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drulenarendes

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All right. So I have a pretty big problem that I am really struggling to deal with, and I am looking for any help and support I can get, because I am just so lost and confused right now and I don't know what to do.

It all started 9 years ago, when I got involved with a girl I met online. We fell hard for each other, and it was a very magical time. I felt such a deep and close bond with her and I thought for sure she was the one I would spend the rest of my life with. But for whatever reason it didn't work out, and she broke up with me. I was devastated. I have never had my heart broken like that in my life. She wanted us to be friends still, so I gave it a try. It didn't work out very well. It was really hard for me to be friends with her when I still loved her so much, but she no longer returned my feelings. As a result, we spent the next 5 months mostly fighting. It was extremely ugly. We still had a few good moments in there, but not enough. We had a lot of bad arguments and a lot of heated words were exchanged. I finally reached the point where I couldn't do it anymore. I wanted to be her friend, I wanted to be a part of her life, but my unrequited feelings were causing more harm than good. So I severed all ties with her and I walked away. It was the hardest thing I ever had to do.

It took me years to get over her, and my profound and deep feelings for her. I have never before or since, had a woman in my life who was so much like me, and completed me in every way. I struggled for a long, long time to put her behind me and move on with my life.

Fast forward 8 years to September 2015. A series of circumstances in my life caused me to think about her for the first time in years, and with those thoughts I came to the startling realization that I no longer loved her in that way, and we could be friends again. So after 8 years of no communication between us, I emailed her. And she replied back, overjoyed to hear from me again. And so a beautiful friendship was reborn from the ashes. We became very close again in a short period of time, and before long I considered her my absolute best friend in the world. The whole thing has been a true miracle of God. He was working on me for years, setting events into motion that would culminate in me reuniting with this amazing woman. There was just one problem. After spending a great deal of time with her over the past few months, I realized one day that I had fallen in love all over again with her. And once again the feelings are unrequited because she is deeply involved with another man. And it is very, very serious.

So there's my big dilemma. And I have no idea what to do. I haven't told her about any of this because I don't want to cause a rift between us, and I definitely don't want to drive a wedge between her and her boyfriend. I've been struggling to find some peace with all this, but there are days where it's really, really hard. I've spent a lot of time praying to God about this, and for Him to reveal His plan for me. Because I feel like I have to have these feelings again for a reason. God knows all things, so He would have to know that by bringing us back together I would just fall for her all over again. Most days I feel okay about this, that I am right where God wants me. He has definitely given me signs that I am on the right path, but I still struggle to understand why these feelings have returned. It seems so senseless to me to fall in love with a woman who is so deeply committed to another. And now I have all this love that I don't know what to do with. And why do I feel so deeply in my soul that she is the one, when it's all too evident that she's not? I'm just so confused.

I know God sees a much, much bigger picture than me. He knows all, and sees all. So just because I see something as hopeless, it doesn't mean He does. He has a plan, a purpose for all this and I'm sure it will be something I will never expect. So I am trusting in Him that He will reveal His plan in His time. It's all I can really do. But in the meantime, I'm left to struggle with these feelings for a woman who loves another. So what should I do? What can I do? Any advice, help, or encouragement is greatly appreciated.
 

Tinkerbell725

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There is nothing worse than unrequited love. But refusing to move on is just delaying finding true love. True love is mutual not one sided. My advice is improve yourself, enroll in something worthwhile, who knows you will meet the girl of your dreams there. Dont hold on too long on a pipe dream. Life is short to waste time on someone who can not love you back. Its easier said than done but once you got over it you will just laugh about it.
 
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skylove7

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Amen!
Awesome advise Tinkerbell!
I will pray for you Drulenanderes
But honestly...I couldn't advise you any better than Tinkerbell.
I will pray
For we all know hurt sometimes
You are not alone....God bless you!

Dear Lord
I lift this gentleman in prayer tonight.
His heart was broken once 9 years ago...and now in the same relationship it is breaking again.
God I know you do not wish for your children broken hearted.
Instead
Please in Your love and grace....give this man the strength to move on. Though it may hurt him to let go....it only will hurt more....when he tries, and cries...and tries again, no
change
Please dear Lord
Help this man's broken heart
May you find love again
With whoever is your meant to be
In Christ
Amen
 
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As much as you love her, and she loves you, you must move forward in a way that will be constructive to your own future. It will hurt her to lose your friendship, but she will understand. Trust me. She will want what is best for you.
 

