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The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are one.
John 20:24-28
24Now Thomas, one of the Twelve, called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came. 25So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord." But he said to them, "Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe." 26Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you." 27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe." 28Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!"
John 20:24-28
24Now Thomas, one of the Twelve, called the Twin, was not with them when Jesus came. 25So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord." But he said to them, "Unless I see in his hands the mark of the nails, and place my finger into the mark of the nails, and place my hand into his side, I will never believe." 26Eight days later, his disciples were inside again, and Thomas was with them. Although the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you." 27Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe." 28Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!"
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There aren´t 3 Gods in one, according with old and new testament there is only one God that came to earth, that became flesh.
1 Timothy 3:16 : "Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body..."
John 1:14 "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us"
Romans 9:5: "Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised!Amen."
1 Timothy 3:16 : "Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body..."
John 1:14 "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us"
Romans 9:5: "Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised!Amen."
Why is Jesus God?
Jesus said= "Before Abraham was I AM"
Now what is this a reference to?
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
This is God- the God of the Old Testament even! Jesus is God and has been God since the get go!
What else did He say?
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
What is this a reference to ? (Among other passages)
(Genesis 17:1) And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
So Jesus thought of Himself as God-- not just inferior son.. but equal with the Father.
So how can God be Son and Father? People have a mind, body and spirit.. yet these things are not seperate from the one being. So it is with God-- three essences-- Father, Son and Holy Spirit of one being. Not three seperate beings.. one being expressing Himself three ways.
Jesus-- cast out demons, healed the sick, brought about the coming of God's Kingdom, forgave sin.. rose from the grave.. who can do this but God?
so- you say.. well I can forgive someone.. ya.. but only 1 person. Jesus forgave someone who wasn't actually directly affecting Him. E.g. person A wrongs person B.. Jesus comes and says I forgive you.. to person A. What kind of cheek is that? Only God can do that.. forgive in the 3rd person.
Jesus said= "Before Abraham was I AM"
Now what is this a reference to?
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
This is God- the God of the Old Testament even! Jesus is God and has been God since the get go!
What else did He say?
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
What is this a reference to ? (Among other passages)
(Genesis 17:1) And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
So Jesus thought of Himself as God-- not just inferior son.. but equal with the Father.
So how can God be Son and Father? People have a mind, body and spirit.. yet these things are not seperate from the one being. So it is with God-- three essences-- Father, Son and Holy Spirit of one being. Not three seperate beings.. one being expressing Himself three ways.
Jesus-- cast out demons, healed the sick, brought about the coming of God's Kingdom, forgave sin.. rose from the grave.. who can do this but God?
so- you say.. well I can forgive someone.. ya.. but only 1 person. Jesus forgave someone who wasn't actually directly affecting Him. E.g. person A wrongs person B.. Jesus comes and says I forgive you.. to person A. What kind of cheek is that? Only God can do that.. forgive in the 3rd person.
JESUS IS GOD HERE IS SCRIPTURE TO PROVE WHO HE IS
PROOF JESUS IS THE WORD
JOHN 1:1...In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with GOD, and the WORD was GOD
JOHN 1:14...And the WORD was made flesh (JESUS)..........
PROOF JESUS IS THE FATHER
JOHN 14:8-11...Philip asks JESUS to shew US the FATHER. JESUS answers, Have I been with you so long
THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW ME(THIS IS CLEAR EVIDENCE JESUS SAYING HE IS THE FATHER).
JESUS goes on to say IF YOU SEE ME YOU SEE THE FATHER IF YOU SEE THE FATHER YOU SEE ME
FOR I AM IN THE FATHER AND THE FATHER IS IN ME.
JOHN 10:30...I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE
PHILIPPIANS 2:7...BUT MADE HIMSELF...GOD SPOKE HIS WORD BECAME LIFE
PROOF HOLY GHOST IS JESUS
GALATIANS 4:6...And because ye are sons(WE ARE SONS OF GOD WHEN WE ACCEPT JESUS AND ARE BAPTIZED AND SAVED),
GOD hath sent forth the SPIRIT(NOTICE CAPITAL "S" INDICATING HOLY GHOST)
of his SON(JESUS - NOTICE THE CAPITAL "S"PIRIT(HOLY GHOST) IS THE SPIRIT OF JESUS) into your hearts,
crying, ABBA FATHER.
WHO IS SENDING THE HOLY GHOST TO US.......?
