Marry an unbeliever knowingly and you risk hell

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I think you'll find a lot of Christians marry non-Christian men/women willingly.
I could never do it. Never, ever, ever. There's no way I could ever marry a woman who doesn't love the Lord. I couldn't go through life not being able to share my love for Jesus with my wife. Nope. Never.
 
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1 Corinthians 7:12-15

12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
The bible verses you quoted did not say that Christians should marry evil worshiping pagans.
If you use the bible verse you quoted to justify marrying an unbeliever then it means you are trying to use technicalities to justify what is a sin and what is clearly forbidden and you will be fooling no one but yourself. Its like you shooting someone dead and when you are taken in front of a judge you claim you were only trying to enforce a citizens arrest which is allowed by the law. The law may allow citizens arrest but does that mean you should shoot someone dead? Similarly Paul may have said that Christians should tolerate some unbelievers but does that mean you should knowingly marry someone that worships the devil?

Please note that there are two types of unbelievers. These are the natural born pagans and children of God that have not received their calling yet. To explain this i will like to use an analogy.

I'm sure you attended high school. In high school and in mathematics class I'm sure you studied graphs. In case you don't know, in graphs there are 3 sides on a graph. the 3 sides are the negative side to the left, the positive side to the right and the last side is the middle of the graph which is zero. Using the analogy of the graphs, believing Christians are on the positive right side of the graph, the natural born pagans who worship evil are on the negative side of the graph and the unbelievers that was being referred to in 1 Corinthians 7: 12-15 are in the middle which is the zero side. Now who are the unbelievers in the middle? they are mild unbelievers, they are children of God that have not received their calling yet and as a result they are still unbelieving and they are still sinful. For example i have met several teenage unbelievers who are children of God in university, but they have not received their calling yet so they are still out partying and fornicating but these teenage unbelievers will change their ways for good once they receive their calling. these sort of teenage unbelievers who can still be saved are the unbelievers Paul was talking about in 1 Corinthians 7: 12-15. But these sort of teenage and mild unbelievers are totally different from naturally born pagans that naturally worship the devil. believing Christians on the right side are saved, the mild unbelievers in the middle who are children of god can still cross over to the saved side on the right when they are called but the natural born pagans on the negative left side are born pagans that naturally worship evil and they cannot cross over to the saved side because they represent evil. it is these natural born pagans that are trying to get Christians to marry them with the Christians knowing that they are pagans. so when i said "marry an unbeliever knowingly and you risk hell" i meant "marry an evil worshiping pagan knowingly and you risk hell". This is why your best bet is not to marry anyone that displays signs of paganism.
Again, let he who has ears let him hear:
Deuteronomy 7: 3-4. (Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, [SUP]4 [/SUP]for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you)
 
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Please note that there are two types of unbelievers. These are the natural born pagans and children of God that have not received their calling yet.
Dude. This is really unbiblical. There are two types of people: People who have not accepted salvation through Jesus Christ's death and resurrection as atonement for all sin and those who haven't.
 
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What's a natural born pagan? You mean like New England Patriots fans?
 
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You dont risk hell, but you sure risk a miserable marriage
 
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Gaaaahhhhh!! I mean those who HAVE and those who haven't. And I can't edit it. :(
 
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Dude. This is really unbiblical. There are two types of people: People who have not accepted salvation through Jesus Christ's death and resurrection as atonement for all sin and those who haven't.
YOU ARE WRONG, IT IS BIBLICAL. who are the Canaanites and the sodomites in the bible? they are the natural born pagans who sacrifice humans to their idol gods. in those days Canaanites i.e natural born pagans lived separately from the Israelites i.e the children of God. but in modern times, nations are mixed i.e you have children of God and natural born pagans living in the same country. also the evil practices such as sacrifices which are carried out by natural born pagans are no longer carried out in the open, it is now done in secret. so you may have a nice looking young man or a pretty young lady who looks urban and unsuspicious but deep down he or she may be a pagan that practices fetishes in his or her bedroom. These natural born pagans are totally different from a child of God who is only sinful and unbelieving because he or she has not been called yet. So this gives you 3 groups: the believing chrsitians who are children of God, the unbelieving children of God that have not been called yet and the natural born pagans that represent evil. it is these natural born pagans who represent evil that try to get Christians to sin by getting the Christian to marry them with the christian knowing that they are pagan. This is why your best bet is not to marry anyone that displays signs of paganism.
Again, let he who has ears let him hear:
Deuteronomy 7: 3-4. (Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, [SUP]4 [/SUP]for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you)
 
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I think you'll find a lot of Christians marry non-Christian men/women willingly. Sure some non-Christians trap Christians, but from what I've seen it's far more likely that the Christian will marry the non-Christian man/woman of their own volition, because they love the person. By the way, I don't agree with marrying a non-Christian.
Nothings seems to be safe, or true enough.

After 53 years I´ve seen nothing is sure, except being true to all those we´ve loved.
 