Roh_Chris

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First of all, welcome to CC. I hope that this site turns out to be a blessing for you. :)

I am not sure whether you would appreciate what I have typed below, in response to your question. Do give it a read, but please do not be offended by it.

Unrequited love is painful. Worse is, to love someone who is already in a serious relationship. I would advise you to get out of that. Given that the two of you are very close, you should gradually cut down on the time that you spend with each other. Spend that time on yourself - hobby, fitness, part-time studies, work, family, friends, etc.

Here are a couple of questions for you to ponder over -

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The whole thing has been a true miracle of God. He was working on me for years, setting events into motion that would culminate in me reuniting with this amazing woman.
I would be careful about considering this as a miracle of God. Yes, it is a surprise that she wrote back to you. But, she is already in a relationship. Is it possible that you have ignored the warning signs from God? Could you also elaborate on the signs that God has given you to show you that you are on the right path? I am just questioning whether God intends for you to pursue her even when she is in a relationship with another man.

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And so a beautiful friendship was reborn from the ashes. We became very close again in a short period of time, and before long I considered her my absolute best friend in the world.
I do not know whether this is right, but this is what I would do if I was in your situation. I would ask her whether her significant other (SO) is aware of our friendship and our history. If he is aware of it, then I would continue the friendship. Otherwise, I would reconsider the friendship. You cannot assume her SO's views on her having other male friends while being in a relationship with her. What do you think about this?
 

Dan58

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As a result, we spent the next 5 months mostly fighting. It was extremely ugly. We had a lot of bad arguments and a lot of heated words were exchanged. I finally reached the point where I couldn't do it anymore.... my unrequited feelings were causing more harm than good. So I severed all ties with her and I walked away.

I realized one day that I had fallen in love all over again with her. And once again the feelings are unrequited because she is deeply involved with another man. And it is very, very serious.

So there's my big dilemma. And I have no idea what to do. It seems so senseless to me to fall in love with a woman who is so deeply committed to another.
There's no dilemma, leave her alone and move on. Love can be a selfish thing, which is why you can't settle with just being friends with her. If she's committed to someone else, she shouldn't be leading you on either. Relationships either move forward, or they end.. I sense by what you wrote above, that you already know what to do, your just having trouble overcoming your own feelings. Everyone has loved someone who doesn't love them back, but you move on.. jmo
 
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drulenarendes

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I do not know whether this is right, but this is what I would do if I was in your situation. I would ask her whether her significant other (SO) is aware of our friendship and our history. If he is aware of it, then I would continue the friendship. Otherwise, I would reconsider the friendship. You cannot assume her SO's views on her having other male friends while being in a relationship with her. What do you think about this?
Her boyfriend absolutely knows about our friendship and he supports every aspect of it. He accepts me as a Brother in Christ and loves and accepts me as much as she does.

In regards to the other replies, I am not necessarily trying to move on. She is my best friend. She will always be a part of my life, with or without the feelings I currently have. I'm just struggling to figure out what to do about feelings that I never wanted or sought after. I realize that I am more than likely never going to be with her in the way that I want to be, but I'm not walking away from her again. I did that once and it wasn't good for me at all. We have a beautiful friendship that I cherish deeply and I would not trade it for anything in the world. Do I want more? Yes. Am I happy with what we currently have? Absolutely. It's just a hard situation that I have to deal with somehow. God will take care of me, I know this. But I'm still struggling with this regardless.
 

Tinkerbell725

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Her boyfriend absolutely knows about our friendship and he supports every aspect of it. He accepts me as a Brother in Christ and loves and accepts me as much as she does.

In regards to the other replies, I am not necessarily trying to move on. She is my best friend. She will always be a part of my life, with or without the feelings I currently have. I'm just struggling to figure out what to do about feelings that I never wanted or sought after. I realize that I am more than likely never going to be with her in the way that I want to be, but I'm not walking away from her again. I did that once and it wasn't good for me at all. We have a beautiful friendship that I cherish deeply and I would not trade it for anything in the world. Do I want more? Yes. Am I happy with what we currently have? Absolutely. It's just a hard situation that I have to deal with somehow. God will take care of me, I know this. But I'm still struggling with this regardless.

