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jaybird88

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our cat had kittens so we been giving them away. yesterday i gave one to a man and his daughter, his girl looked about 7. after they picked up cat he msg me all evening, cat wont eat, go in litterbox etc etc. i told him its no big seal, just give the cat time to adjust. he seemed a bit weird to begin with but had the cutest kid so i didnt worry to much. he then called this morning wanting to bring the cat back. he came to door with his girl carrying the kitten, she was crying not wanting to give up her kitten. now i cant stop thinking about the girl crying.
what is wrong with people? how could you do that to your kid? why do some kids have to have complete garbage douchbag parents.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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poor kid

but look on the bright side, at least he gave it back to you rather than neglecting it, doesn't sound like he'd take care of it if he kept it
 
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jaybird88

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im happy they didnt dump it somewhere.
 
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Ugly

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So he had the cat one night, felt he was seeing problems with it. Problems that may potentially (in his mind) lead to expensive vet bills for an animal he hasn't even had a week and now he's comets garbage and a douche bag?
Have you considered if he may have been aware it was only one night and therefore not enough time for his kid to form anything deep with the cat?
Or that he may be planning on getting another animal soon to replace this one, for his daughter?
Perhaps he felt he was protecting his daughter from worse by getting rid of the animal quickly, before she formed a Real attachment, rather than waiting longer to find out of the cat had problems then having to return it? Or make his daughter watch the cat go through medical procedures?
Fact is you are a complete stranger to him so he has no idea what knowledge, if any, you have of cats. So what may have sounded like a generic response to get rid of him may have sent up red flags. And as a result he decided not to risk putting his daughter through worse pain on the word of a stranger.
Really there is no evidence, in what you shared, that he's complete garbage or a douche bag. Even your opinion of him being 'weird' doesn't prove anything. He may have felt he was being wise or protective of his daughter. You don't really know his motives. You really only judged him by he you perceived his 'weirdness factor' and that you disliked his actions on the surface, but from what you shared you have no foundation for the name calling or questioning his character.
 
RickyZ

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Yeah, vet bills were my first thought. They can get pricey fast. Ya don't want to buy in on a money pit. And better returned than neglected or dumped. Did you offer them another kitten (assuming you had one)? And how's the little critter doing? Is it eating and pooping for you?
 
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Perhaps the man is a Christian and foresaw the problem with how many more cat pics would be brought into the No Cat Pics thread and thought it wise to get a dog instead.
 
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jaybird88

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Ugly said:
So he had the cat one night, felt he was seeing problems with it. Problems that may potentially (in his mind) lead to expensive vet bills for an animal he hasn't even had a week and now he's comets garbage and a douche bag?
Have you considered if he may have been aware it was only one night and therefore not enough time for his kid to form anything deep with the cat?
Or that he may be planning on getting another animal soon to replace this one, for his daughter?
Perhaps he felt he was protecting his daughter from worse by getting rid of the animal quickly, before she formed a Real attachment, rather than waiting longer to find out of the cat had problems then having to return it? Or make his daughter watch the cat go through medical procedures?
Fact is you are a complete stranger to him so he has no idea what knowledge, if any, you have of cats. So what may have sounded like a generic response to get rid of him may have sent up red flags. And as a result he decided not to risk putting his daughter through worse pain on the word of a stranger.
Really there is no evidence, in what you shared, that he's complete garbage or a douche bag. Even your opinion of him being 'weird' doesn't prove anything. He may have felt he was being wise or protective of his daughter. You don't really know his motives. You really only judged him by he you perceived his 'weirdness factor' and that you disliked his actions on the surface, but from what you shared you have no foundation for the name calling or questioning his character.
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RickyZ said:
Yeah, vet bills were my first thought. They can get pricey fast. Ya don't want to buy in on a money pit. And better returned than neglected or dumped. Did you offer them another kitten (assuming you had one)? And how's the little critter doing? Is it eating and pooping for you?
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what are you people on about? vet bills? procedures? if you take an animal from one environment to another it has to adjust, thats what animals do. and thats all that was going on.
i think they guy was a piece of garbage cause while his little girl stood their bawling her eyes out he just stood there completely emotionless.
i have 2 kids and as a parent i actually plan and think before making a commitment to something before breaking a promise to an innocent child.
the evidence i have that something is wrong was a little girl crying her eyes out on my front porch. that bothers me.
 
RickyZ

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Is the kitten eating and pooping for you?
 
Searching4Truth

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I think it'd be best to let it go. What's done is done. Sure the little girl will have a vague memory of what happened, but I seriously doubt it'll cause her to be a mass murderer.

One night is not enough time for an animal to adjust to its surroundings. It does take time for them to drink and eat the food in a strange place. Especially kittens. I know from experience, that people who decide to adopt a cat ask questions.

"Why isn't it eating?" Or even "She's not drinking. What should I do?"

Quite often the answer is time. And in time the animal will develop it's own little annoying personality and quirks based on it's owers and surroundings.

