All Da Single Ladies (Who Aren't After a Man's Money), Holla Back!!

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seoulsearch

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Hey Everyone,

There always seem to be two predominant stereotypes about men and women that even Christians throw around frequently:

1. All men care about is beauty/sex.
2. All women care about is money.

As a woman, I certainly appreciate the gentlemen here who are living proof that the first stereotype isn't true. I know this is going to sound biased, but I've often tried to express gratitude for this and believe I've seen some of the other ladies express admiration for the Godly men here as well.

On the flip side, I constantly see references to men believing that all women have shopping addictions, and despite the times I've seen here in which women talk about their own financial responsibility, I don't recall any of the men here expressing that they're glad to know not all women are out for money.

I'm certainly NOT looking for a pat on the back for any of us. But what I'd like to know is, does the CC community of women really seem like "all the others"? Do most of the women here seem to feed into that cash-grabbing stereotype, and is that why it's so frequently mentioned? I am not saying this in a condemning tone at all--I'm genuinely curious to make an attempt to better understand what men go through.

I would also like to ask: have the women you've encountered who used you for money been Christians? I'm just curious because I'm puzzled as to where so many men who have spoken about being used for money are meeting these women. Am I unaware of the fact that most women in the church are greedy gold diggers? Maybe there's something I don't know, because I obviously don't date women.

All my female friends are very independent, often single mothers, and have always worked, with some exceptions being those who were stay-at-home moms but then went back to work when their kids were older. Many have careers such as accounting, teaching, and hospital administration. Some never went to college, but they've always worked.

I was honestly trying to think of women I've known who were obvious cash-mongrels, and I could only think of one or two. One had gone out on a date and complained that if the guy "had been a real man, he would have given me money to fill my gas tank and to spend on my kids." I remember thinking, "WHOA!!! Leave that poor cash cow back at the barn, sister!!!" That is NO way to treat a guy, but that's just my own opinion. But this girl was never without out a suitor, and often had several at once.

She was also exceptionally beautiful. Is that why so many men asked her out, and apparently put up with her antics? (But my hard-working friends are exceptionally beautiful, too.)

One day when I was at work and about 32 years old, a man, probably about 70, told me that "My day would go a lot better if you followed me home like a little puppy..." and, "I could buy you clothes, cars, jewelry..." I told him, "Sir, as you can see, I have a JOB. Anything I need or want, I can buy myself." Sorry, but I'm not for sale. I don't mean that in arrogance, but rather, the fact that I have parents who taught me responsibility instead of reliance. Now, if I got into a relationship, we would have to work that out as a couple. But because I've read posts from so many guys who've been hurt here on CC, I always try my best to insist on keeping things even.

In fact, sometimes if a date goes well and I really like the guy, I'll offer to pay for HIS meal, as well as my own. The LAST thing I want a man to be able to say about me is, "She's just like all the others... She used me for a free meal!"

I would love to hear from the ladies out there (single or married) who AREN'T after a man's money--maybe we can encourage our gentlemen here and let them know that there are women out there who will be interested in who THEY are, not what's in their wallet.

And gentlemen (single or married), could you please go into further detail as to how you met women who used you (are the women I see faithfully ministering to people on Sunday going on to to use men for money by Friday?) What attracted you to them, and have you never met women who aren't like this?
 
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coby

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Money is a turn off to be honest, unless he really can't help it that he earns so much and lives simple and gives most away.
 
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HonestlyHumbled

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Interesting read.

I personally do not like a man to take care of me. I have never had a man do it. I have no desire for it. How do you buy your partner birthday gifts? "Honey.. Can I please have x amount?"
What do you do with all your spare time?

It may look like I'm going off topic. But here is my experience of love in a nutshell :

Previously what I looked for in a prospective partner was their heart and their ability to make me laugh. I also liked to feel protected and safe. I had previously never been.. lets use the term picky.. with regards to their religious choices. I was very much into freedom of actions and thoughts. Which was my mistake. I ended up dating a lot of atheists which was not really the ideal situation for someone trying to grow strong in my walk.
So do you know what I did?
i handed everything over to God and raised a bar that I will never drop. A Godly man. I'm not perfect, no one is perfect. But I'm sure we all know by what I mean Godly. And I told God if I'm going to be alone for the rest of my life that's fine. I'm no longer settling and giving up my beliefs nor my principles (which ends up happening when you're with the wrong person)
And guess what?
I've never been more happy in my life :) All I want is God in my life. God is enough for me.
I can't predict the future - I am not God - But money cannot buy my love nor my principles from me.
 
