Is Love and Romance Only For the Young?

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seoulsearch

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I've been really touched to read all the heartfelt, sincere posts here. I've read every post and some of them have made my heart swell up a bit with emotion... I hope people will continue to share as they feel led.

Cinder, if you and I are ever in the same proximity, you can play video games and I will make us sandwiches. :D

Cmarieh, thank you for your kind words. And as you can see, I'm a BIT of an emotional poster too :p, so no worries! *hug*
 

Desdichado

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Cinder, if you and I are ever in the same proximity, you can play video games and I will make us sandwiches. :D
You say things like this and you are still single?

I'm shocked. I mean it is a man's dream sentence.
 

seoulsearch

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You say things like this and you are still single?

I'm shocked. I mean it is a man's dream sentence.
Thanks, Desdichado! Maybe I just don't make the right kind of sandwiches! :p
 

Desdichado

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Thanks, Desdichado! Maybe I just don't make the right kind of sandwiches! :p
I like real, Thanksgiving leftover-style turkey with provolone cheese, lettuce, green peppers, and a dash of mayo/chipotle sauce.

If this is the kind of sandwich you have in mind, served during a Mario Kart 64 session, I just might propose.
 

Desdichado

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I mean it won't get you to the Promised Land, but about half-way there. Past the Sinai at least.
 

seoulsearch

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I mean it won't get you to the Promised Land, but about half-way there. Past the Sinai at least.
Either that, or maybe I'll just wind up marching around the mountain 40 times... And would that be Mt. Sinai... or Mt. Salami...

A LONG time ago when I was married, my brother came to visit so he and my then-husband went on an Extreme Gaming Marathon. If I remember right, it last four days (I survived 4 days straight of hearing nothing but the beeping of consoles, shouting back at the screen, and the game repeatedly saying, "NODE ACTIVATED"). Every now and then, my brother would acknowledge me. By yelling something such as, "Hey, bring us some food!!!"

So they wouldn't have to stop, of course.

If I remember right, one of the things I made them was tacos.
 
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cmarieh

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I've been really touched to read all the heartfelt, sincere posts here. I've read every post and some of them have made my heart swell up a bit with emotion... I hope people will continue to share as they feel led.

Cinder, if you and I are ever in the same proximity, you can play video games and I will make us sandwiches. :D

Cmarieh, thank you for your kind words. And as you can see, I'm a BIT of an emotional poster too :p, so no worries! *hug*
Okay, good makes me feel better. **HUGS**
 

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1. Love and Romance is not only for the young... I personally smile at the thought of having love and romance as an old wrinkly man. :)

2. Your single... that is pretty cool actually. We as singles have more time, less responsibilities, and more potential to serve God and grow.

3. Jesus was single and content... you can be happy as a single as-well.

It's not hopeless. Good stuff can come out of this no matter what.
 
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sassylady

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I think it is easier to find somebody when you are young and good looking and don't have kids to bring into the marriage. I often feel pretty discouraged because I'm in my 50's and have three still at home (going to school) and a lot of men don't want anything to do with another woman's children. I'm not as slim as I once was and am showing age and wonder if there can possibly be a Christian man who wants somebody who follows the Lord rather than somebody who looks good.
 
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I think it is easier to find somebody when you are young and good looking and don't have kids to bring into the marriage. I often feel pretty discouraged because I'm in my 50's and have three still at home (going to school) and a lot of men don't want anything to do with another woman's children. I'm not as slim as I once was and am showing age and wonder if there can possibly be a Christian man who wants somebody who follows the Lord rather than somebody who looks good.
Sassy, I'm sorry to hear this. How old are your children?
 
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sassylady

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Sassy, I'm sorry to hear this. How old are your children?
My son is 22 and my daughters are 20. It's not like a need a babysitter to go out on a date for goodness sake. I have to realize I guess that the men I've dated just didn't want my kids around, they just wanted me. We are a package deal and would be even if my kids were not at home because they would still be a part of my life just like his family would be a part of our lives.