People usually ask me why their cat would climb the curtains after a month or four after adoption. Or on the one case, another owner lost their cat, and asked us if we had another cat that licked ears.

I tell them: I don't know why the cat turned out like that. It never did that when had it.

And each case has very distinct differences for each animal.
 
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jaybird88

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RickyZ said:
Is the kitten eating and pooping for you?
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the kittens are eating and pooping fine, they always were.
here is a little animal knowledge 101. this is most common with cats but also with other animals. when you move a kitten from 1 home to another it is normal for it to freak out when it gets to new home. sometimes they will run and hide under a washer or cabinet all night and all day. they also might not eat, drink poop or maybe poop/pee on the floor its completely normal.
IMO the pooping/peeing on the floor is why they brought it back. they blew up my phone last night when it happened. they were pretty hateful about it, its a free kitten! they had also sprayed it down with perfume.
i still feel bad for the kid.
 
Lynx

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In my experience cats are much easier to take care of than dogs. Keep a new cat in one room for the first day or two, the room where you will be keeping his litter box. A cat can adapt to one room much better than to a whole house, and that room will be the base from which he builds his new world view when you let him out into the rest of the house. And the base will have the litter box, which is important.

Show a cat where the litter box and food/water are and a cat is at home. :cool:
 
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jaybird88

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Lynx said:
In my experience cats are much easier to take care of than dogs. Keep a new cat in one room for the first day or two, the room where you will be keeping his litter box. A cat can adapt to one room much better than to a whole house, and that room will be the base from which he builds his new world view when you let him out into the rest of the house. And the base will have the litter box, which is important.

Show a cat where the litter box and food/water are and a cat is at home. :cool:
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thats good thinking. i never thought about it but im gonna run this by people from now on.
 
proverbs35

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At least they returned the cat alive. I'm glad they didn't kill it or let it die from neglect. I think that would have been worse.

My niece has two rambunctious boys. When they were about 4-5 someone gave them a very young puppy. He was cute. He looked like a lab mix. They didn't know how to handle or care for a puppy. When they first got the pup, I went for a visit, and the pup looked very sad and scared. They were handling it very roughly. They weren't intending to be mean. They handle everything roughly. About a week later, the pup was dead. Let's just say, I wasn't surprised.

With that being said, I'm glad they returned the kitten alive.
 
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what are you people on about? vet bills? procedures? if you take an animal from one environment to another it has to adjust, thats what animals do. and thats all that was going on.
i think they guy was a piece of garbage cause while his little girl stood their bawling her eyes out he just stood there completely emotionless.
i have 2 kids and as a parent i actually plan and think before making a commitment to something before breaking a promise to an innocent child.
the evidence i have that something is wrong was a little girl crying her eyes out on my front porch. that bothers me.
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You're talking from YOUR understanding of things, not someone elses. At the end of the day you are still ASSUMING to know what kind of person he is based off one interaction that you interpreted as bad. You're still being judgmental because you have NOTHING at all to base what you're saying of this man off of. Get over yourself.
 
RickyZ

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Our nephew cries about being denied things he's never even had. If we gave him everything he whined about we'd be broke and he'd have no space in his room. The little girl crying over a kitten she had for less than 24 hours is irrelevant.

If the guy went off on you over the phone about it, sure you can draw a (shaky) conclusion that he has issues.

My question is why are you going off on us? Seems maybe YOUR stress level has something to do with this.
 
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Regarding the kitty, when I got my Angel, a dog, she just wanted to hang out by the carport door. I knew that she just need time to adjust and get over her mommy human. I left her alone with giving her no input, the next day she began exploring he house a little bit, it takes time.
 
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jaybird88

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Ugly said:
You're talking from YOUR understanding of things, not someone elses. At the end of the day you are still ASSUMING to know what kind of person he is based off one interaction that you interpreted as bad. You're still being judgmental because you have NOTHING at all to base what you're saying of this man off of. Get over yourself.
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i am basing this on what happened. they sent me hatefull messeges about the cat not using the litterbox "you told us it was litterbox trained!!". and a few other things but the pooping on the floor was what seemed to be the big deal.
they brought the cat back, the dad had his girl with him, she carried the kitten up the drive and handed it back to me crying. he said it was his wife that said no. thats all that was said "the wife said no" mot another word. he never held his girls hand, picked her up or anything. just turned around and went back to their car while his daughter cried. no emotion at all. the whole thing seemed weird to me .
i dont like breaking little kids hearts and making them give up their pets and cry. maybe im weird.

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Our nephew cries about being denied things he's never even had. If we gave him everything he whined about we'd be broke and he'd have no space in his room. The little girl crying over a kitten she had for less than 24 hours is irrelevant.

If the guy went off on you over the phone about it, sure you can draw a (shaky) conclusion that he has issues.

My question is why are you going off on us? Seems maybe YOUR stress level has something to do with this.
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so telling a kid they can have a pet kitten then breaking that promise to the child is completely irrelevant? umm ok, not sure thats the example i want to set for my children.

im not going off on you, read the thread title, its called venting. people do that when they are upset.
 
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