Why are you all preaching so much patience without actually helping?

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DABEARS85

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I am probably very insensitive on this issue, but the more I read people's desperate cries for some type of relationship advice, the more I disagree with all the preaching for patience as if that is the only true answer. Patience doesn't get you anywhere most of the time. In your relationship with Christ, patience is the key. You grow in a relationship with Christ. He is always there, so you have a basis to start from. Human's are different. In your relationship with humans, patience is never the key in terms of meeting them. You have to be proactive.

You have to be constructive in actually meeting people and finding someone that is compatable. God will always help you when you pray, but you need to pray for the strength to actually take action with it as well. For all you know, your perfect christian mate might already be in your life, but you are so busy praying for that person to show up that you forget that God might have already helped you. Nothing in life comes easy, and there is no lottery ticket in terms of meeting someone without working for it. Go out and talk to someone! Stop bottling yourself up inside and refusing to be who you are in hopes that a miracle will happen. Abraham had to leave Ur before God would work in his life. The same should be applied to you.

Everyone want's companionship. We are made that way. It's an automatic given. Eve was created for Adam based on this basic knowledge. We don't live in that day and age anymore, though. The world is populated with people beyond comprehension, and there IS someone out there that will love you. You have to be proactive in finding them though. The perfect person could be sitting next to you, but if you don't talk to them, how would any of it ever work?

I don't understand why everyone is so afraid of rejection that they refuse to give the chance to be accepted. I could go out and talk to 10 girls today, and possibly be rejected by all of them. I could also have the chance to be accepted by 1 or more of them as well. It would fall squarely on me as a man to try to talk to someone that I was attracted to. Also, if I went to a bar to find someone, most likely they will not be good christians. I know this already. If I do it through a church, I might get a different outcome. This falls squarely on my shoulders, and I know this.

The more everyone says "I have never been kissed, and I am this age or that age," whose responsibility does that fall on? Be yourself and meet someone. God will help steer you in the right direction, but he always always always gives us a choice. Instead of just praying for a girlfriend or boyfriend, pray to have the strength to meet them too. Pray for the ability of understanding for when both of you don't see eye to eye. Then, pray for the patience to be able to withhold from the temptations that go along with having a girlfriend/boyfriend.

Think of it this way. If God KNEW that you wouldn't be able to keep yourself pure and focused on Him if He answered your prayer for a partner, do you think it would be His will to give you one anyway? Sometimes you need to look outside of the box and focus your prayer more on fixing the negatives before they happen. If you have managed to stay a virgin by the age of 20, it is probably a far better thing than you imagine. If you had a girlfriend your whole life, I am willing to bet that you would NOT be one thus far, and your heart would have been broken many times over. This possibly could have led you astray from God, who should always be your focus anyway.

My thoughts are this: If you are still young and still haven't had a girlfriend/boyfriend and you are able to pray everyday because of that reason, you are blessed. You are forced to focus on God for that reason alone. It is the same concept that the poor are more willing to pray and be saved than the rich. They have far more need of divine help than a rich person. Desperate people are the ones that go to God for help. You should look at this as a blessing. Having a partner takes up far more focus away from God than you think it does at this stage. Learn from it first, because when you do have find your partner, you will know how to keep your focus squarely on God instead of things like sex.

Just my two cents... feel free to bash me or agree :)
 
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heart4him

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agreed. no ones going to fall into your lap.
 
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1still_waters

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Well said man.
 
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Wug

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In it's own way, that was very encouraging. Thanks dude.
 
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DABEARS85

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No problem :) If anyone actually wants any more... personal... advice.. feel free to shoot me a message. I can only help from my own experience, but I'll do what I can!
 
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Amen to the whole thing, DaBear. It always amazes me how many Christians actually believe (whether they realize it or not) that God will somehow drop their perfect spouse right in on them. News flash, folks: it doesn't work that way. If it did, a lot more people would be married instead of single right now.

To make it personal, here's my situation. I'm 29 years old, and I've only had one girlfriend my entire life. She was my first everything, and we broke up almost 4 years ago. Why did all of this happen? Well, I was too scared of embarassment or rejection in school to ask any girls out, and eventually my one relationship (thus far) was born out of ungodly choices. Why am I still single? It's not God's fault, but rather my own. Emotionally, there's still some things about my ex-GF that I'm having a lot of trouble sorting out, and I know that to pursue a new relationship at this point would only lead down the wrong path. So, as of now, I am single mostly by my own decisions. God could place the right woman in my life now, but I'm not so sure I;d be totally ready to approach her. I still feel a great sense of loss about my ex, and on top of that there's still the whole "rejection" issue to deal with.
 