I often think if I meet the right one I would know it because he would care about my children as well as me.

Something I see a lot that is very disturbing too is the amount of men in my age group that ogle the young girls and don't even give attractive women in their age group a second look.

I feel too often like there is just no hope and no choice for me.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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♫Forever young,
I want to be forever young.
Do you really want to live forever?
Forever, and ever♫
 
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My son is 22 and my daughters are 20. It's not like a need a babysitter to go out on a date for goodness sake. I have to realize I guess that the men I've dated just didn't want my kids around, they just wanted me. We are a package deal and would be even if my kids were not at home because they would still be a part of my life just like his family would be a part of our lives.

I often think if I meet the right one I would know it because he would care about my children as well as me.

Something I see a lot that is very disturbing too is the amount of men in my age group that ogle the young girls and don't even give attractive women in their age group a second look.

I feel too often like there is just no hope and no choice for me.
These men may just be afraid that they could get stuck in a situation where the adult children never leave the nest. (It's a reality, these days...) Yours are still college age though, so you aren't at that point yet. Do the men who have this reaction have children of their own? Maybe a man who also has older (young adult) kids would be more likely to understand your priorities.
 

AsifinPassing

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Hey Singles,

I came home from church today feeling really sad and discouraged... let me tell you why.

While doing a few things to help set up for service, I had a chance to talk to a few other ladies in our Singles Group.

As I've mentioned before, our "Singles Group" is ALL women. The youngest is in her mid-20's and the rest are in their mid-40's to around 85. EVERY SINGLE week, if you attend this church, you'll step through the doors and see nearly all of these beautiful women serving somewhere in our church, whether greeting, organizing, passing out bulletins, working in the cafe... As well as teaching Bible classes or leading small groups throughout the week and helping raise funds for others.

And most of them all have the same wish in common--they would like to be married. These gorgeous, generous, loving women are always giving of themselves, and always pouring into my own life ("Hey there, Pretty Girl, we always love seeing you here!") and yet... year after year... they find themselves alone and without a companion. But they would very much like to be married.

I had a chance to talk with a precious older woman today (I see her as an auntie). She is a strong Christian woman who had a loving, Christian marriage for nearly 5 decades that ended only because the Lord called her husband home. We were talking about our lives as singles and she told me she has a hard time finding anyone who wants to commit or who would consider her age range because most men want someone decades younger. She told me, "Honey, I'm going to be (in my late 70's) next month... There is NO one. My only hope is to find someone in his 90's!!"

These are beautiful, intelligent, funny, and extremely compassionate women. But yet, year after year, they remain alone. Just. Like. Me. I pay a lot more attention to them now than when I was younger, because I realize more and more that in them, I may be looking at The Person I Am To Become.

I thought about all the "good Christian advice" all "the good Christians" give us singles... and these women (and I'm sure men, if we actually had any men in our Singles Group) are all following that advice to a T, as they have been for years.

"Fall in love with Jesus!!!" everyone says. And I'm sure these fine ladies have been in love with Jesus for years. But the desire to find a special someone still flickers in their hearts, and all that comes to pass is time.

I silently hung my head as I walked into the sanctuary and prayed, "Lord, I don't know anyone who serves you more faithfully or joyfully than these women. They're all so excited to see people come to know You and are so gracious to anyone who needs help or has a question. And yet, here they are, always alone. And I know they don't want to be. Lord, who is going to love them, or care for them, or cherish them or tell them how beautiful they are?" My heart often aches for these women, and I worry about who will look after them. Who will guard and keep their hearts?

I thought about this all through the service. And when I drove home afterwards, I prayed, "Lord, is this what you intended? Are you happy with the way things are? Is it your will for older singles to still have that romantic hope that never quite completely dies... but yet is never fulfilled? (After all, the Bible says that hope deferred makes the heart sick.) Should we all give up after a certain age, and do nothing else but care about the church and our other same-gender friends?"

