So Let's Talk About Politics For a Minute...

[seoulsearch]

A careful reading of 1 Samuel 8 does not reveal a preference of leader at all, but rather - that God is displeased with the whole idea. That is why He says to Samuel that it isn't Samuel they are rejecting - but God himself, as they insisted on having a King like other nations. So then, reading on in that chapter, God outlines the consequences that will have and what the leader will do.

Not all that different from today's condition, if you ask me.

Yes, I'm familiar with the fact that God was not at all pleased that the people asked for a king as the surrounding nations did. God alone wanted to be their leader. And when Saul fell from obedience, God had it in His heart to replace him with David.

It would be interesting to see what God would have in mind for leadership in today's context. Chances are, it wouldn't be the democracy the United States clings to so fiercely. I don't mean that as a criticism at all. I'm just saying, if our government were truly what God wanted it to be, I doubt we'd get to vote or have a "choice".

 

[Tommy379]

Any woman of mine, better Make America Great Again.

 

[garet82]

I like politics but i dont like the ppl who get involve in it.
i prefer to be spectator and observer from far away.

 

[garet82]

Any woman of mine, better Make America Great Again.

i will say amen. That's very well said brother

 

[I_am_Canadian]

I prefer to get involved, It's the only way things are going to get done.
I am a card carrying member of the Christian Heritage Party of Canada.

I like politics but i dont like the ppl who get involve in it.
i prefer to be spectator and observer from far away.

 

[Desdichado]

Tommy is my favorite necroposter on earth.

 

[I_am_Canadian]

Hey Everyone,

Charlie Brown once said that there are 3 things you should never discuss with people: religion, politics, and The Great Pumpkin.

Somehow... I think the subject of religion is already covered *wink*, and I'll leave it to someone else to start a thread about The Great Pumpkin . But with all the focus in the news about potential US presidential candidates, I'd like to ask your opinions regarding politics and our Christian faith.

"Old-timers" here on CC might remember that I wrote a thread similar to this a long time ago, but with a new CC crowd here and a new election in the works, I'm interested in what you all currently have to say.

Several years ago I read a dating profile in which a gentleman stated that he voted for X, and that he believed "God led him to vote for this candidate."

The interesting thing was, I had voted for the opposing candidate--because I too believed God was leading ME to vote for THAT particular person. My family is believes very strongly in the husband leading, but not lording over, his family. The women in my family look to the men as spiritual leaders but are also encouraged (and expected) to voice their own opinions and it is sometimes agreed upon by both spouses that she will not always make the same choice as their husband regarding things such as voting.

As a single woman, I look to my father for guidance in sorting out the political windstorm of trying to choose a candidate to support (if I were married, I would obviously look to my husband for such leadership.)

Here are some questions I have when it comes to God and politics (feel free to answer any or all of them):

1. Do you believe that God wants a certain candidate to win? If so, would He then lead ALL of His people to vote for that candidate, or no? Why or why not?

2. Would God lead some of His people to vote for Candidate X and some to vote for Candidate Y? Why? Would this not be seen as creating division?

3. Would God lead a husband and wife to vote for different people?

4. I stated in my opening example that the gentleman voted for Candidate X and I voted for Candidate Y. We BOTH believed that God was leading us to make the choices we did. Does this mean that either one, both, or neither of us really heard from God?

5. If you have no peace in your heart about any of the candidates or don't feel knowledgeable enough, is it better just to not vote at all?

I would really appreciate any feedback you have on these topics. I find this subject interesting and more relevant than ever because we all know our country is in need of a candidate who will fulfill God's will.

I'm looking forward to hearing your answers!

Ok, let me see if I can clear some of this up for you.
1. Yes. God does want a specific individual to win. Because they have the character and integrity to do whats right.
But God does not interfere with our free will. Which means the decision on who to vote for is left up to the individual.
If God's children were in one accord, as the scripture says we should be, than yes they would all vote for the same individual.

Unfortunately, I believe most Christians vote the same way the world does, by picking a charismatic public speaker, and salesman. Basically their decision is based on who promises to do the most good. I believe if Christians voted on conviction their would be real change. That is why I jumped off ship with the Liberals, Conservatives and NDP.

If they were my only choices, I would go Conservative every time. How ever, Canada does have more than 3 political parties and I am a supporter and member of the Christian Heritage Party, Because I do believe in Biblical Voting, and supporting a party that is Christian based, and will preserve the Christian foundation of our country.

2. Well God will advise us on who to vote for based on his word, how ever he does not control our choice, and again you know Satan is out to rule the world so you know you have to wonder about ballot box stuffing and computer tampering... etc..
Again our descisions are up to us, Bible says a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. The husband and wife should be in agreement on political issues when they get married, That is one thing to consider when your looking for a spouse.
The more you have in common and agree on the less there is to fight over.

3. No he would not lead them to vote on different people, It means the house is not in one accord, it's probably satan trying to destroy them, by dividing them.

4. Well, it depends, how did you verify that it was God talking to you? how did God reveal who you should vote for?
I think the fact you both believe God wanted you to vote for someone different shows you both have different convictions when it comes to political issues.

5. No, I think at this point you maybe looking more for a feeling on who to vote for, than for Gods leading on who to vote for,
You have to find the candidate who is leading by Gods word, and willing to do what is right. That is the candidate you should vote for.

Hope this helped.

 

[I_am_Canadian]

Hey Everyone,

Charlie Brown once said that there are 3 things you should never discuss with people: religion, politics, and The Great Pumpkin.

Somehow... I think the subject of religion is already covered *wink*, and I'll leave it to someone else to start a thread about The Great Pumpkin . But with all the focus in the news about potential US presidential candidates, I'd like to ask your opinions regarding politics and our Christian faith.

"Old-timers" here on CC might remember that I wrote a thread similar to this a long time ago, but with a new CC crowd here and a new election in the works, I'm interested in what you all currently have to say.

Several years ago I read a dating profile in which a gentleman stated that he voted for X, and that he believed "God led him to vote for this candidate."

The interesting thing was, I had voted for the opposing candidate--because I too believed God was leading ME to vote for THAT particular person. My family is believes very strongly in the husband leading, but not lording over, his family. The women in my family look to the men as spiritual leaders but are also encouraged (and expected) to voice their own opinions and it is sometimes agreed upon by both spouses that she will not always make the same choice as their husband regarding things such as voting.

As a single woman, I look to my father for guidance in sorting out the political windstorm of trying to choose a candidate to support (if I were married, I would obviously look to my husband for such leadership.)

Here are some questions I have when it comes to God and politics (feel free to answer any or all of them):

1. Do you believe that God wants a certain candidate to win? If so, would He then lead ALL of His people to vote for that candidate, or no? Why or why not?

2. Would God lead some of His people to vote for Candidate X and some to vote for Candidate Y? Why? Would this not be seen as creating division?

3. Would God lead a husband and wife to vote for different people?

4. I stated in my opening example that the gentleman voted for Candidate X and I voted for Candidate Y. We BOTH believed that God was leading us to make the choices we did. Does this mean that either one, both, or neither of us really heard from God?

5. If you have no peace in your heart about any of the candidates or don't feel knowledgeable enough, is it better just to not vote at all?

I would really appreciate any feedback you have on these topics. I find this subject interesting and more relevant than ever because we all know our country is in need of a candi

date who will fulfill God's will.

I'm looking forward to hearing your answers!

Here is a link to a Christian Political Party

https://www.chp.ca