Is Love and Romance Only For the Young?

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seoulsearch

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Hey Singles,

I came home from church today feeling really sad and discouraged... let me tell you why.

While doing a few things to help set up for service, I had a chance to talk to a few other ladies in our Singles Group.

As I've mentioned before, our "Singles Group" is ALL women. The youngest is in her mid-20's and the rest are in their mid-40's to around 85. EVERY SINGLE week, if you attend this church, you'll step through the doors and see nearly all of these beautiful women serving somewhere in our church, whether greeting, organizing, passing out bulletins, working in the cafe... As well as teaching Bible classes or leading small groups throughout the week and helping raise funds for others.

And most of them all have the same wish in common--they would like to be married. These gorgeous, generous, loving women are always giving of themselves, and always pouring into my own life ("Hey there, Pretty Girl, we always love seeing you here!") and yet... year after year... they find themselves alone and without a companion. But they would very much like to be married.

I had a chance to talk with a precious older woman today (I see her as an auntie). She is a strong Christian woman who had a loving, Christian marriage for nearly 5 decades that ended only because the Lord called her husband home. We were talking about our lives as singles and she told me she has a hard time finding anyone who wants to commit or who would consider her age range because most men want someone decades younger. She told me, "Honey, I'm going to be (in my late 70's) next month... There is NO one. My only hope is to find someone in his 90's!!"

These are beautiful, intelligent, funny, and extremely compassionate women. But yet, year after year, they remain alone. Just. Like. Me. I pay a lot more attention to them now than when I was younger, because I realize more and more that in them, I may be looking at The Person I Am To Become.

I thought about all the "good Christian advice" all "the good Christians" give us singles... and these women (and I'm sure men, if we actually had any men in our Singles Group) are all following that advice to a T, as they have been for years.

"Fall in love with Jesus!!!" everyone says. And I'm sure these fine ladies have been in love with Jesus for years. But the desire to find a special someone still flickers in their hearts, and all that comes to pass is time.

I silently hung my head as I walked into the sanctuary and prayed, "Lord, I don't know anyone who serves you more faithfully or joyfully than these women. They're all so excited to see people come to know You and are so gracious to anyone who needs help or has a question. And yet, here they are, always alone. And I know they don't want to be. Lord, who is going to love them, or care for them, or cherish them or tell them how beautiful they are?" My heart often aches for these women, and I worry about who will look after them. Who will guard and keep their hearts?

I thought about this all through the service. And when I drove home afterwards, I prayed, "Lord, is this what you intended? Are you happy with the way things are? Is it your will for older singles to still have that romantic hope that never quite completely dies... but yet is never fulfilled? (After all, the Bible says that hope deferred makes the heart sick.) Should we all give up after a certain age, and do nothing else but care about the church and our other same-gender friends?"

I have a plan in that one of these days, I'm going to get to church early in order to hand out flowers to each of these women I see serving week after week.

But alas, I am not a handsome Godly male suitor to sweep them off their feet, as I wish each of them would find.

Are love and romance only for the young? Is there a certain point in life where you should just give up, or do we spend a lifetime wishing for something that may very well pass us by?
 
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I wanted to respond. I don't know the answer, but I see it too. I pray the same prayer.
 
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zaoman32

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Hey Singles,

I came home from church today feeling really sad and discouraged... let me tell you why.

While doing a few things to help set up for service, I had a chance to talk to a few other ladies in our Singles Group.

As I've mentioned before, our "Singles Group" is ALL women. The youngest is in her mid-20's and the rest are in their mid-40's to around 85. EVERY SINGLE week, if you attend this church, you'll step through the doors and see nearly all of these beautiful women serving somewhere in our church, whether greeting, organizing, passing out bulletins, working in the cafe... As well as teaching Bible classes or leading small groups throughout the week and helping raise funds for others.

And most of them all have the same wish in common--they would like to be married. These gorgeous, generous, loving women are always giving of themselves, and always pouring into my own life ("Hey there, Pretty Girl, we always love seeing you here!") and yet... year after year... they find themselves alone and without a companion. But they would very much like to be married.