I have a plan in that one of these days, I'm going to get to church early in order to hand out flowers to each of these women I see serving week after week.

But alas, I am not a handsome Godly male suitor to sweep them off their feet, as I wish each of them would find.

Are love and romance only for the young? Is there a certain point in life where you should just give up, or do we spend a lifetime wishing for something that may very well pass us by?
So many things...but to start, apparently I need to come to your church! ^_~ I honestly say that as a pun... I'm not 'hungry like the wolf' I once Duran I Duran. Nonetheless:

I hear you, Kim. No, it's obviously not just for the young, but I will say that I do think sometimes we're a little over-romanticized. Life's not a fairy-tale, and I don't say that despairingly. In fact, sometimes it's quite different and much better than those fantasies. Anyway...that's another topic for another time...

Not every wish will come true, I think, but I also don't feel like giving up is right. I tried that, and someone came into my life during that time. God taught me many things, and though it didn't work out, I still feel good came from it all.

As far as the issue of men coming to sweep them off their feet.... Here's the thing. There are more women in the world with men... ._. which was a depressing fact back when I was trying a little to hard... and though there are a great deal of Christian, we are not the majority. Even more-so, not all 'Christians' are really deeply devoted disciples of Jesus Christ. (well, that was cheery, eh?)

Look, I don't mean to say that with intent to cast a negative light, but I'm trying to think about and process this with you. Remember, you brought it up. ^_~

Then, you get to cases like me. I do, earnestly, try to live my life with, in, and for Christ Jesus. By no means am I anything or anyone extraordinary beyond what God has done, and as Paul mentioned, have a great deal of faults and failures in which I could boast if I should ever seek to...

So, then I get to this crossroads, tough and pull, split or rift if you will... I have a deep desire to love a woman with everything I have and everything I am, and for her to love me in Kind, but I also have both sober judgement and critical bias toward myself.

I don't deserve her, and she certainly doesn't deserve a man like me. At my best, of course, she deserves to be loved, helped, held, cherished, nourished in mind, body, and spirit...and at my best, of course, I could do and be that...but, more often than not, I am NOT my best, and could she really want, love, put up with... a broken and messed up excuse for a man, Me, like Jesus does day after day?

It could be fear. It could be defeat. It could be many things, but despite all the whether tos and why fors..here we are. What should I do? What should other do? Honestly, I don't know, so I pray. God teach me and help me and change me, please! Other than that, I wait and watch... That's not some joke or moral story... just the truth from my perspective and reality. Thanks for reading, even more for posting, and greater still for whatever response you may have to this, lol.
 
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Galahad

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Hey Singles,
Are love and romance only for the young? Is there a certain point in life where you should just give up, or do we spend a lifetime wishing for something that may very well pass us by?
Hope you don't mind me answering, I'm not single.

44 is not "old." When you reach 78, then you Might - and I emphasize might - be getting old and start to wonder if marriage is in the future. If any one is 78 or above, please don't take this as insulting.

People today are not getting married as soon as they used to. And marriages are decreasing. Lots of folks choosing to stay single.

Yes, you should stop wishing. Wishing will only discourage you. It's passive.

Instead, start praying. Meditating. Then doing. Start looking for a male to be a friend. Etc.
But pray.

Pray for patience, for rest and comfort in your soul. Pray and ask God to bring someone into your life.

Give up wishing, but continue seeking the Lord.
 
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skylove7

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Love and romance is not just for the young! But it does take time to find the meant to be for you. :)
 

seoulsearch

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Hope you don't mind me answering, I'm not single.

44 is not "old." When you reach 78, then you Might - and I emphasize might - be getting old and start to wonder if marriage is in the future. If any one is 78 or above, please don't take this as insulting.

People today are not getting married as soon as they used to. And marriages are decreasing. Lots of folks choosing to stay single.

Yes, you should stop wishing. Wishing will only discourage you. It's passive.