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YOU ARE WRONG, IT IS BIBLICAL. who are the Canaanites and the sodomites in the bible? they are the natural born pagans who sacrifice humans to their idol gods. in those days Canaanites i.e natural born pagans lived separately from the Israelites i.e the children of God. but in modern times, nations are mixed i.e you have children of God and natural born pagans living in the same country. also the evil practices such as sacrifices which are carried out by natural born pagans are no longer carried out in the open, it is now done in secret. so you may have a nice looking young man or a pretty young lady who looks urban and unsuspicious but deep down he or she may be a pagan that practices fetishes in his or her bedroom. These natural born pagans are totally different from a child of God who is only sinful and unbelieving because he or she has not been called yet. So this gives you 3 groups: the believing chrsitians who are children of God, the unbelieving children of God that have not been called yet and the natural born pagans that represent evil. it is these natural born pagans who represent evil that try to get Christians to sin by getting the Christian to marry them with the christian knowing that they are pagan. This is why your best bet is not to marry anyone that displays signs of paganism.
Again, let he who has ears let him hear:
Deuteronomy 7: 3-4. (Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, [SUP]4 [/SUP]for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you)
She can speak for herself, but Olerica isn´t an Israelite neither a Canaanite: She´s a baker...

;)
 

Brandon88

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It's baffling how so many people on a christian forum could argue with something that should be so simply known.
 
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I think we all agree that being unequally yolked is not a wise decision. I think the point we disagree on is that it means hell for the believer.
 
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YOU ARE WRONG, IT IS BIBLICAL. who are the Canaanites and the sodomites in the bible? they are the natural born pagans who sacrifice humans to their idol gods. in those days Canaanites i.e natural born pagans lived separately from the Israelites i.e the children of God. but in modern times, nations are mixed i.e you have children of God and natural born pagans living in the same country. also the evil practices such as sacrifices which are carried out by natural born pagans are no longer carried out in the open, it is now done in secret. so you may have a nice looking young man or a pretty young lady who looks urban and unsuspicious but deep down he or she may be a pagan that practices fetishes in his or her bedroom. These natural born pagans are totally different from a child of God who is only sinful and unbelieving because he or she has not been called yet. So this gives you 3 groups: the believing chrsitians who are children of God, the unbelieving children of God that have not been called yet and the natural born pagans that represent evil. it is these natural born pagans who represent evil that try to get Christians to sin by getting the Christian to marry them with the christian knowing that they are pagan. This is why your best bet is not to marry anyone that displays signs of paganism.
Again, let he who has ears let him hear:
Deuteronomy 7: 3-4. (Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, [SUP]4 [/SUP]for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you)


Sexual sin and human sacrifice are two different sins... completely different.

And are you arguing that God allows a child to be born into this world and His promise of forgiveness does not apply to that child should they grow up to adulthood and repent of their ways and accept Christ?
 

Lynx

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All I know is Godson keeps saying "natural born pagan" so much that I begin to think he believes the serpent seed doctrine. Especially when he listed the three kinds of people: "the believing chrsitians who are children of God, the unbelieving children of God that have not been called yet and the natural born pagans that represent evil." Yup, sounds like serpent seed belief to me.
 
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You claim to be a christian but yet you don't know which bible verses forbid marrying unbelievers.
Deuteronomy 7: 3-4. (Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, [SUP]4 [/SUP]for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you)
You claim to be a believer but when asked for scriptural verification you insult a person rather than simply providing them with a reasonable request. You make the claim, other people have the right to expect you to back it up. And they don't deserve to be insulted because you didn't provide it in the first place.
And if you are so convinced everyone should know the bible backwards and forwards for being a Christian (clearly not allowing for the fact that different people are at different stages in their walk and faith) then why would you need to create such a thread? We would all already know everything in the bible to begin with. And if that is the way you, clearly, believe shouldn't you spend more time getting off your computer and going out to be a witness rather than telling people online things you think they already know?
 

Oncefallen

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All I know is Godson keeps saying "natural born pagan" so much that I begin to think he believes the serpent seed doctrine. Especially when he listed the three kinds of people: "the believing chrsitians who are children of God, the unbelieving children of God that have not been called yet and the natural born pagans that represent evil." Yup, sounds like serpent seed belief to me.
I was thinking more along the lines of what Stilly would call a Hyper Calvinist.
 
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I was thinking more along the lines of what Stilly would call a Hyper Calvinist.
That's the direction I was going. I've found when you point the Calvinists out they get a bit ruffled.
 

Brandon88

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I don't really know if you're disagreeing with me or if you're just telling me to provide more information but I will.

This is Jesus saying this. Jesus, God, who knows everything.
John 3:3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.
Link to scripture: https://biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3:3

Do you know what it means to be "born again"? It means to be born again spiritually. Completely changed and walking in the ways of God. And you have to "stay" born again. You can't just get born again and go back to your old ways.

Do you know that God isn't a sinner? You know the scripture that says it's impossible for him to sin right? You know that when Jesus comes back there won't be any sin in heaven right? How then does it put you in his "family" if you get born again and then marry someone who, not only is a sinner, doesn't even believe in God in the first place? If you really truly have been saved and if you believe in God, why would you marry someone who is just going to perish in the end and be a lost soul?

Anyone who would do such a thing knowingly not only is a sinner and has not been saved, it shows they are as far from God as planet pluto is from the core of the middle of the earth.