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Mcsmitty

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Finances aren't an issue to me, they are not one of my reasons in choosing a gentleman. Now don't mistake me when I say I expect them to be hard working, just like me, but how many zero's there are trailing the figures isn't what I look for. In actuality I've found that a, let's see how do I put this, man of average means is much more humble, kind and caring and I find that a man making much more beyond his means, is much more concerned about what he has and how much more he can get, and the way important qualities that make up a good man are diluted by dollar signs.

So if a man thinks that they can spark my interest by waving their "stuff" (easy people) around in front of me he's actually driving me away. I do that same as you and I offer to switch off and pay for dinner, I see no reason for the man to pay everything, all the time. It's a relationship, right?

So then I ask myself, is this why I'm still single? Are the women that have several "suitors" are they awakening something in a man that is in his nature to take care of a woman? I don't know, I just don't know.
 
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Ugly

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I've had a number of women in chat seem very eager to talk, till they found out i didn't make much money. My last gf, that i met on CC, listed one of the reasons for not staying with me as not being an ambitious and hard working enough man, and therefore will never make enough money.
 

violakat

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Let me think, a poor mechanic (or other manual labor career) or a millionaire CEO. I choose the mechanic over the CEO any day of the week. Money comes and goes, but a guy who can keep the car running. WHEE. (And it's not because my truck is always having problems. Okay, maybe it is.) But seriously, there are certain type of jobs that will always be in need, such as carpentry, mechanical (not just automotive), etc. However, companies can quickly fall and well, what happens to the CEO. He ends up without a job, and who knows how lone he'd have to search for one. But, if that CEO has some type of skill that makes him more marketable, that even in the hard times, the two of you will survive. And yes, it will be rough, but you have a better chance of surviving. Guess it's more of a security thing then a money thing.

(Just note, I also think women should have skills that could be of use during bad times. In fact, it wouldn't hurt if both men women learned to do a lot of the same things, as it makes them more flexible.)
 
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coby

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I want someone who works 32 hours a week or less, but I'm Dutch and only care about free time.
 

Oncefallen

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I want someone who works 32 hours a week or less, but I'm Dutch and only care about free time.
Economics must be very different there, here in the US most people would never be able to support themselves (much less a spouse) on only 32 hours a week.
 
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skylove7

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A man who can dance
With a nickel in his pants
Is better than a.....


Lol
Ok
So thats NOT a hit song!

But yes Kim lol
Thanks for the thread!

In agreement!
 
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coby

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Economics must be very different there, here in the US most people would never be able to support themselves (much less a spouse) on only 32 hours a week.
Most women also have a part time job, 2 or 3 days and I think it's much cheaper, cheap rent houses and such.
 
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JeniBean

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Holla!! I see these stero types daily with friends and clients. Frankly I have never nor will ever need a man for money. I take care of me and mine perfectly fine with out any man's money. If they have a career and aren't bankrupt I am highly impressed.
 

Lynx

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As one who never dabbled in dating I have no personal experience in this matter. But as one who is an observer of those around him, I'd have to say it depends on the person. Different people have different priorities and a stereotype rarely fits anybody perfectly.

All your recent threads, seoulsearch, remind me of my best friend. He is a very quiet, reserved guy. Improbably he married a lady who wears her heart on her shirtsleeve. To see them together you would think they are the most mismatched pair ever put together. But he is very intelligent... and she's a librarian.

Last Christmas I happened to be sitting next to them at church. One of the ministers was reading about Joseph's espoused wife and called Mary "his exposed wife." Most of the congregation didn't catch it, but I saw them glance at each other and chuckle. I thought to myself what a wonderful thing it would be to have a spouse who found amusing the same things I thought were amusing. And I thought what a marvelously well-matched pair my friend and his wife are.



This thread in particular... well, it reminds me of something quite different.

There once was a woman from Kent
Who said that she KNEW what it meant
When men asked her to dine
She had coctails and wine
She knew what it meant
But she went
 

cinder

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I think some of the stereotype comes more from changing cultural values and standards. We had a thread not too long ago about generation gaps and expectations and a sense of entitlement and how those things might be making us less satisfied with out lives than our parents' generation(s). I think this is part of it. So there are some entitled guys out there who think that they deserve a girlfriend just because it's something everyone should have, regardless of their circumstances in life, stability, or really any very real and practical considerations that should be part of the equation. So non-financially stable men will say that all women are interested in is their money / income when the women in question may have very good grounds to be concerned.

But the flip side of the coin is that I think many of us want to continue to live in the manner which we're accustomed to. So while former generations were expected to and content to start out in less favorable financial conditions. We get the social pressure of establishing our own life and finances before looking for a partner or starting a family. Or maybe you shouldn't even start a family if you don't have enough money to buy them every little thing the TV says you need to get them to give them the best possible start in life. So female expectations of the finances of their potential partner are probably higher than they used to be.