Instead, start praying. Meditating. Then doing. Start looking for a male to be a friend. Etc.
But pray.

Pray for patience, for rest and comfort in your soul. Pray and ask God to bring someone into your life.

Give up wishing, but continue seeking the Lord.
Hi Galahad,

Here in singles, we welcome compassionate and helpful insight from everyone, married or single. :)

There are a few things you should know about my background. First of all, I'm not a "wishing without action" kind of person. I was pretty much born in church and have been involved in it all my life. I was married from age 23-25, until my husband left without explanation, which I found out through friends, was another girl. He divorced me in 1999, which was... 16 years ago? At this rate, I could very well go another 16 years and still be single, putting me near 60 years old, and that is the perspective I'm coming from.

I know, I know. People always say, "You're just a baby, you have plenty of time." They told me that when I was 25. They still said that when I was 35. And yes, they try to tell me that now. Not many of the people who tell me that, however, have been single for nearly as long, so they've never lived the single life for several decades, as is becoming my experience. I'm not too far away from 45... Two decades after my divorce. I personally feel that when you can start talking in decades... you know some time has passed, and you've gained a bit of experience to speak from. Ironically to me, I have a relative who is very close to becoming a centurion, and they have never, ever told me that I was "so young with plenty of time", even though in comparison to them, anyone who isn't at least 85 years old may as well just a toddler. Instead, my relative always tells me, "I pray a special prayer for you at night, honey, because I don't know how you've made it alone all these years." God bless this person's compassion and understanding!!!

Galahad, I appreciate your taking the time to post, I really do. I know you mean all the best.

But it does get frustrating as a lifelong Christian to be told to pray, meditate, seek God, ask God for someone... as if I haven't been doing that for decades. It just always makes me wonder, why do people assume a person ISN'T doing these things? Just because I'm not remarried yet? That certainly doesn't mean I've been passively waiting for someone.

And, as I've written in other posts, I've spent the time doing all I could do within the church--classes, volunteer work among a wide age range, choir, writing to and visiting inmates... I even enjoyed simple things like going and cleaning the toys in the nursery on Saturday mornings and wiping down/sanitizing pews during church cleanup days.

My posts aren't from someone who is sitting around waiting for someone to drop out of the sky on her doorstep. But rather, they are a bit of a lament from a person who, like so many others before, around, and after her, is actively living out her faith... but gets a bit discouraged at what I see in my surroundings.
 
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Galahad

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Hi Galahad,

Here in singles, we welcome compassionate and helpful insight from everyone, married or single. :)

There are a few things you should know about my background. First of all, I'm not a "wishing without action" kind of person. I was pretty much born in church and have been involved in it all my life. I was married from age 23-25, until my husband left without explanation, which I found out through friends, was another girl. He divorced me in 1999, which was... 16 years ago? At this rate, I could very well go another 16 years and still be single, putting me near 60 years old, and that is the perspective I'm coming from.

I know, I know. People always say, "You're just a baby, you have plenty of time." They told me that when I was 25. They still said that when I was 35. And yes, they try to tell me that now. Not many of the people who tell me that, however, have been single for nearly as long, so they've never lived the single life for several decades, as is becoming my experience. I'm not too far away from 45... Two decades after my divorce. I personally feel that when you can start talking in decades... you know some time has passed, and you've gained a bit of experience to speak from. Ironically to me, I have a relative who is very close to becoming a centurion, and they have never, ever told me that I was "so young with plenty of time", even though in comparison to them, anyone who isn't at least 85 years old may as well just a toddler. Instead, my relative always tells me, "I pray a special prayer for you at night, honey, because I don't know how you've made it alone all these years." God bless this person's compassion and understanding!!!

Galahad, I appreciate your taking the time to post, I really do. I know you mean all the best.

But it does get frustrating as a lifelong Christian to be told to pray, meditate, seek God, ask God for someone... as if I haven't been doing that for decades. It just always makes me wonder, why do people assume a person ISN'T doing these things? Just because I'm not remarried yet? That certainly doesn't mean I've been passively waiting for someone.

