Obligated to get Married

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ChristianGuru

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Before I signed up, I've taken the time to read a few of the threads here in the singles forum. I keep hearing the same theme over and over again. When will God show me my future spouse? When will I get married? Will I ever get married? When I get into a relationship, meet a Godly man or woman?

It's been through years of testing, praying, studying, self-educating, troubleshooting, going out, meeting everyone, church hopping, church visiting, dating, that I've collected quite a bit of information and knowledge about being single as a Christian.

I went from clueless to highly-understanding in a five year journey that came full circle in the summer of 2009. That began and ended with the same girl, even though we never were bf/gf or got married. A journey filled with many girls and multi-layered subplots in between.

I was a christian single living at college at the start of the last decade. By mid-decade I was exhausted from being a lone Christian taking on a world of unbelievers. I returned to my home church and met a young woman a year older than me. We dated when she showed incredible interest... we went out once, but amazingly she ended it right there. Simple right? No..

The whole situation was overblown by my then drive that she was my "future wife" and to me I had just been rejected by my "future wife". At age 21 (I'm now 26) the world had ended.

The idea was of a Christian kids perception of being a Christian. A kid trying to find a "future wife" for no reason other than obligation. I acted like it was a right. I imposed this belief on her. I've come to understand that marriage isn't a right. It's something two people who've connected do. You don't do it just to do it. You don't rush into it. It's not something you earn. It's not a reward. It's just two people with passion and love for one another.

I've made plently of Christian friends at multiple churches from 2005-2009. I always hear all this talk about "future" this and "future" that. It almost always comes from the most hopelessy single Christians. The future isn't even present yet. I've gone out on dates with 5 girls in 4 years. I've seen three of these girls go on and marry other guys. Such is life. I've seen other girls still single years after our date. They've turned me down, then continue to complain about being single. Such is life. They've come running back to me when I've moved on, but I've lost interested. Such is life.

As a Christian, we may think life is supposed to just work itself out. It doesn't. It's ordinary. We all breathe and have to eat to survive. In 2008, I learned life is as real as it seems. I began living like it.

A christian friend of mind got married in the past year, and his best man is one of my better friends. It was horrorfying to here his speech be about how GOD choose to bless the groom before him with a wife. I was amazed to hear mostly everyone laughing along with his joke, while the groom, the bride, a few others and myself stood their utterly depressed as we were stunned. Did he just blame God for being single? He really believes God is holding him back? This guy is basically saying God choose his friend to get married before him.

Truly the difference was the Groom took the initiative in dating. While the Best Man has long been a passive hesitator. Always crying about being single. He had a girl very interested in him, two years earlier. A woman who believes every Christian guy she meets is her "future husband", after her brief round of me being her "future husband" faded when I wasn't returning her calls, she soon turned her sights to him. Her body language proclaimed "Marry me!" but he was passive, and more passive, too much time asking internal questions and she gave up.

Come year's end, she had a boyfriend, church pretty boy. Our dear passive hesitating friend was the first one to walk over and congratulate him... (all this visible to everyone on a church night) on dating... and on how he felt great about how God was choosing him to be with her instead... a month later, they broke up.

The point was why make such a big deal out of nothing? Dating is common and so is Marriage. Why is it made to be an absurd die hard of a drama.? Our dear friend is still single to this day, and is still getting set up on dates from what I understand. His friends the bride and groom doing 100% of the scouting and recruiting, and poorly might I add.

For me, I ran into the "future wife" I initially spoke of this past summer during a concert. I didn't talk to her husband, and he didn't look at me, :cool: I think he resented me actually. We greeted and that was about it. You'd think I would've felt all chump inside. She's married and I'm single all of these years later. I really didn't. I felt really self-assured with myself and honestly felt 100% certain I could do better than her, even though she's a great girl.

What's 100% better? Looks. Yes, it is. That and the entire makeup of a woman. Yes, that's correct. I reserve the right to have my preferences met and needs fulfilled. Vice versa. I refuse to deny that which I desire.

I've heard horror stories from Christians that God is going to :eek: sneak up on us :eek: with a "future spouse" we won't like or be attracted too. I say run from that person then. We don't have to get married if we don't want too. Stop feeling obligated. Our passive hesitating friend is often ridiculed for exactly this by another one of our friends... who always points out woman he wouldn't be interested in and jokingly proclaiming "that's your future wife" to which he says "heck no" to.

It's like many of us are always praying for a "future spouse", but incredibly fearing a person we won't like becoming our "future spouse" at the same time. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. I've said this over and over and it's like many Christians refuse to accept this fact. They feel forced into everything they do. They feel forced to serve. God made getting saved a choice. You made a choice when you made that decision.
 