I had a chance to talk with a precious older woman today (I see her as an auntie). She is a strong Christian woman who had a loving, Christian marriage for nearly 5 decades that ended only because the Lord called her husband home. We were talking about our lives as singles and she told me she has a hard time finding anyone who wants to commit or who would consider her age range because most men want someone decades younger. She told me, "Honey, I'm going to be (in my late 70's) next month... There is NO one. My only hope is to find someone in his 90's!!"

These are beautiful, intelligent, funny, and extremely compassionate women. But yet, year after year, they remain alone. Just. Like. Me. I pay a lot more attention to them now than when I was younger, because I realize more and more that in them, I may be looking at The Person I Am To Become.

I thought about all the "good Christian advice" all "the good Christians" give us singles... and these women (and I'm sure men, if we actually had any men in our Singles Group) are all following that advice to a T, as they have been for years.

"Fall in love with Jesus!!!" everyone says. And I'm sure these fine ladies have been in love with Jesus for years. But the desire to find a special someone still flickers in their hearts, and all that comes to pass is time.

I silently hung my head as I walked into the sanctuary and prayed, "Lord, I don't know anyone who serves you more faithfully or joyfully than these women. They're all so excited to see people come to know You and are so gracious to anyone who needs help or has a question. And yet, here they are, always alone. And I know they don't want to be. Lord, who is going to love them, or care for them, or cherish them or tell them how beautiful they are?" My heart often aches for these women, and I worry about who will look after them. Who will guard and keep their hearts?

I thought about this all through the service. And when I drove home afterwards, I prayed, "Lord, is this what you intended? Are you happy with the way things are? Is it your will for older singles to still have that romantic hope that never quite completely dies... but yet is never fulfilled? (After all, the Bible says that hope deferred makes the heart sick.) Should we all give up after a certain age, and do nothing else but care about the church and our other same-gender friends?"

I have a plan in that one of these days, I'm going to get to church early in order to hand out flowers to each of these women I see serving week after week.

But alas, I am not a handsome Godly male suitor to sweep them off their feet, as I wish each of them would find.

Are love and romance only for the young? Is there a certain point in life where you should just give up, or do we spend a lifetime wishing for something that may very well pass us by?
The desire for love runs deep inside everyone I think. Some, more deeply than others. We actually had a sermon today about why bad things happen to good people, and the person preaching actually mentioned divorced individuals, and singles who aren't finding anyone, which I think is something "bad" for certain people but is consistently overlooked because people just don't think about it. But He gave three possible reasons, 1. It could be because we live in a broken world 2. It could be a situation caused by our own choices 3. It could be God wants to use us for something based on that situation. He also said, very definitely, that God will use it for a greater purpose.

Those are very christiany answers, and he did acknowledge that, but the fact also remains that they are honest answers. And it doesn't make things much easier, but what else is there to say really? It sucks, and I know it sucks. Whether or not to give up, who's to say but the individuals themselves? It's something they can choose to dwell on or not, but the desire will be there either way.

Why do you always ask hard questions?
 

seoulsearch

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Zao and Olerica,

Thank you for your compassionate answers.

One of the reasons this hit me so hard is because, as I posted elsewhere, the date of my ex-wedding anniversary is coming up, and it still breaks my heart every year, even though I've been divorced since 1999.

As I also wrote in another post, why does everything thing to fall onto your heart like a ton of bricks during this time of year? I hadn't heard this song in years (All At Once, by Whitney Houston), but I've heard it THREE times in the past week and a half and the lyrics just kill me every time: "All at once, the smile that used to greet me, brightened someone else's day. She took your smile away... and left me with just memories... all at once."

My computer was playing random YouTube videos the other day while I was doing chores and something came on about "Castlevania", which was one of my ex's favorite games, and one I'd surprised him with for some occasion. I used to watch him play or could hear him play in the next room while I was cooking or whatever.

And suddenly all I could think of was that instead of the lonely echo of washing dishes by myself here in the present, I desperately wished I could be 24 again and listening to the comforting sounds of someone playing a video game in the next room.

Yup, it's pathetic. But very, very real.

And I always wonder if those days have passed by my own life forever, never to return.
 
