What Does The Church Tell Older, More Experienced Singles? "Just Wait On The Lord?"

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seoulsearch

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What Does The Church Tell Older, More Experienced Singles? "Just Wait On The Lord?"

Hey everyone,

A discussion towards the end of the "Write a Letter to Your Future Spouse" thread really got me thinking. If you've spent much time in Christian circles as a single, you already know what you'll be told: "Just wait on the Lord! Use that time to deepen your relationship with Him! Finish your schooling! Work on improving yourself! Volunteer! Participate in things that interest you! Be content! Then give it all to God and wait on Him to send you the right person in His Perfect Timing!!!"

Which is all great, Biblical advice. Except that the people who most aggressively hand out that advice to young singles are usually those who met and married their spouse in their late teens or early 20's and have forgotten or are unfamiliar with the realities of modern single life. Many met their spouses before they were even officially adults.

God bless their hearts for wanting to help. But what I think is often forgotten is that they met their spouse at a time when it seems easier to meet people--when you're a young adult, you're often in several new environments, sometimes have fewer responsibilities, and may be able to spend more time getting to know someone. If God doesn't send you a spouse during that time, in a few years, you'll generally find yourself locked into a rigid, time-sucking routine in which you are always surrounded by the same people (at your job, etc.) who are all married or unavaillable as you work yourself to the grind trying to pay for all the new-found responsibilities of adulthood.

In one way or the other, every one of us is "waiting on the Lord"... Which, as I'm finding out, can turn into months, years, and even decades... The entire singles group at my church is a lovely bunch of older Christian women in their 50's, 60's, and 70's. Some are widowed, others divorced, and I think one may have never been married. But, most of these ladies all have the same desire on their heart: they long for someone to love them, and they would very much like to be married.

And so I'm curious. What advice does the church give to our older single communities? If you are a Christian single in your 50's, 60's, 70's, and beyond... Does the advice change? Are people still telling YOU to "wait on the Lord" as well? I realize that people might not believe there are any better answers out there, and maybe there aren't. But if you are 85 years old and find yourself single (after all, even for married people, there is a 50/50 chance that THEY will be single too someday), what does the church tell you?

Do you know an older, wiser single? What kind of advice do they give you, or have they ever told you about what advice they have received themselves?

And, do I dare ask... Does the church ever reach a point where it says, "Well Betty, there's no use in hoping for a spouse now... after all, your time here is almost up." I've grown up in churches all my life... and frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that some have received that answer. Or, at what "age" does someone face the supposed reality that they will literally "always" be single... for the rest of their life?

Yes, I know ANYTHING is possible with God. But what's possible... and what really happens... are very often two very different things.
 

seoulsearch

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P.S. One of the reasons I wrote this thread is because when I found myself alone at 25, all the older singles told me how young I was and that I had all the time in the world. Some even told me I'd be remarried in a couple of years. I am now 41.

If I continue on this track, it won't be too many years before I myself am one of the "older, more experienced" singles in the church... and I want to have an idea of what I'm in for.
 

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Instead of 'waiting on the Lord' it might be better to be actively seeking His will and desire for your life. Relationships are like investments. The calculated risks that you take are dependent on your time horizon in regards for your tolerance for risk. Yes, I believe the advice must change based on how old you now are.

People that literally believe that they will always be single have either given up hope or no longer care. Perhaps they waited for all green lights up ahead, all the 'i's crossed and the 't's dotted. Or maybe they were just afraid to take a calculated risk by rolling the dice when an opportunity arose. Fear is their symptom and loneliness is their disease.

It has been said that it is better to have loved and lost than never to have known what love is. Someone much wiser than me has said this. I believe it to be true also.
 
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Hey everyone,

A discussion towards the end of the "Write a Letter to Your Future Spouse" thread really got me thinking. If you've spent much time in Christian circles as a single, you already know what you'll be told: "Just wait on the Lord! Use that time to deepen your relationship with Him! Finish your schooling! Work on improving yourself! Volunteer! Participate in things that interest you! Be content! Then give it all to God and wait on Him to send you the right person in His Perfect Timing!!!"

Which is all great, Biblical advice. Except that the people who most aggressively hand out that advice to young singles are usually those who met and married their spouse in their late teens or early 20's and have forgotten or are unfamiliar with the realities of modern single life. Many met their spouses before they were even officially adults.