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thanks for this post, one of the reasons why I don't like the idea of the future spouse business. I've learnt that a person is not your future spouse until they are your present spouse,
 
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greatkraw

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yeah there are waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many things in that post that I relate to

thanks
 
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I had a thought, perhaps the idea of future spouse etc and being forced into it comes from Calvinism :).

I know what puts women off me personally, it's my superior intellect and incredible physique, I'm also one of the most humble guys around. Unfortunately others can't see it...
 

Karelia

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Thank you for this post, ChristianGuru! I'm not single but what you wrote applies to so many other things in life as well. This is one of the wisest postings on this forum, you are a fine young man and I wish you all the best!
 
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heart4him

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that post was way too long to read
 
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OreoSoleil

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You make plenty of valid points -- I"ve never really believed in a future spouse. I am sort of dealing with that with my ex --- it also seems to be a maturity level. One ready to take the chance and another not willing to take a risk. I'm not sure this view has anything to do with calvinism -- forordination of our salvation is spoken of in Romans and throughout the Bible. But I believe many misinterpret its meaning. The point is -- that we can never do anything deserving for anything good from God --- meaning God is in total control. But we are repsonisible for our choices -- Romans 9 -- speaks very clearly of Him showing mercy on those he chooses-- meaning we should be grateful for the gift God has given us.

I know I have taken being a Christian lightly in my life -- it has lead me to relationships that were not things God wanted. I've never dated around and i am pretty old fashioned and keep guys at a friend level for a while. Something has hit me lately while being single -- God has me here to live for Him --not my selfish desires or wants. My heart desires to have a man who loves God above anything and that would love to share a life with me. But I know -- that is not something I can attain -- it will have to be in God's timing. I am done trying to make things happen --- that's where dying everyday to God comes in. Jesus should be the center of all things we do -- He is the only one who can bring the one he's chosen to us -- if that is even wants.

I don't know if God intends on allowing me to get married or having the perfect Christian family : )-- but I do see God is interested in my relationship with Him and I have so much to learn. To be honest --having a guy in my life, unless he was encouraging me spiritually -- it wouldn't be the best right now. I need someone who brings me closer to God --not just someone i desire. Guys ask me out-- it encouraging and I thank God for making me feel attractive -- but unless they really seek God -- or God draws them closer to Him.

I just see God in a different light now -- I don't ever want to fall away from God and into my desires again. Sometimes we search for the things that really aren't best for us -- I know I'm guilty of that. This life is to prepare me for eternity with God -- it will be all about God there--sort of shows us, our lives here are not about us.
 
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lightbliss

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Perhaps your friend, being Christian, should know that when the time is right the Lord will bring the women into his life in which he is supposed to be with. There is a reason a person is single. Growth. While waiting for the Lord to bring you someone, one should focus on bettering himself and growing in the Lord. This is just a season, everything happens for a reason. If you're not happy with what you have, how can you be happy with what you don't have? Make the most of it and enjoy this part of your life, once you're married you're married for life (it is God's way). Also, fasting and praying about exactly what you want (in a spouse or other things) also helps, ya know: ask and you shall receive, but you have to put God first. God isn't God to please man and give him every and any thing he wants. God's blessings all work out for HIS his plan and HIS glorification, not for man. So just live in the Lord, before you know it, you'll be blessed (whatever it is), but only if its for God.
 
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greatkraw

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But I know -- that is not something I can attain -- it will have to be in God's timing. I am done trying to make things happen --- that's where dying everyday to God comes in. Jesus should be the center of all things we do -- He is the only one who can bring the one he's chosen to us -- if that is even wants.

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we all need to learn this lesson
 
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lightbliss

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There is a reason a person is single. Growth. While waiting for the Lord to bring you someone, one should focus on bettering himself and growing in the Lord.
Alot of singles want to get married, so they rush (sometimes into a bad relationship and with the wrong person), when maybe they're to get married later in life. Also, I don't recall any scripture stating that everyone will get married (regardless if you're totally faithful to the Lord or not), all we can do is hope, pray, fast and fellowship (you'd meet other singles). Everyone is not meant to be married. God's plan doesn't include that everyone be married (some will but not all), but to serve him. So pray that the Lord has someone for you and also pray to be content if he doesn't ;)
 
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Vidy

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1 Corinthians 7-- read it

The Bible says it is better for a man or woman to NOT get married so that they can focus on God, and you should only marry if you feel it's necessary.