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cmarieh

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Servantstrike asked me yesterday why I was still single and that some man is missing out. I responded that God wasn't ready for that to happen in my life yet and I know its true. Today, I keep asking myself that very question why doesn't a good, strong Christian man want me? Am I desirable enough? I mean these questions keep haunting me and I know they come from the enemy and I rebuke them right away so peaceful thoughts come in. Honestly, people have told me that I have so many admirable qualities and that any man would be lucky to have me in their life but it seems that no man really wants that. If a man truly wanted those qualities why are these women who has everything going for them are still in the single game and they should be appreciated by a man in their life. Seoul, I apologize for continuing on with your question but I don't understand why men say one thing and do the complete opposite when it comes to a relationship. I am not sure if it is insecurities or what, but it does leave us women in questioning our own value.

I am a firm believer in people finding love at any age and it comes in any shape, size, and color. Seoul, you seem as a very articulate woman and I am surprised that a man hasn't found what a precious gem your truly are and value you for being a child of the most high God and want to spoil you with love and affection. I know you will find it
 

p_rehbein

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No.

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cinder

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And suddenly all I could think of was that instead of the lonely echo of washing dishes by myself here in the present, I desperately wished I could be 24 again and listening to the comforting sounds of someone playing a video game in the next room.

And I always wonder if those days have passed by my own life forever, never to return.
I can't help you with the 24 again part, but if you really want a live-in video game player and background noise maker I think I could handle that. I'll need to get a job after I return to the US anyway and this one sounds like one I'd enjoy. :p

On a slightly more serious note, if I meet any awesome christian men that are just a bit too old for me, I'll be sure to recommend you as a great alternative to their singleness.

Servantstrike asked me yesterday why I was still single and that some man is missing out. I responded that God wasn't ready for that to happen in my life yet and I know its true. Today, I keep asking myself that very question why doesn't a good, strong Christian man want me? Am I desirable enough? I mean these questions keep haunting me and I know they come from the enemy and I rebuke them right away so peaceful thoughts come in. Honestly, people have told me that I have so many admirable qualities and that any man would be lucky to have me in their life but it seems that no man really wants that. If a man truly wanted those qualities why are these women who has everything going for them are still in the single game and they should be appreciated by a man in their life. Seoul, I apologize for continuing on with your question but I don't understand why men say one thing and do the complete opposite when it comes to a relationship. I am not sure if it is insecurities or what, but it does leave us women in questioning our own value.
I've struggled with this too. But I think many people tend to underestimate their own value and consequently think they aren't good enough for someone who is really good. Kind of that old cliche about breaking up with you because I'm not good enough for you, only in this case they never get things started by asking you out. I suffer from this a little too in that if I find someone I really admire, well I usually can't imagine what I have to offer them that they should want to keep me around, but sometimes you just have to accept that people just plain like you for whatever unfathomable reasons of their own.
 

Roh_Chris

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Are love and romance only for the young? Is there a certain point in life where you should just give up, or do we spend a lifetime wishing for something that may very well pass us by?

Yep, love and romance is ONLY for the young ...




.... for the young at heart.



Seriously, you cannot enjoy love and romance if you think or act old. And Kim, you are so young at heart that I think you are lying about your age. :p
 

egeiro

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Oh, my beloved sisters.

I hear this subtle cry from your words, one that desperately asks, "Who will love me? Who will value me?"

And it breaks my heart hearing that.

I get it. We're designed for relationship, we're fashioned to have someone by our side, as a man and woman together create the most accurate representation of the Godhead. Something seems right when the man who is made to reflect certain natures of God's character comes together with a woman who reflects another side of God's nature, and together, become one. What an honour it is to stand beside someone and co-reign as lovers of God, glorifying Him together.

But the groan I believe I am hearing is deeper than just a man recognising your beauty and value.

All of heaven went bankrupt for you. Now if that is the price that was paid for you, then you can say that your value is beyond our wildest imagination. You are so precious in the sight of Jesus, you were the joy set before Him as He lovingly laid down His life.

No man can out-do God's love song over your life. It is the song of the bridegroom that pierces the soul and sets hearts alight. It is one that satisfies the deepest groanings of the human heart and soothes the most savage of storms that accumulate in our minds. He is Love. And our God is relentless in this love. It is the wildest tidal wave that crashes over us.

I love the words to a spontaneous song from Steffany Gretzinger: "You can love me more in a moment, than all the lovers could in a lifetime." And it is true, so true.