God bless their hearts for wanting to help. But what I think is often forgotten is that they met their spouse at a time when it seems easier to meet people--when you're a young adult, you're often in several new environments, sometimes have fewer responsibilities, and may be able to spend more time getting to know someone. If God doesn't send you a spouse during that time, in a few years, you'll generally find yourself locked into a rigid, time-sucking routine in which you are always surrounded by the same people (at your job, etc.) who are all married or unavaillable as you work yourself to the grind trying to pay for all the new-found responsibilities of adulthood.

In one way or the other, every one of us is "waiting on the Lord"... Which, as I'm finding out, can turn into months, years, and even decades... The entire singles group at my church is a lovely bunch of older Christian women in their 50's, 60's, and 70's. Some are widowed, others divorced, and I think one may have never been married. But, most of these ladies all have the same desire on their heart: they long for someone to love them, and they would very much like to be married.

And so I'm curious. What advice does the church give to our older single communities? If you are a Christian single in your 50's, 60's, 70's, and beyond... Does the advice change? Are people still telling YOU to "wait on the Lord" as well? I realize that people might not believe there are any better answers out there, and maybe there aren't. But if you are 85 years old and find yourself single (after all, even for married people, there is a 50/50 chance that THEY will be single too someday), what does the church tell you?

Do you know an older, wiser single? What kind of advice do they give you, or have they ever told you about what advice they have received themselves?

And, do I dare ask... Does the church ever reach a point where it says, "Well Betty, there's no use in hoping for a spouse now... after all, your time here is almost up." I've grown up in churches all my life... and frankly, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that some have received that answer. Or, at what "age" does someone face the supposed reality that they will literally "always" be single... for the rest of their life?

Yes, I know ANYTHING is possible with God. But what's possible... and what really happens... are very often two very different things.
I think many people who married young, regret getting married as young as they did and wanted to wait until they got older. That may be why they say to wait on the Lord.
 
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This seems like it's a Christian site. I looked at the faith statement. Check it out for yourself. I have always tended to believe this in everything, "God helps those who help themselves". It's not in the Bible. The thoughts on that concept are at the bottom of the page.

God helps those who help themselves - is it in the Bible?

I just don't believe in miracles any more. Maybe they happen, but I have not recognized them. I just don't think God will plop into our laps the exact person we want within the exact time we think we need it. Maybe he does, but I have great difficulty in believing that. I tend to believe we do as we want and God helps us get through our mistakes and misfortune with His word and our faith. No magic or miracle is involved, almost every time. I think, if He did perform a miracle, it would be for all to see and further His goals for us. That's a far cry from asking for a puppy or even the perfect husband without actively taking a part in our responsibility.
 
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seoulsearch

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It has been said that it is better to have loved and lost than never to have known what love is. Someone much wiser than me has said this. I believe it to be true also.
I have often heard this statement as well and as I get older, I find myself disagreeing.

As I've written before, one of the biggest losses in my life was that my ex understood things about me that no one else has, and maybe never will. I could say things to him that others would just laugh at, but he knew exactly what I meant and was often thinking the same thing. I miss that terribly and have never encountered it again.

The worst part for me was experiencing a bonding like that and then having to go through watching him reject our marriage so that he could marry someone else. Knowing that he is living the life he had talked about with me, and having children with another woman instead of the children he used to tell me we would have is a soul-crushing thing.

The most horrible part for me is knowing that love exists, but that he chose to give it to someone else.

Would I have been better off not knowing someone could understand me the way he did? Sometimes I think so.
 
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Instead of 'waiting on the Lord' it might be better to be actively seeking His will and desire for your life. Relationships are like investments. The calculated risks that you take are dependent on your time horizon in regards for your tolerance for risk. Yes, I believe the advice must change based on how old you now are.

People that literally believe that they will always be single have either given up hope or no longer care. Perhaps they waited for all green lights up ahead, all the 'i's crossed and the 't's dotted. Or maybe they were just afraid to take a calculated risk by rolling the dice when an opportunity arose. Fear is their symptom and loneliness is their disease.

