How Do You React When Christians Assume You're An Unbeliever?

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"Hel" Doctor, "hel" doctor...

Somethings it is easy to "know" why some (few) ppl dislike wearing open slippers...

 
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kenthomas27

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Several years ago I knew this man who was, for lack of a better description, a little effeminate. He was very thin, bald, wore real thick glasses and had an odd gait. I'd have to say he didn't walk so much as he pranced. I know that sounds awful, but it's the best verb I can think of. He seemed a soft man too, his pants a little too high up on his waist, papery thin almost transparent skin, and a high kind of chirpy voice with a delicate kind of wisp to his "s's". He was a man who looked like a strong wind would place him in another county and a man accustomed to moving around in a shower to remain wet. And he was also part of the 82nd Airborne dropped from a glider on June 6, 1944 and was instrumental in gathering his lost platoon to follow through with the mission of capturing Cherbourg during the allied invasion of Normandy.

I didn't even know this until the VFW had sponsored a trip back to Normandy in 2004 and he was a guest of honor. In other words, the man increased his stature not because he swaggered about singing his own praises, but because he pranced and lived the quiet life of a man committed to his family and country.

I think of his example much like I do of a (now) friend of mine. I was at a pretty lonely country store getting gas. After filling the truck I went in to pay and came back out when the truck said "tic tic tic tic tic" when I turned the key. I worked on the battery a bit, cleaned the terminals, checked water levels and tried again. "Tic tic tic tic" said the truck. It was a long way home and a long way for help. Some time later another truck rolled up to the only pump so I started to push my truck out of the way and the guy driving got out and helped me. He asked me if I needed a boost - had the jumper cables - lit me back up and in the meantime became a friend of mine. He's a marine reservist, a Christian, a family man and goes completely out of his way and schedule to help others whenever the occasion arrises which for him is not an occasion at all but a perpetuity.

I think what i'm saying is I have just given up judging books by their cover. The toughest looking men I've ever seen turn out to be cowards. The ministers who have the largest followings turn out to be swindlers. The ones who point their fingers and shake bibles and say this Catholic boy is headed for hell, well - they just turn out to be confused. I think we have to walk our walk. I've always felt it was important to know me by my fruit before you heard me talk. Therefore, I've never witnessed to a total stranger. I am a steward of Christianity. Everything I do is on tv.
 

ArtsieSteph

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Oooo good question. I usually mention it at some juncture so I'm not sure I have...I'd probably be a little offended but then be like, "Yeah no I'm a Christian"
 

seoulsearch

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It doesn't matter if they are a well-meaning (but misguided) Christian, a Hari Krishna trying to sell me some rice and beans, a pushy used car salesman trying to get me to drive off in a 'Very Low Miles' Buick, or a pushy church matchmaker trying to get me to drive off with her neighbor's cousin's 'Very Low Miles' daughter...the mindset is the same. "What I have is what you need, and I will beat you over the head with it until you submit."
Well for Pete's sake, Nuke, you could have just told me, "Sorry, Ma'am, not interested... (and besides, I already drive a forklift)"...

I guessing... I shouldn't put the description "very low miles" in my dating dating profile/advertisement...

Pardon me, sir, but I think my mileage is excellent.

Now my tires on the otherhand...

(Seriously. I've loved reading everyone's responses and hope y'all will continue! It also give me ideas on how to respond/defend myself/ward off the spiritual vampires in the future!)
 
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NukePooch

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Well for Pete's sake, Nuke, you could have just told me, "Sorry, Ma'am, not interested... (and besides, I already drive a forklift)"...

I guessing... I shouldn't put the description "very low miles" in my dating dating profile/advertisement...

Pardon me, sir, but I think my mileage is excellent.

Now my tires on the otherhand...

Well, I actually had first written 'Only One Owner' instead of 'Very Low Miles'....then when I re-read it, I figured it probably wasn't the best joke about the neighbor's cousin's daughter...

So...your tires are bald? Well, your weave looks good at any rate. As long as those pics above of hairy knuckles and nasty diseased nails aren't yours, you're still a winner in my book.
 
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Tintin

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Well, I actually had first written 'Only One Owner' instead of 'Very Low Miles'....then when I re-read it, I figured it probably wasn't the best joke about the neighbor's cousin's daughter...