Time is in God's hands. Society has set so many expectations on us, and milestones to meet by certain chronological points in life... who says? Who says this is for all of us? What a stress and anxious cloud we have sheltered under? What a heavy weight.

Time may pass, and you hold your dreams with outstretched fingertips, saying, "See Lord, I know You are good, You know my desires, here is my life and dreams, I would love to see this come true". But in what ever circumstance, however long the wait, however many moments when hope seems to come and seems to leave, or when hope seems like a long forgotten word stored in dusty places.... no man can out love you the way Jesus, Champion, Warrior King, Prince of Peace, Hope of all Glory, the burning one who is love, can love you. No one can.

Your value does not rest in what a man can say or share with you, it begins and ends with what God says about you, and quite frankly, there are many love letters found in His word that are ready to pump life back in to your hearts.

Holy Spirit was called the Comforter for a reason. This life was going to be uncomfortable. Whether we face martyrdom, or whether we face persecution, whether we are bullied, abused, hurt, lonely, longing. Whether we bear the pain of a miscarriage, lose loved ones, see family members walk away from the faith, or even, yes, walk the rest of this life alone, this remains true: the veil was torn, the Comforter came in power and made His home in you so you will never walk this life alone. He is closer than your very heart beat and He has already heard the ache before you felt it.

We feel. And we long. We cry, and we ache. But in all circumstances, we have hope when all seems hopeless. We have love in abundance and overflow.

I can't tell you what to do from now, or give you another angle to look at your situation with... all I can say is that you are loved... and Jesus is beautiful... so beautiful.
 

Lynx

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Life is life, and that's all there is to it
Ain't nothing to do but to go through it
Just taking one day after another
On your way try to help a sister or brother
Use whatever you can for whatever it's worth
Try to make the best of your spot on earth


I'm reminded of a 2D space shooter (video game) I play. WAIT, don't tune me out, I'm going somewhere with this! It's a "rogue-like" game, which means every time you play a game there are different star systems, different shops, different everything. Sometimes it's hard to find that armor you like, sometimes you can't get a Korolov mission (escorting-defending freighters) for a good few star systems... shoot, my last game I couldn't find a targeting program to save my ship's life! That's part of the game though. You use what you find and get through the game as best you can.

I'm 37 and I've never even been on a date before. Do I get blue about it? Sure I do sometimes. I'd have to be a robot to not let it bug me occasionally. But if I never find a wife I can make it through life. If I do find a wife, yay! Either way I'll get up tomorrow morning and live another day and probably enjoy it.
 

JesusLives

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I used to look at couples who didn't look like they belonged together and say....See!! they have someone who wants and loves them....Why don't I have anyone?.....and years rolled by. I got married the first time way too young had to have a permission slip to do it and then my teenage husband and I grew up and grew apart and divorced by the time we were 24.

Then 35 years went by...with me questioning and becoming a much stronger personality....(which most men don't like too much)....and I became very fluffy....overweight (which most men don't like either) and I said to myself the only way someone is going to love me is if they get to know me on the inside first.....Because most go by the outside attraction and don't give you a chance to get to know the inside.....

Single most of my twenties, all of my thirties, forties, and just short of all of my fifties. Wondering why, questioning why, wasn't there someone out there for me??? I gave up and quit wondering, quit trying and became comfortable with who I was and that God had taken care of me for so many years and that He loved me and would continue to take care of me. If you have been on CC for any length of time we all know how this story for me ends....

But as suggestions for Seoulsearch and her single ladies at her church.....network with other churches in your area or a little outside your area and have a summer singles picnic or a fall festival for singles that pull other churches in your area into singles fellowship. Certainly not every church singles group is all females there are probably a few males in there somewhere who are just as lonely as the ladies. I know the church I attended singles group would occasionally go over to the Orlando area and participate in single activities with other churches as it broadens the single pool.

You have to be willing to go out of your comfort zone once in awhile too. I know my cousin married a Catholic gentleman who ended up switching churches and they have been married for over 30 years now.

I recommend praying about a mate which I am sure most of you ladies already do, but I didn't because at the time I didn't know if I was really released to marry again as I did not know if my husband had cheated on me or not so I didn't really pray about it, but tourist was praying and God heard his prayers.... I would say to God I don't know what to pray for in this area....that was my prayer about it...

