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Fenner

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I've noticed a trend in certain threads that sometimes people think it's Okie dokie to be down right obnoxious or rude. You know it's really not.

1. Um, this topic has been talked about already.

OK if the person is new do we expect them to go back and look through every thread to make sure it wasn't already discussed?

The tipping thread, OK so the guy started one 4 years ago. 4 YEARS AGO. Seriously who went back and checked up on that?Who cares, can't you ignore it? If you don't want to comment don't, don't even open it. Just get over it already.

That's the only thing I've got, but I'm sure there are other things. Try to give people a break.
 

Fenner

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I'm extremely tired today so I apologize if I sound snarky or rude or mean or whatever adjective you'd like to call me. I love you all, be kind to each other.
 
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Hellooo

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I agree with your original post, Fenner. It's not the end of the world if someone repeats a thread topic or grave digs an old one. We all have the choice to simply not participate.
 
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I could be guilty on other board of doing that, but I agree, the Archive is the final resting place of threads that became uninteresting, what the OP is saying is - Please don't resurrect them. RIP
 

hoss2576

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I could be guilty on other board of doing that, but I agree, the Archive is the final resting place of threads that became uninteresting, what the OP is saying is - Please don't resurrect them. RIP
I don't think that is what she is saying at all.
 
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JustAnotherUser

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Sadly, I think many who are newcomers tend to not sign back on because of the fact that they don't feel welcomed. Some that get persecuted within a few posts they make, especially if they start within the BD forum and post something that others don't agree and condemn them for it; some that even go and follow the person's posts and oppose what they are saying within every post they make. It's ridiculous and unfortunately it seems like the newcomers take the worse end of it.

Many more things that I could point out, but by doing so would make me as a hypocrite since I'm not always the welcoming type and get sarcastic when it's not needed. But there needs to be some boundary set for people as to how they treat one another, especially newcomers if the site's aim is to attract people with similar interests and beliefs on a Christian site.
 

Fenner

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I could be guilty on other board of doing that, but I agree, the Archive is the final resting place of threads that became uninteresting, what the OP is saying is - Please don't resurrect them. RIP

I'm not saying that. I'm saying when someone does do it we don't need to keep reminding them that this topic has already been discussed in a thread or that they pulled up an old thread.
 

blue_ladybug

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I'm not saying that. I'm saying when someone does do it we don't need to keep reminding them that this topic has already been discussed in a thread or that they pulled up an old thread.
Unless they pull forward a thread where the OP was banned, or left CC. Alot of people respond to the OP, not realizing they were banned or aren't a member anymore. On that point, it would be prudent to point out to whoever pulled the thread forward, that they need to look at the date the thread was created AND note whether the OP is still an active member or was banned. All you have to do is click on the OP's user name, and "view profile" to see when their last online activity was. If you see they haven't posted on here for four years, for example, then it's a safe bet they won't be returning to the site again.
 
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With some of that strange and limited thinking, we shouldn't even read the Bible. After all, that whole book is old news.... it's thousands of years old.
 
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Ya know, some of the other forums I've been on limit access to some of the more controversial and belligerent rooms till a certain number of posts have been placed by the new comer. That gives them the chance to meet some of the more pleasant people on the forum before facing those who think they are God's gladiators.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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I'm extremely tired today so I apologize if I sound snarky or rude or mean or whatever adjective you'd like to call me. I love you all, be kind to each other.
Aw, it didn't seem that way (snarky/rude) to me. We certainly can (or should) politely alert someone to how much a topic is in circulation without getting our weenies all defrosted over it.

Good for you for speaking up about it, Fenner. :)
 
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FridaysChild

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I've noticed a trend in certain threads that sometimes people think it's Okie dokie to be down right obnoxious or rude. You know it's really not.

1. Um, this topic has been talked about already.

OK if the person is new do we expect them to go back and look through every thread to make sure it wasn't already discussed?

The tipping thread, OK so the guy started one 4 years ago. 4 YEARS AGO. Seriously who went back and checked up on that?Who cares, can't you ignore it? If you don't want to comment don't, don't even open it. Just get over it already.

That's the only thing I've got, but I'm sure there are other things. Try to give people a break.
If someone wants to rehash an old topic why shouldn't they be able to start a new thread with their ideas concerning it.

Speaking Member to member wise:

I'd have to agree on the level of rudeness though suggesting that if the topic has already been discussed then it shouldn't be re-done. :eek: Definitely would make a person feel like being shoved to the sidelines as if the rude members had dibs on the site since they'd been around awhile :( Has the body of Christ now become a clique?? I've encountered this same tude before (but not on this site, yet).