So...your tires are bald? Well, your weave looks good at any rate. As long as those pics above of hairy knuckles and nasty diseased nails aren't yours, you're still a winner in my book.
Hi brother! Long time, no see! Er... type. Haha! Yeah, I'm not sure why Hermit felt the need to grace us with his hands and feet. Maybe it's a language barrier thing.
 

Jilly81

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I was pretty much going to say what PopClick said, Kim. If I mentioned Jesus to someone, and they said "oh yes; I've been in church my whole life!", I'd want to make sure they were a believer as well, since some cults don't believe that Jesus is the way to Heaven, but they keep their members in line, especially with church attendance (one could even go to a church with proper theology and not believe it themselves). HOWEVER, the next thing I'd say after their church attendance affirmation would probably be "oh, great! Have you ever accepted Jesus as your Savior?", or "that's neat! How old were you when you realized that Jesus died for your sins?", smiling the whole time. If they affirmed either question, I'd probably just say a sentence or two about how wonderful He is and let them agree, and then if I noticed that said person was tired, I hope I'd let him or her sleep :).
 
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Hellooo

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Hi brother! Long time, no see! Er... type. Haha! Yeah, I'm not sure why Hermit felt the need to grace us with his hands and feet. Maybe it's a language barrier thing.
The nail pics are killing me.
And I can't stop looking.
 
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NukePooch

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Yeah, I'm not sure why Hermit felt the need to grace us with his hands and feet.
The nail pics are killing me.
And I can't stop looking.

Well, blame SeoulSearch...I don't know why, just do it. Wait, maybe if she wasn't such a heathen unbeliever, then Hermit's nails wouldn't look like that.



(....aaaand we're back on topic, you're welcome.)
 
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NukePooch

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Hi brother! Long time, no see! Er... type. Haha!
Yep, it's been a minute. You know I'm always off gallivanting across the universe, and I only stop in to the forum when I'm in the neighborhood...usually only every couple of years or so.
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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* Do you find it hard to convince people that you're a Christian, or at least, "Christian Enough", to get them to stop trying to get you saved... again?
No. I don't bother.

* How do you respond to those who automatically assume you're a hell-bound heathen, and won't take, "Yes, I believe," for an answer?
Silence is another way of saying what I want to say. :)
 

ChandlerFan

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I was hoping I could just whip out my Believer Badge, but I'm still waiting for it to come. That postal service these days, I tell you :p
 

melita916

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come to think of it, i haven't had anyone approach me to evangelize to me. the closest thing was a lady who gave me one of those chick publication pamphlets. she just handed it to me, said, "here ya go," and walked away.
 

seoulsearch

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Well, blame SeoulSearch...I don't know why, just do it. Wait, maybe if she wasn't such a heathen unbeliever, then Hermit's nails wouldn't look like that.
And cue choking in 3, 2, 1...

Nuke, when I get my heathen hands around your neck... (Never mind the hair. And, don't look at my nails if you want to keep your sight intact.)

Why do I suddenly get the feeling that someone (no names, NukePooch... cough, cough) is trying to incite the masses into a huge riot against me!

What if I'm a PEACE-loving pagan, hmm?
 

gypsygirl

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honestly, i find it amazing that folks have ideas of where christians exist or not. the comments about "it's okay, las vegas isn't that bad!" make me smile a bit too. i get it. : )

having lived in vegast i can personally attest to the fact that it is one of the more churched areas in our country. to those who say there is "more trouble to get into" there, i would heartily disagree. we carry the ability to get into more trouble with us.

see, the world isn't what we need to be protected from. we're all walking around, with a sin nature that is constantly at war--what we need to be protected from resides in US. that's why we're called to die to self -- becoming more Christ-like. i made the joke in my post about meeting a christian at a liquor store because that's what happened last year. i make my own vanilla extract, and with a whole pound of juicy ripe vanilla beans ready, i ventured in to the liquor store and it probably looked like i was throwing some wild party. : D but really, no, it was all for different flavors of vanilla extract, no different than the alcohol-rich stuff you buy from the store.

i remember thinking, "hmmm... oh what if i ran into someone i knew while i was buying several bottles of hooch". and i ended up having a rather pleasant convo with a woman who goes to a nice church downtown. : )

i think our biggest issue is failing to recognize that we're not in need of being protected from the places like vegas. we need to be protected from ourselves.
 
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Hey Everyone,

Violakat's excellent thread about how we treat new Christians reminded me of times when other Christians assume I'm an unbeliever myself, and don't seem to believe me when I say I'm a Christian, no matter how much I try to explain my background. (I didn't want to derail Vi's thread so I'm posting this one as a spin-off.)

