thing...

It certainly makes me regret the times I've thrown tantrums over not having my prayers answered the way I wanted, the years I spent being angry at God for not blessing me with a child when He knew how badly I wanted one. So many times I've taken His "Not now" as "Never", or His "No" as "You don't deserve this", and wound up angry and feeling like I didn't matter.

But it turned out, there were always reasons that God didn't give me what I wanted every time I asked. In some cases, like others here, I'd find out later that a person I prayed to be with would turn out to be dangerous in some way. In some cases, the timing of what I asked for was all wrong. In some cases, I was being rebellious and self-serving and unable to appreciate the blessings I already had, so maybe God waited for me to knock it off...who knows? But I am grateful, at this point, for every No or Not Yet, because I've learned and grown far more from having to accept those answers than I would have from getting immediately what it was I asked for.


 

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I can relate to this thread tonight, because with our daughter getting married and with the holidays coming up, there need to be some conversations between me and my ex. This is very difficult, not because there is no cordiality, but because his mother, sister, and some coworkers will undoubtedly get a mocking review of our conversation. It just makes me feel vulnerable to have to confide in him when I have experienced betrayal, mocking, and two-facedness so many times in conversations that I believed were confidential--even while married. Things would get twisted, I would be misrepresented, there would be unfair criticism of me, and basically there was no leaving and cleaving. It is hard to be vulnerable again. But there are important family events that call for some communication beforehand. And there is always my overwhelming sense of loneliness after 30 years of marriage that my vulnerability shows. The one comfort that helps is that God knows how it was and He would not desire me to go back to that. I know this but the loneliness hit me tonight and I didn't hide it as well as I would have liked. But I keep returning to the fact that God brought me out of that situation, and I need to be grateful.
 
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This is one of the tough ones, huh? Especially when it comes to people. People you love. Sometimes we love people even though that little voice tells us it is not a good idea, for whatever reason. The heart wants what the heart wants.

There are people who may stress us out.
People who may expose us to things we know to be dangerous for us.
People who may have too many issues of their own to be ready to be there for anyone else.
People who are too selfish to be in a relationship.
People who are abusive.
People who may profess Christianity, but have little or no understanding thereof.
People who may lead us away from Christ. Away from peace. Away from blessing. Away from sanity. Away from friends and family.
People who may not be strong enough or mature enough to develop/sustain a godly relationship. When the going gets tough and you need to lean on them for a season, they can't handle it.

We know these things. We see them. We may even be honest enough to tell the person these things.

AND GOD SAYS NO.

But then....we also see...or WANT to see...the good in those same people. Things we love about them. The potential. It's so easy to convince ourselves that if we just pray enough, are patient and loving enough, God can heal the situation. We may even convince ourselves that God wants to use us to do that. What a noble romantic notion it is to become a martyr for love's sake.

And the whole time God is still saying no.

We often disagree. Strongly disagree. And it hurts like crazy because you know what you feel is real. What the other person feels may be real to them as well, so it becomes even more difficult to understand why you keep hitting the wall.

But I love what Lynx said above. It's what most of us already know deep down in our knowers: God never asks us to release a thing (or person) without giving us something far better.

Who knows. Maybe the answer IS wait. Either way, God knows best. Not recognizing that is one of the most self-destructive things ever. So, the answer is what the answer ALWAYS is: Trust God. Be still and know that He is God, whether the answer is "no" or "wait".
 

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I also have a thank you God for saying no story... turns out this guy was a double minded man who was (and still is ) unstable in all his ways.
God has been saying NO my entire life. I really do not know what Yes is. lol...
 

OnThisRock

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Can someone post a picture of the grumpy cat. I love that CAT!!!