It has been said that it is better to have loved and lost than never to have known what love is. Someone much wiser than me has said this. I believe it to be true also.
I believe that was Willy Shakespeare.
 

Lynx

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To the OP: Beats me. I've never solicited advice on this matter and my friends at church have never volunteered it. But I've never been very intent on finding a girl anyway. If it happens, yay! If it doesn't, oh well. So maybe my friends would give me advice like that if I was actively searching for a girl.
 
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Miri

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Hi Seoul, just thought I would give you my thoughts. I'm 46 single never been married.

Yes when I was younger I watched and waited seeing people around me getting married but it never happened for me.
It's not that there wasn't interest there was plenty of that (and still is ha ha - I saw a man checking me out while I was in town today!) but unfortunately it was always the wrong kind.

I am mixed race my mother being British and white, I never knew my father but he gave me a really nice suntan. The difficulty is that most people when they envisage who they will marry, tend to automatically look within the their own culture and race.
So all the attention I get tends to be from non Christians of mainly Asian origin many of them being Muslim. Although I have also lost count of the number of times people have asked if I am Egyptian, isreali, from Singapore, Morocco, Spain etc etc. I have an Italian friend and when she catches the sun in summer people often think I am her sister! it's all rather funny.

I go to a very large multicultural church and there are some mixed race marriages but these are few and far between.

I think I pretty much gave up looking by my late 20s and just got on with life. I don't know what the future holds but I know that currently I am where God wants me to be and that's enough for me. That is taking care of my elderly aunt which is my priority at the moment while working part time to support us both.


As to late starters there are quite a few couples in our church who got together later in life, one couple in their late fifties for example, another couple in their 60's. I have a friend in her 30s who resigned herself to be single after years of wondering if she would ever meet anyone. Then last year she met her soul mate for want of a better word, while helping out on a Christian camp it was completely unexpected for her.


I have another friend in her late 40s who has just gotten together with someone so you don't have to be young to find love.

As to your own situation I don't know what to suggest, it's easy, as you say, to just come out with the usual platitudes.
Maybe you could confide in some of the people/friends at church and ask them to pray about this for you. There are certain advantages to this as friends can often see things you can't. Good Christians friends can actually be pretty good at match
making! :)
 

seoulsearch

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Hi Miri,

What a wonderfully insightful post. Thank you so much for sharing your story! God bless you for taking care of your aunt. I really enjoyed your post and am sure others will as well. Very encouraging, thank you!!!

P.S. Although I don't know for sure (due to adoption), I have long believed I may be mixed as well. It's really... amusing... as to what some people guess I am as well (so far, "Mexican" probably takes the cake... or perhaps, the pinata!!)
 
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Miri

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Hi Miri,

What a wonderfully insightful post. Thank you so much for sharing your story! God bless you for taking care of your aunt. I really enjoyed your post and am sure others will as well. Very encouraging, thank you!!!

P.S. Although I don't know for sure (due to adoption), I have long believed I may be mixed as well. It's really... amusing... as to what some people guess I am as well (so far, "Mexican" probably takes the cake... or perhaps, the pinata!!)

Whatever you are, you are attractive and I can only think the men around you must be blind! ;)
 

seoulsearch

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Whatever you are, you are attractive and I can only think the men around you must be blind! ;)
Thank you for the kind compliment. :)

As anyone who reads this forum regularly knows, I have a bit of "spunk" to my personality, along with a strong independent streak. :) Add that to the fact that I'm a bit of an introvert and trying to lead a Christian lifestyle (which many people interpret as boring), it seems to be very effective at keeping one single.

But at this point in my life, I can't complain. Quiet times with no obligations are the ultimate luxury. :)
 

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Spunky introverts! Those are the worst kind! As for a real contribution to this thread...

...I got nothin'.
 
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Yes, that is what they tell them because they don't really know what else to tell them.

I would tell them to stop waiting and start daiting!

 
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And so I'm curious. What advice does the church give to our older single communities? If you are a Christian single in your 50's, 60's, 70's, and beyond...
"Singles older than 30? What's that? That's a myth, propagated by the world, I tell ya! We don't have any of those! Ha ha ha ha, should we be giving Godly advice to the Loch Ness monster or Bigfoot? Oh, by the way, Nancy, you'll be watching everyone's kids at the church sleepover while the rest of us are on the couple's retreat. I mean, since you don't have a husband or kids, obviously that responsibility falls to you. Here's the diaper bags. Some of the teens from the youth group might help, but you'll probably need to keep an eye on them, too..."