Here are some examples:

* As you know, over the years, I've attended many different churches because of moving. Sometimes no one notices at all. Other times, I'll find myself surrounded by 10 people who all want to take my hand and Drag Me Acrosss the Salvation Finish Line because they assume I'm an unbeliever, which I understand (I'm sure they're acting in the interest of "Just in case she isn't really saved... We'll take all the precautions to make sure she is.") Maybe it's just me, but many times I have a hard time convincing people I'm actually a lifelong Christian. Do you ever experience this too?

* Many years ago I was in Las Vegas (no, I'm not into gambling, partying, or a wild time. I was there with family to see a Cirque de Soleil show and check out the lobbies of some of the hotels) and as my Mom and I passed walked over a bridge, a young college-age man called out to our group, "Doesn't it bother you that you're all going to hell?" I'm sure he had the best intentions. He was witnessing for his Savior. But, I had to fight the part of me that really wanted to stop and ask him, "How do you know I'm going to hell? Where in the Bible does it say that you, not God, gets to judge my salvation?"

What would you have done? Would you have said something? Or would you have opted to just walk by without a word?

* While attending a school conference in New Orleans, I watches as a local church set up a huge cross in the middle of the French Quarter. The cross held a digital message board that told everyone that they were going to hell and needed to repent immediately.

Would you have stopped and said anything to them?

* On the shuttle ride to the airport on my recent vacation, I was the only passenger (who really, really wanted to sleep because of some long shifts at work), but the shuttle driver was bound and determined to get me saved along the way. He was a little older than me and started talking about the importance of knowing Jesus (he didn't ask if I wanted to know Jesus or if I already knew Jesus, he just told me I needed to have a relationship with Jesus.) As much as I tried to tell him I've grown up in church all my life and yes, I'm a Christian, he wouldn't take any of that as a valid answer and kept right on with the Rolling Sales Pitch for Instant Evangelism the entire way there. I was both awed with admiration... and majorly annoyed.

Now, God bless his heart. He was a really nice person and obviously on fire for God, so out of politeness, I stayed awake the whole time and dutifully listened to his well-prepared sermon for over an hour. It didn't matter that I was purposely verbally finishing all the Bible passages he was quoting before he could, or that I could finish his sentences midway, or that told him about my upbringing in Christian schools. He completely ignored all of that.

Either I wasn't Christian Enough To Be Able to Prove It or else He Just Wasn't Taking Any Chances That He'd Let Me Get Away Without the Chance to Be Saved... which I honestly do understand. But I couldn't help being frustrated. And, even more troubling to me is that at the end of the day, he probably went home and said, "I tried my best to serve you today, Lord, and bring another one into the fold," and I'm sure God was in complete acceptance of this. And then I wondered if God was looking at ME with annoyance and saying, "You should have been more attentive... You should have made an effort to be more polite... You should have put more into talking with this man instead of thinking about yourself" (and my dire need to sleep.)

Sometimes I almost wish there was some kind of membership card with a special stamp that states, "Yes, I Am a Christian, and Yes, I Am Going To Spend Eternity With Jesus." I wish that resolving situations like this really was as easy as whipping out my "Certified, Stamped and Verified Kingdom Membership Card" so that sometimes, I could just have some peace and quiet to myself. But I always try to politely pay attention to such spiels because I don't want to discourage that person's willingness to publicly witness to a stranger.

I know the Bible says you'll know a Christian by their fruit, but in chance, everyday encounters like this, the evidence of our fruit isn't always possible.

* Do you find it hard to convince people that you're a Christian, or at least, "Christian Enough", to get them to stop trying to get you saved... again?

* What do you say to people that finally "convinces" them?

* How do you respond to those who automatically assume you're a hell-bound heathen, and won't take, "Yes, I believe," for an answer?
I extend grace. Christ has told us to not judge by appearances .
Depending on the circumstance; I can discern the spirit from which the judgement comes
 

gypsygirl

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I was hoping I could just whip out my Believer Badge, but I'm still waiting for it to come. That postal service these days, I tell you :p


hasn't anyone taught you the secret handshake? they discontinued the badges, because someone hacked the system. ; p
 
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NukePooch

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hasn't anyone taught you the secret handshake? they discontinued the badges, because someone hacked the system. ; p
Doesn't the Christian secret handshake involve drawing pictures on a dead fish? Oh, well, just as long as it doesn't involve anything that looks like this...

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