LUKE 24:49...JESUS SAYS I SEND THE PROMISE (HOLY GHOST) OF MY FATHER
JOHN 14:26...JESUS SAYS THE FATHER WILL SEND THE COMFORTER (HOLY GHOST) IN MY NAME
JOHN 15:26...JESUS SAYS I WILL SEND THE COMFORTER (HOLY GHOST) UNTO YOU
JOHN 16:7...JESUS SAYS I WILL SEND THE COMFORTER (HOLY GHOST) UNTO YOU
WE HAVE JESUS SAYING THAT HE / FATHER WILL SEND HOLY GHOST = JESUS IS SPEAKING THAT HE IS THE FATHER
COLOSSIANS 2:9... IN JESUS IS THE COMPLETE GODHEAD BODY (FATHER - WORD - HOLY GHOST)
1 JOHN 5:6-7... WHEN ON EARTH JESUS WAS (WATER - BLOOD - SPIRIT)
WHEN IN HEAVEN JESUS IS (FATHER - WORD - HOLY GHOST)
JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER THE WORD AND THE HOLY GHOST
PROOF JESUS IS THE WORD
JOHN 1:1...In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with GOD, and the WORD was GOD
JOHN 1:14...And the WORD was made flesh (JESUS)..........
PROOF JESUS IS THE FATHER
JOHN 14:8-11...Philip asks JESUS to shew US the FATHER. JESUS answers, Have I been with you so long
THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW ME(THIS IS CLEAR EVIDENCE JESUS SAYING HE IS THE FATHER).
JESUS goes on to say IF YOU SEE ME YOU SEE THE FATHER IF YOU SEE THE FATHER YOU SEE ME
FOR I AM IN THE FATHER AND THE FATHER IS IN ME.
JOHN 10:30...I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE
PHILIPPIANS 2:7...BUT MADE HIMSELF...GOD SPOKE HIS WORD BECAME LIFE
PROOF HOLY GHOST IS JESUS
GALATIANS 4:6...And because ye are sons(WE ARE SONS OF GOD WHEN WE ACCEPT JESUS AND ARE BAPTIZED AND SAVED),
GOD hath sent forth the SPIRIT(NOTICE CAPITAL "S" INDICATING HOLY GHOST)
of his SON(JESUS - NOTICE THE CAPITAL "S"PIRIT(HOLY GHOST) IS THE SPIRIT OF JESUS) into your hearts,
crying, ABBA FATHER.
WHO IS SENDING THE HOLY GHOST TO US.......?
LUKE 24:49...JESUS SAYS I SEND THE PROMISE (HOLY GHOST) OF MY FATHER
JOHN 14:26...JESUS SAYS THE FATHER WILL SEND THE COMFORTER (HOLY GHOST) IN MY NAME
JOHN 15:26...JESUS SAYS I WILL SEND THE COMFORTER (HOLY GHOST) UNTO YOU
JOHN 16:7...JESUS SAYS I WILL SEND THE COMFORTER (HOLY GHOST) UNTO YOU
WE HAVE JESUS SAYING THAT HE / FATHER WILL SEND HOLY GHOST = JESUS IS SPEAKING THAT HE IS THE FATHER
COLOSSIANS 2:9... IN JESUS IS THE COMPLETE GODHEAD BODY (FATHER - WORD - HOLY GHOST)
1 JOHN 5:6-7... WHEN ON EARTH JESUS WAS (WATER - BLOOD - SPIRIT)
WHEN IN HEAVEN JESUS IS (FATHER - WORD - HOLY GHOST)
JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER THE WORD AND THE HOLY GHOST
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Thank you all,
but i need something to clarify my doubts that i could not bring my heart & mind to close with God..
1.As scriptures Says...no one can see the God but with holiness...then how could Jesus would be God
2.Should we follow the old covenant or New covenant
3.Should we follow Ten commandments
4.What about Old testament generations who would be in hell or heaven?
5.Do they have eternity in Christ?
Pl share your inputs.
but i need something to clarify my doubts that i could not bring my heart & mind to close with God..
1.As scriptures Says...no one can see the God but with holiness...then how could Jesus would be God
2.Should we follow the old covenant or New covenant
3.Should we follow Ten commandments
4.What about Old testament generations who would be in hell or heaven?
5.Do they have eternity in Christ?
Pl share your inputs.