The BLB makes a valid point on checking dates to see if the OP is still around or banned. (making a mental note)

And Willie's point is excellent as well.
Ya know, some of the other forums I've been on limit access to some of the more controversial and belligerent rooms till a certain number of posts have been placed by the new comer. That gives them the chance to meet some of the more pleasant people on the forum before facing those who think they are God's gladiators.
 

hoss2576

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I actually disagree with this idea of pointing out to new posters that the OP is no longer here or is banned as a reason not to necessarily revive the thread. Just because the OP may be gone, does not mean the thread lost its value. I would understand maybe if the OP was looking for specific advice, but even in that situation, there may be other CC members who are facing a similar situation and just haven't stated it like the OP did.

A lot of threads are started as general discussions, so whether the OP is here or not, they can still serve a purpose if a new person feels the need to respond to it.
 

SoulWeaver

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I'm not saying that. I'm saying when someone does do it we don't need to keep reminding them that this topic has already been discussed in a thread or that they pulled up an old thread.
Damned if you do, damned if you dont... annoys me as well.
 
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FridaysChild

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I actually disagree with this idea of pointing out to new posters that the OP is no longer here or is banned as a reason not to necessarily revive the thread. Just because the OP may be gone, does not mean the thread lost its value. I would understand maybe if the OP was looking for specific advice, but even in that situation, there may be other CC members who are facing a similar situation and just haven't stated it like the OP did.

A lot of threads are started as general discussions, so whether the OP is here or not, they can still serve a purpose if a new person feels the need to respond to it.
So why not make a new thread topic with my own ideas. Otherwise, ideas might well be lost on thread of several pages.

And perhaps post a link to the old one, or copy and paste a post, if there's anything relevant from it.

But I suppose either way could be useful.
 

seoulsearch

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The only thing about telling people to "Just start a new thread, already!!!" is that you have to remember they're new users, and starting threads can be quite intimidating, or they might not even know how.

Case in point, I see a lot of "regulars" here who NEVER, or VERY rarely, start a thread themselves, so demanding people who are brand-spanking new to the site to start their own brand-new thread about a topic that interests them isn't very realistic, and, as Fenner pointed out, not very welcoming at all.

It's like asking a benchwarmer with no experience to throw out the first official pitch and then expect them to think they won't be laughed at or ridiculed. We get plenty of ridicule even when people AREN'T new.

In my own time on CC, I've written a few threads (couple hundred or so... I haven't checked the numbers lately), and I STILL find it intimidating at times, so while of course, newcomers are welcome to start threads, I certainly wouldn't expect them to. I remember the very first time I wrote a thread... and hitting the "post" button... my hands were literally shaking because I honestly didn't know what to expect.

As I had pointed out in another thread as well, when you post in a thread, it will give you a list of "similar threads" at the bottom of the page, REGARDLESS of how old the thread is. I suspect many new guests are simply reading the list and reply to what interests them.

As someone else pointed out, just because a topic was discussed 5 years ago doesn't mean it's not relevant today. I know one thread I'd written a long time ago that got a lot of new traffic was about whether or not couples should get married just because they're pregnant. Apparently several new users were interested in that discussion, which, even 5 years later, yes, still happens.

I agree that it can be cumbersome to wade through long lists of posts made by users who aren't even on CC and I don't know what the best way would be to resolve this, but we have to put ourselves in the place of these new users, too.

After all, like I said... even a good number of people posting on THIS thread never write their own threads, so how can they expect everyone else to as well?
 

Oncefallen

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In my own time on CC, I've written a few threads (couple hundred or so... I haven't checked the numbers lately), and I STILL find it intimidating at times, so while of course, newcomers are welcome to start threads, I certainly wouldn't expect them to. I remember the very first time I wrote a thread... and hitting the "post" button... my hands were literally shaking because I honestly didn't know what to expect.
A couple hundred?? Try just shy of 400. :eek:
 
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threads should be locked after 30 or so days of inactivity.

And seriously, ALL forums have something called SEARCH. ie LURK MOAR.

heh forget it, common sense don't exist anymore. enjoy beating the bones of the dead horse that died 10 years ago..
 

seoulsearch

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A couple hundred?? Try just shy of 400. :eek:
Wow, I didn't expect someone to actually check!! :p

I was just trying to be conservative and at the same time, show that I still had a few "been there, done that, wrote a thread about it," credits. :D