Points of view?

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Cruisyazz

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What is your view on a separated man or woman with kids?
Is there a first impression that comes with that status?
 
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In what regard are we viewing them? As a friend, a potential date, someone to minister to, going to hell in a hand basket?

I'm kidding about that last one. Just trying to be silly.
 
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Ugly

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If by separated you mean married but not living together then my first impression would be 'off limits'. Kids or not.
 
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Shouryu

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What is your view on a separated man or woman with kids?
Is there a first impression that comes with that status?
My first impression starts with the word 'separated,' which means MARRIED.

Anything that comes after that is irrelevant, unless that changes.
 
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I'd think they should get back together with their spouse. The separation phenomena is kinda popular these days, and I have observed it seems to almost always end up badly, even if one of the people intends well. It's kind of sad really.
 
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cmarieh

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What is your view on a separated man or woman with kids?
Is there a first impression that comes with that status?
Well, separated is not divorced so yes hands off until a few months after the divorce is finalized. However for me personally, I have no issue dating a man with children as long as he wouldn't mind having more because I would love to have children of my own and his kids aside from God is his top priority.
 
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Cruisyazz

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What if the relationship was not a godly one from the beginning and the benefit of separating seems to be the best outcome for the kids?
 
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Define "not a godly one"??

You haven't answered my first question of the way that we are being asked to view the separated person (with kids).

I'm just not feeling like I have enough information to give any advice here. :) Help a sister out? I promise my answer will be kind (no matter what the answer is).
 
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Hellooo

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cruisy, you can do what-if scenarios forever and come out with all kinds of outcomes. is there something specific that you were looking to clarify?
 
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Ugly

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I agree. The OP isn't really clear on his meaning of separated or making clear what he is seeking. Stop trying to post in such a manner as to get the answers you want to hear and give the true facts.
But regardless of the context of the (supposed) marriage, if they're married, they're married. The end.
 
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Cruisyazz

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Define "not a godly one"??

You haven't answered my first question of the way that we are being asked to view the separated person (with kids).

I'm just not feeling like I have enough information to give any advice here. :) Help a sister out? I promise my answer will be kind (no matter what the answer is).
Well your points of view would hopefully give me a little clarity (or not) into the first impressions and view point on someone's marital status as being separated with kids. For the possibility of gaining friendship and or a relationship.

I guess my personal point of view would be ensuring that they are in fact separated and that is where it would probably end. Others may have a view that goes deeper than that due to religious or personal beliefs maybe?
 
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Cruisyazz

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sorry for not being clear ugly and the rest. it is not my intent. I get pulled up for talking in riddles unintentionally with friends as well.
 
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Cruisyazz

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in regards to not a godly relationship I speak from my own experience and am not trying to draw 'what if' scenarios just for fun
 
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Well, if you are seeking a romantic/dating relationship with a person still married - and separation is still married, I would HIGHLY caution you against that. I think it's well regarded in society, not just in a Christian community that this is adultery - and the least - exceptionally unwise.

Even immediately after a divorce, I would think this was an unwise move. My experience as an observer and someone who started to get involved with someone very recently divorced... give them at a minimum 6 months... a year would be better.

Rushing into any romantic relationship is unwise. Very often, FAR too often, heartbreak ensues.
 
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Hellooo

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sorry for not being clear ugly and the rest. it is not my intent. I get pulled up for talking in riddles unintentionally with friends as well.


No worries cruise - this is a lifelong, ongoing quirk of mine - I was TERRIBLE at philosophy type classes in school -- when presented with a big idealistic question I was/am always quick to question the relevancy.
 
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Cruisyazz

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No worries cruise - this is a lifelong, ongoing quirk of mine - I was TERRIBLE at philosophy type classes in school -- when presented with a big idealistic question I was/am always quick to question the relevancy.
haha fair call... I love them types of questions. comes from my daydreaming type of personality I think. my mind wanders of into nooks and crannies of ideas.
 
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Cruisyazz

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Well, if you are seeking a romantic/dating relationship with a person still married - and separation is still married, I would HIGHLY caution you against that. I think it's well regarded in society, not just in a Christian community that this is adultery - and the least - exceptionally unwise.

Even immediately after a divorce, I would think this was an unwise move. My experience as an observer and someone who started to get involved with someone very recently divorced... give them at a minimum 6 months... a year would be better.

Rushing into any romantic relationship is unwise. Very often, FAR too often, heartbreak ensues.
cheers for you insight.
 
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MollyConnor

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If you are just getting out of a relationship, wouldn't it be better to focus on the Lord and let him bring the woman he has for you into your life? Don't focus on what women think or want or do. Focus on Jesus and his love and eventually you'll see that he will give you what you need weather it's a wife or not.

Peace and blessings!
 
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Shouryu

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What if the relationship was not a godly one from the beginning and the benefit of separating seems to be the best outcome for the kids?
Exodus 20:14 and 20
You shall not commit adultery.
Unless the marriage was not a Godly one, in which case you are given licence to pursue someone who is bound by marriage to another, and they are given licence to pursue others outside of their marriage.

Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet...your neighbor's wife...
Unless the marriage was not a Godly one, in which case you are given licence to covet she who is bound by marriage to another.

Is that what your translation of the Bible says? Is that the point of view you are trying to finesse? Because I have several translations on hand, and none of them have the extra qualifiers that you are trying to stitch on to them.

What do you know of God's plan for this woman? Is our God so weak and powerless that He cannot still yet redeem this marriage? Doesn't our God have the power to take a union that isn't holy and acceptable, and MAKE IT holy and acceptable through trial, humility, and forgiveness? I know MY God does.

It is made clear time and time again in God's Word that He HATES divorce. That doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. That doesn't mean that it isn't warranted in some cases. But if both members would turn their hearts to Christ and follow His commands for forgiveness and choose to love each other again, then they can be reconciled, and God is glorified. Do you know whether this is God's plan for this couple, or not? Has He spoken to you in prophecy concerning their future?

Or rather, in your heart, do you hope for the divorce? Will you be happy when it happens? Are you going to take pleasure in the fact that a marriage is ruined, two peoples heart are broken, and their childrens' lives thrown into disarray?

Are you praying for her family to be saved, or are you praying that you get what you want? Are you actually praying for what GOD wants? Are you hoping in the flesh, or hoping in the Spirit?
 
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Cruisyazz

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If you are just getting out of a relationship, wouldn't it be better to focus on the Lord and let him bring the woman he has for you into your life? Don't focus on what women think or want or do. Focus on Jesus and his love and eventually you'll see that he will give you what you need weather it's a wife or not.

Peace and blessings!
Ahh very true... More gold in that then it could get credit for I reckon! Cheers for your comment

Still is hard to ignore peoples opinions and thoughts on the matter. We are all influenced to some extend by them.