For me the deciding factor (for serious consideration of marriage not necessarily for someone getting a first date) isn't the dollar amount made, but how a man handles his money and what his spending priorities are. (and this cuts both ways, a woman who whines if you don't constantly spend a lot of money on her is not a good woman to marry) Good money management will trump a high income any day of the week for me. So yeah attitude towards money does matter a great deal, but actual dollar amounts, not so much (though I'd probably have trouble being with someone super rich just because spending huge amounts of money constantly would be super uncomfortable for me).
 

JonahLynx

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I ain't got no money
I ain't got no car to take you on a date
I can't even buy you flowers
But together we can be the perfect soulmates ;)

Bwh-bwh-bwh, d-d-da, d-d-da, d-d-da, d-d-da, d-d-da, d-d-da, d-d-da
 
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RJD

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I am on disability and don't have a large income, am a woman, and don't rely on a man, rather the govt. I try to budget my money wisely and do okay. When I went out with a man a few months ago I told him I would pay for my own meal and I did. However I can't go out frequently and do that but I would cook for a man at home.
 

proverbs35

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For me the deciding factor (for serious consideration of marriage not necessarily for someone getting a first date) isn't the dollar amount made, but how a man handles his money and what his spending priorities are. (and this cuts both ways, a woman who whines if you don't constantly spend a lot of money on her is not a good woman to marry) Good money management will trump a high income any day of the week for me. So yeah attitude towards money does matter a great deal, but actual dollar amounts, not so much (though I'd probably have trouble being with someone super rich just because spending huge amounts of money constantly would be super uncomfortable for me).
You made an excellent point. HOW MUCH a person makes isn't nearly as important as HOW THEY MANAGE (STEWARD) what they make.

So yeah attitude towards money does matter a great deal
That's very true. Research shows that money problems are one of the leading causes of divorce in our nation. Arguing about money is the top predictor of divorce, according to Sonya Britt, a Kansas State University researcher. According to her research, couples who argued about money early in their relationships -- regardless of their income, debt or net worth -- were at a greater risk for divorce. "Arguments about money [are] by far the top predictor of divorce," she said. "It's not children, sex, in-laws or anything else. It's money -- for both men and women." The research also concluded that arguments about money were longer and usually more intense than other types of marital disagreements.

Source: Divorce Study: Financial Arguments Early In Relationship May Predict Divorce

According to a survey conducted by SunTrust Bank of people in a relationship or partnership, couples don't just argue about money: they hide transactions from each other. One in 5 Americans in a relationship say they have spent $500 or more and not told their partner, and 6 percent maintain secret accounts or credit cards, according to a poll conducted for CreditCards.com. SunTrust found that 36 percent of partners in a relationship do not consult their significant other about even large purchases.


The SunTrust study is being published on the heels of a similar survey by Ally Bank. In that survey, which was not limited to people married or in relationships, 55 percent of respondents said that a strong budgeting and saving strategy was the most appealing money-related quality a partner or potential partner could have. In addition, three-fourths of the respondents to this survey said it was moderately or highly important to find a partner with a similar approach to money and budgeting.

Source: Money is the leading cause of stress in relationships
 
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sassylady

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I make a very small income but could never marry somebody because he had money. I dated a man who was a business owner and as nice as it is to go out to eat and do all kinds of activities on the weekends that cost money, I could never see him being happy if he lost everything he had. I could never imagine him just staying home on a Fri or Sat evening and grilling hamburgers and watching tv after working hard all week. I don't impress that easily, there are plenty of personality/Christlike traits I'd take any day over money.
 
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Ahhh phooey. Ya'll women are full of it. One thing I noticed about the majority of women especially on here is they are major people pleasers. If a man having money makes him more attractive that is nothing to be ashamed of. Theirs nothing wrong with the fact that a man's ability to provide makes him somewhat more attractive. God made women biologically attracted to men that can help them survive. Meaning they are attracted to men that can protect and provide for them. I'm not ashamed of the fact that I am attracted to a woman's physical attributes. Now I'm not shallow. I'm just keeping it real. A woman's bank account doesn't get me aroused, her sweet personality doesn't do anything for me. It looks. Sorry, I won't apologize for the way God made me. Now, will I choose a wife because of her looks? No. I'm not shallow. The attraction must be there but more important is the woman's character and her morals, etc. But character and morals don't make me say oooooooooh baby. Your integrity is so sexy. lol. it's a womans looks that do that. Now am I saying you should go out and marry a man for his money? No. Am I saying that a man that doesn't have much money is unattractive? No. I'm not saying that. All I'm saying is that a man's ability to provide can make him more attractive to a certain extent, not to mention that he will have more to offer in a marriage for the children, etc. I hope I don't upset any of the women here for calling them out on their bull, but I have a bad habit of keeping it real. lol.
 

Lynx

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Reading phil's post...

Reading phil's signature...

Connection?