And, as I've written in other posts, I've spent the time doing all I could do within the church--classes, volunteer work among a wide age range, choir, writing to and visiting inmates... I even enjoyed simple things like going and cleaning the toys in the nursery on Saturday mornings and wiping down/sanitizing pews during church cleanup days.

My posts aren't from someone who is sitting around waiting for someone to drop out of the sky on her doorstep. But rather, they are a bit of a lament from a person who, like so many others before, around, and after her, is actively living out her faith... but gets a bit discouraged at what I see in my surroundings.

Such a shame your husband did that to you. I am certain that was a most painful experience for you.
No. I did not mean to suggest you were sitting around and not trying. My apologies. So sorry.
But I see where I left that impression. I was sleepy when I wrote it.

The only reason I emphasized prayer and stop wishing was because the word wishing is a bit of a hint into how you are feeling. Pain. Loneliness. Sorrow.

I know nothing about the online match sites for Christian singles. You may have already tried. If so, would you consider trying again?

What is your talent? What do you like to do?
Invest, perhaps in activities related to your talent. Or to a passion of yours. You'll find yourself meeting more people. Being busy.

Also, are there any women you can confide in and get advice or help from?

And no, marriage is not just for young people.

Again, I did not mean or intend to suggest you were passive. I sensed you were active in trying to meet someone.

My sincerest apologies.

Galahad
 

seoulsearch

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Such a shame your husband did that to you. I am certain that was a most painful experience for you.
No. I did not mean to suggest you were sitting around and not trying. My apologies. So sorry.
But I see where I left that impression. I was sleepy when I wrote it.

The only reason I emphasized prayer and stop wishing was because the word wishing is a bit of a hint into how you are feeling. Pain. Loneliness. Sorrow.

I know nothing about the online match sites for Christian singles. You may have already tried. If so, would you consider trying again?

What is your talent? What do you like to do?
Invest, perhaps in activities related to your talent. Or to a passion of yours. You'll find yourself meeting more people. Being busy.

Also, are there any women you can confide in and get advice or help from?

And no, marriage is not just for young people.

Again, I did not mean or intend to suggest you were passive. I sensed you were active in trying to meet someone.

My sincerest apologies.

Galahad
Hi Galahad,

Thank you so much for your kind consideration. No need to apologize. But if you made a list of everything a Godly Christian single is told to do, I assure you I can check everything off the list. At least 5 times. And I certainly don't mean that in arrogance or own credit (to God be the glory alone), but rather, as fact.

Back in the day, I was studying to be a criminal psychologist. I left grad school because of my divorce--instead, I opted to take a full-time job to pay bills. So I ventured out a bit on my own, writing and visiting inmates in my free time, and while it's something I miss, it's also something that, in about a 5-year period, drained me beyond what I could handle. I've always been interested in people who have gone through extreme things. I've always wanted to be able to go to a veteran's hospital and talk to the recovering soldiers there, even though I know I would see and hear a lot of things beyond my capacity. Maybe God is using this time to strengthen me for the day when I could go and do that.

Invest in hobbies and interests? Check. Classes and activities to put me around people? Double check. Surrounding myself with Godly women? Use single time to get closer to God? Triple check. (I'd already read through the Bible completely about twice on my own before my divorce; I've since used the time, in addition to all my church activities and enrichment classes, to read it through about 4 more times.)

I think what it boils down to is, as Ephesians 6:13 says, "(and, having done all you know to do), to stand", and Psalm 46:10, "Be still, and know that I am God."

Maybe what some of us really need isn't another list of all the same suggestions over and over again (because in singles we talk about this a lot, how we're always given the same checklist), and more encouragement in our stand.

Thank you for taking the time to post, Galahad. Your sincerity is most appreciated.
 
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Love and romance is only for the young... and the rich.

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