It has been said that it is better to have loved and lost than never to have known what love is. Someone much wiser than me has said this. I believe it to be true also.
[video=youtube_share;lwHdW5BIVo8]http://youtu.be/lwHdW5BIVo8?t=34s[/video]

I'm not sure that just because someone is a poet makes everything they say wise. :p If you find the Bible verse that specifically (CONTEXTUALLY) affirms Tennyson's most famous poem, then I'm all ears. *winks*

The most horrible part for me is knowing that love exists, but that he chose to give it to someone else.

Would I have been better off not knowing someone could understand me the way he did? Sometimes I think so.
THIS.

I am mixed race my mother being British and white, I never knew my father but he gave me a really nice suntan. The difficulty is that most people when they envisage who they will marry, tend to automatically look within the their own culture and race.
Perhaps in Britain; in the US, multiracial marriages are fairly common in most places that aren't the deep south. While same-race marriage is more common than mixed race marriage in the US, it is hardly rare or unusual. There IS a tendency to be drawn to those who are similar to us, but at the same time, there is can also be a subliminal sense of exoticism about someone from another race which can be quite alluring. (Exoticism is NOT why I tend to be drawn to white women, though. I just am. Also, exoticism is not why older white men are drawn to Asian women in the US, as Kim can tell you. *smirk* )

Spunky introverts! Those are the worst kind! As for a real contribution to this thread...

...I got nothin'.
Because your church has nothing specifically for your demographic, right? *grin*
 
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Oops, I meant Tennyson of course. :rolleyes:
 
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I'm posting here so I can listen in on the conversation. I'm fairly new to being single again after the death of a beloved spouse... just starting to get back into the adventure that is dating (hopefully).
 

seoulsearch

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I'm so sorry to hear about your loss, Olerica. :(

Welcome to CC--I hope you have an enjoyable time here, and will feel free to share your experiences and wisdom with the rest of us.
 
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Thank you! God is good, and he really does provide all of our needs.

As for being an older single? I have not really dated much... and I'm not in an area where there are a lot of men, let alone a lot of Christian men. It's an adventure. That said, I figure that if God wants me to remarry, he'll provide a man to his standard who appeals to me as well. :) One of my friends said to me recently, "If God hasn't provided it, apparently I haven't needed it... yet" Sometimes that thought rankles me. Sometimes it's a huge comfort.
 
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I think there's a bit of a danger in 'waiting on the Lord' for a spouse. i think it paints a picture that while i'm sitting in my recliner eating ice cream and watching die hard, there will be a knock on the door of my future wife who needs help with a stalled car that coasted to a stop right at my mailbox and that I happened to have the right part for because I ordered the wrong thing on line two days prior and so she comes in and and I had miraculously cleaned the place up just hours ago and she says "is that chocolate mint?" and i go 'yeah' and she says 'that's like my favorite' and i say 'you know what, i've got plenty and you look like you need a break - so you sit here and let me see if i can get ya back running' and she says 'you would be such my hero, this is like a God-send that i landed here' and i think....... ..... no. Because it doesn't happen and i wake up and i'm still sitting in a recliner with melting ice cream.
Instead, i'm reminded of the parable in Matthew 25 about the master with the bags of gold. He gives much to each of his servants according to their abilities and he gives one guy 5 bags of gold, another 2 and another 1. The man with the most gold makes 5 more and such with the man with 2, but the man with 1 bag was afraid and knew his master was a hard man, so he buried his gold so he wouldn't lose any of it. The master came back and was very pleased with every one who doubled their gold but the man who buried it was admonished because he didn't even earn the interest on his gold. His gold was then given to the man with the now 10 bags of gold.
I think God gives us gifts and expects us to use them. To some He give much and to other He gives less - each according to our abilities - but He expects us to take our gifts and make more. in much the same way, I like Zero's response to stop waiting and start dating. Start an ACTION. Invest your gold if a new spouse is what you want to spend it on. Some are content with not really wanting a spouse, but I think the danger in 'waiting' is a form of sloth.