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good point, however, just to let you know, for some people, the drive to have a girlfriend/boyfriend is not based simply on a sexual relationship with one another.
 
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Matthew

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You make some good points, I see the posts that say focus on yourself and wait on God because he's got it all in hand, well sure but maybe he did his part by putting us here along with the members of our opposite gender, and so I agree that the idea of just doing what you do believing that one day things will coalesce is perhaps wishful thinking that may well lead to a life quite contrary to the one desired.

But you seem to pushing the pro-active option, we are here the rest is up to us, true words sure enough, but not for each and every person.

Neither approach can be the right one absolutely, you know your mind and so what works for you, others have lived years of life being pro-active in their attempts to form relationships/friendships and found their efforts to bring them all the wrong things, my point is we all are different and what works for you doesn't work for me and it goes on like that, person to person it all happens differently.

Cannot say what works and what doesn't, what should be done and what shouldn't be done, we are not the same, so our solutions won't be either.

It reminds me of countries creating governments to help the people, applying a policy across all people of all stripes thinking it will make for a better day, but they don't know us and they can't fix us, all policies work, they work everytime, just not for everyone.

In my mind there is no true way to deal, we were made different for a reason, I believe part of that reason is to provide us a unique challenge, which is why wisdom for me can be nonsense for you.
 
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good point, however, just to let you know, for some people, the drive to have a girlfriend/boyfriend is not based simply on a sexual relationship with one another.
I don't recall ever saying it was. I'm well aware that sexual issues are not the ultimate point of having a spouse. Besides, aren't we as Christians supposed to avoid a lot of sexual situations until marriage?
 
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of course, however the general impression i got from the OP, especially in his last paragraph, is that he was generalizing a relationship with only sex... and not everyone is looking for only that in either a relationship or marriage.
 
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DABEARS85

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I didn't mean it like that either. I meant that the temptation of sex goes along with having a g/f or b/f. If someone isn't ready to face that temptation, it is probably better they wait anyway. It doesn't mean that is what they focus on, but that temptation IS there and it WILL come up. To disagree with that doesn't even make sense.
 
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I didn't mean it like that either. I meant that the temptation of sex goes along with having a g/f or b/f. If someone isn't ready to face that temptation, it is probably better they wait anyway. It doesn't mean that is what they focus on, but that temptation IS there and it WILL come up. To disagree with that doesn't even make sense.
Agreed; after all, the ultimate point of dating is to find a spouse, who you will then be having sex with for the rest of your life. Thinking that such a temptation won't show up before you say "I do" is just foolish, in my opinion.
 
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I'm agreeing with you.
i'm not saying it wont show up... I'm simply saying, for some, it's not the biggest thing they struggle with.
 
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Sometimes theres just so much crying and whinning on here from people who aren't with someone. Its no wonder they aren't with anyone. I sure woudn't want to be around them. Your post was very good.
 
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I think sex is a good reason to want a spouse. It's not like you get married just to play monopoly.
I like the OP to be pro-active. Not waiting around praying for someone to come our way. Sooner or later you're 35 or 40 or 50 by which time you're too old to have kids or you have to marry someone 20 years younger.
 
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no, there are many reasons to get married... however, sex shouldn't be the only reason.
there's so much more to a relationship/marriage than sex
 
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buterfly222

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Very nicly put i totally agree,it took the isrealites 40 years to make a 11 day trip ,why ? because of their attitudes and groaning and complaining,they should of kept their sights on God and stay joyfull throgh their circomstances and the trip wouldent have taken that long.Think about it we make things so hard ourselves if we would only listen.
 
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no, there are many reasons to get married... however, sex shouldn't be the only reason.
there's so much more to a relationship/marriage than sex
After Adam and Eve were married, and Adam was still drooling at the mouth at the beauty of Eve, all God said was BE FRUITFUL AND MULTIPLY.

heheheh.
 
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Wug

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I think sex is a good reason to want a spouse. It's not like you get married just to play monopoly.
I like the OP to be pro-active. Not waiting around praying for someone to come our way. Sooner or later you're 35 or 40 or 50 by which time you're too old to have kids or you have to marry someone 20 years younger.
What? I thought all that married couples did when they were alone WAS play monopoly. Suddenly much is explained.

I don't think that a couple should get married for any other reason than that they will glorify God greater married than they will not married. I've seen many Christian virgins get married, just so that they can have sex without sinning. SHOCKER, they end up divorced in six months. If your marriage is based on any selfish desire, there's no way that it will last long.