I know how ya feel about choosing who you're with lol. I personally think I've gotten everything I want in my current girlfriend. She is intelligent, beautiful, has close ties with my family, is respectful (though her parents don't think so lol), and most of all, she loves me back <3 If something happens between us, i honestly don't think I'll be able to find any better.

But I fully agree with you. Don't cling to everyone you see at first sight and expect them to marry you one day. Love is something that grows over a period of at least a couple of years, and then will continue to develop after the marriage. Like the professionals say- Marriage isn't for everyone ~_o
 
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Dread_Zeppelin

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All I can say is wow. This was the most real post I've read in a very long time. I'm very impressed.
 
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lil-rush

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I've heard horror stories from Christians that God is going to :eek: sneak up on us :eek: with a "future spouse" we won't like or be attracted too. I say run from that person then. We don't have to get married if we don't want too. Stop feeling obligated. Our passive hesitating friend is often ridiculed for exactly this by another one of our friends... who always points out woman he wouldn't be interested in and jokingly proclaiming "that's your future wife" to which he says "heck no" to.

It's like many of us are always praying for a "future spouse", but incredibly fearing a person we won't like becoming our "future spouse" at the same time. You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. I've said this over and over and it's like many Christians refuse to accept this fact. They feel forced into everything they do. They feel forced to serve. God made getting saved a choice. You made a choice when you made that decision.
Your whole thread was good, but these last two paragraphs are amazing in their simplicity. It seems so obvious when you say it, but it is not something I would have ever thought of on my own. I'm always thinking "what if this" and "what if that," but as you pointed out, I don't have to marry the guy when/if I meet him. That's good stuff.
 
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1 Corinthians 7-- read it

The Bible says it is better for a man or woman to NOT get married so that they can focus on God, and you should only marry if you feel it's necessary.
Paul also said in that same book that such a mantra was his own, personal opinion, and that he had no direct command from God on the matter. He also said that marriage, in and of itself, is not a sin.

I know how ya feel about choosing who you're with lol. I personally think I've gotten everything I want in my current girlfriend. She is intelligent, beautiful, has close ties with my family, is respectful (though her parents don't think so lol), and most of all, she loves me back <3 If something happens between us, i honestly don't think I'll be able to find any better.
OK, so what are you waiting for, a literal green traffic light from God? Sounds like marriage potential to me. ;)

But I fully agree with you. Don't cling to everyone you see at first sight and expect them to marry you one day. Love is something that grows over a period of at least a couple of years, and then will continue to develop after the marriage.
Agreed.
 
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Vidy

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OK, so what are you waiting for, a literal green traffic light from God? Sounds like marriage potential to me. ;)

I'm waiting for age and schooling... She's 15 and I'm 17. I'm a senior in HS and she's a freshman. I'm trying to get this all worked out in my head, and it really depends on what she decides to do with her school. Either way, I think the BEST way would be after he first year in college (which, in the other plan, is technically her 3rd year since she would've taken a dual-credit during Junior/senior years). During that year, she can do any studying abroad she may want to do, and I'll be out of college myself and can move to her location ^_^

It's a good 4 and a half years away, but I'm more than willing to wait and I think we have a real chance at making this last <3
 
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ChristianGuru

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Again, further problems within church groups can become... when you're no longer obligated to get married... you begin realizing just how many people are obligated. You can observe how many people base relationships on marriage as the fulfillment of a life lived for God. Instead, of just living a life well lived, single, dating, engaged, married or divorced aside. At my church, a year ago, 4-6 couples got engaged and married. I had been in the group for years, when no one had dated, suddenly once one couple got engaged, it became the thing to do. Personally, being single wasn't an issue to me. It was how people went to war with each other that bothered me. Engaged couples fighting over who's going to have the better wedding. Childish things. Eventually, no one trusted anyone, and everyone has gone their seperate ways since. I've been gone for a year now.
 
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glenwood74

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Well said, Oreo!
 

DinoDillinger

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LOL, this is a funny post. While you do make a couple points Guru, honestly your post sounds a bit cynical, bitter even.

If you or the other posters responding, don't want to get married then good for you. What advice can you give those who do value marriage, considering your failure to get married with the perimeters you have put on possible spouses? Obviously you can only give a cold comfort to those who like you are sick of it. Which I understand, can even relate too. Basically the only sound advice you can give is that you shouldn't go putting finding a spouse before God. Which is good advice. :)
 
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kiwi_OT

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I had a thought, perhaps the idea of future spouse etc and being forced into it comes from Calvinism :).

I know what puts women off me personally, it's my superior intellect and incredible physique, I'm also one of the most humble guys around. Unfortunately others can't see it...

Laughs out loud