I do understand the longings, the questioning, the wish for, the wondering whys?......I became o.k. with being single and figured I would die that way....God has a plan for all of our lives....some will remain single and some just have to wait until God's plan is at the right timing.....It is up to us what we do while we wait.
 

melita916

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Are love and romance only for the young? there's an elderly patient who has been coming to our office for years. she sent a church friend (elderly gentleman) about 3 years ago to get treated. i found out last year they got married. it made me happy. so to answer this question, no.

Is there a certain point in life where you should just give up, or do we spend a lifetime wishing for something that may very well pass us by? i'll be honest. there are days i give up. there are days i'm hopeful. there are days i'm glad i'm single. there are days i wish a guy would notice me. i've only been in one relationship, and after we broke up, i spent a lot of time wondering what was wrong with me. there are days i wonder why i'm always the friend and never the girlfriend. lately, i've been encouraged as i spend time in God's presence. anytime these questions pop in my mind, Holy Spirit quickly reminds me i'm not alone. i still haven't figured it all out yet. i still have bad days, but God continues to remind me i'm His beloved.
 
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My advice is this.. win the lottery! Then you will have to choose from all those who are fighting for your attention and for your hand in marriage. Its sad but true.
 
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cmarieh

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Are love and romance only for the young? there's an elderly patient who has been coming to our office for years. she sent a church friend (elderly gentleman) about 3 years ago to get treated. i found out last year they got married. it made me happy. so to answer this question, no.

Is there a certain point in life where you should just give up, or do we spend a lifetime wishing for something that may very well pass us by? i'll be honest. there are days i give up. there are days i'm hopeful. there are days i'm glad i'm single. there are days i wish a guy would notice me. i've only been in one relationship, and after we broke up, i spent a lot of time wondering what was wrong with me. there are days i wonder why i'm always the friend and never the girlfriend. lately, i've been encouraged as i spend time in God's presence. anytime these questions pop in my mind, Holy Spirit quickly reminds me i'm not alone. i still haven't figured it all out yet. i still have bad days, but God continues to remind me i'm His beloved.
Well, put and am in agreement with you. When I am feeling hopeless I always turn to the one who created me and I feel comforted and loved and no one person can ever make me feel the way God does. I just need to keep reminding myself of that.
My advice is this.. win the lottery! Then you will have to choose from all those who are fighting for your attention and for your hand in marriage. Its sad but true.
It is very sad and true because those people who actually look to material items to be important do not have the loving marriages that God has intended for each of us to have. I actually feel sorry for those people because they honestly have no clue what real love is and that is God's love for us. I pray for those people daily that they do come to know what God's love is.
 
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cmarieh

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I wanted to apologize for what I posted earlier. I was having a really rough day and my emotions were all over the place. Please forgive me.

I did mean everything I said to you Kim.
 
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I wanted to apologize for what I posted earlier. I was having a really rough day and my emotions were all over the place. Please forgive me.

I did mean everything I said to you Kim.
You have nothing to apologize for, sister. This is us, being real with each other, and sometimes that opens up deep stuff. I really appreciate your honesty in sharing.
 
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cmarieh

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You have nothing to apologize for, sister. This is us, being real with each other, and sometimes that opens up deep stuff. I really appreciate your honesty in sharing.
Your words are so kind and inspiring every time I read your posts. I do not like sharing those raw parts of my life and in some ways I do feel guilty of them, even though I know God uses our weakest moments to make us stronger.
 
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Breeze7

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Love and romance is not only for the young. Its linking with people that is difficult. People don't want to sacrifice so much. The older we get the more we feel, "I don't have the energy or time to chase someone around". People have their normal life and routines. They feel we've/I've been doing such n such so long and never really received notice why should I go out of my way to pay notice to another. Sometimes when your not looking things come into your life, sometimes you have to look.
 
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I wanted to apologize for what I posted earlier. I was having a really rough day and my emotions were all over the place. Please forgive me.

I did mean everything I said to you Kim.
Apology accepted! Calling people who want to marry lottery winners 'materialistic' was certainly a low blow!
:p :p :p
 
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mailmandan

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Just because there is snow on the rooftop doesn't mean that there can't be fire in the furnace! :D