Since you have decided not to leave her again its your choice but I believe there is no way you can ever get rid of the feelings you have for her, it will only grow and become more intense that you might forget and fall into sin. And its torture for you, you know its driving you crazy. Be gentle with yourself.
 

Roh_Chris

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Her boyfriend absolutely knows about our friendship and he supports every aspect of it. He accepts me as a Brother in Christ and loves and accepts me as much as she does.
That's good, then.

You will have to decide for yourself - can you suppress your feelings for her and limit to a close friendship? If you can, then by all means, continue it. If not, it is better you walk away. You may want your closest friend to validate your response to this question.
 
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coby

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It just always happens. That's why I protect myself and men and don't have these close friendships with men. Those feelings just come. God told me to contact my collegue. I had to tell him the gospel, but you can be a little bit friends but not real friends who share their heart. It always goes wrong and one gets hurt. I also thought: Lord why did You ask me? You know how this guy is, You know I'm lonely and crush very fast. Well I just had to talk to him once and that was that. God never asked me to go on and on and talk to him all the time.Wouldn't you rather have a girlfriend that's your best friend? What if God has one for you and she likes you and sees you talking to this girl all the time? Protect yourself. If she was the one it would have worked out years ago and she wouldn't be with another man now. You can't be like brother and sister, that close with someone.
 
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Ugly

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All right. So I have a pretty big problem that I am really struggling to deal with, and I am looking for any help and support I can get, because I am just so lost and confused right now and I don't know what to do.
That's amazingly similar to what i'm beginning to go through now. I was involved with someone and serious when she (recently) ended things. She wanted to remain friends, and i did as well. I have problems sometimes because i am hurt and angry still, but also still have the same feelings towards her and both the hurt and feelings come out. The only difference here is she still has lots of strong feelings for me, but has her reasons (all of which i'm not sure what they are) on why she ended things and won't get back together.
And i do believe God brought us together for a reason, and is keeping me with her for a reason. I even had to watch as she started dating another guy, which thankfully didn't last long.

But with your situation you're saying that God brought you two back together a second time. But in reality nothing you've said indicates that it was God. Memories are fairly easy to trigger. Personally i find it amazing you went that long without giving her any thought. But just because she came to mind doesn't mean God put you back together. You did that. You had a thought. And you Clearly still had feelings for her, even if you didn't recognize them. Otherwise why bother going back into your past to make a friend where there were so many good, and bad, strong feelings?

Don't tell her how you feel. Just because you feel something for her doesn't mean God put you there, doesn't mean you have to tell her. She has moved on, in reality you have not. All of you intentions and desires and feelings are about what makes you happy, not what's best for her. If you were really concerned about her and what's best for her (the true essence of love) you wouldn't have to question what the right thing to do is. But if you have a desire to share your feelings then you are not motivated by selfLess desires.

Like my ex, i admit there is a part of me that wants her back and so i hope for that. But more often i think about how she has always, and still is, struggling so badly. I know her well. I know how to help her through things. She says it herself that no one she has ever known has been able to understand and be as patient and know how to talk to her during her times of need, as i do. And i know that too. So i stay friends, partly, and largely, because the pain of hurting her by leaving her with no one is greater than the pain of being with her and knowing i can't have her in my life the way i want. Because i love her, i sacrifice of myself for her happiness.
Perhaps it's time to step back and check what it is you Really want and how you Really feel. Because from what you have stated so far you are more concerned about what you want than what this woman needs. And that's not love.
 

PennEd

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There are some basic facts you must face. Men and women are different. We are wired differently. I am with the one poster who said you can be casual friends with the opposite sex, and certainly a brother and sister in Christ with that type of love, but NOT very close, best friends. She is probably unaware that your new relationship is causing you pain, confusionand distress.

This is not something that is going to get better over time. You have been hard-wired now to have those feelings when you are close to her. They are NOT going away. I know it's tough to hear, but take it from people who have nothing to gain by telling hard truths. Slowly pull back and end it.

Peace, love and Grace to you, in Jesus name.
 

spunkycat08

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OP:

I agree with the replies from the other members.

My husband was in a similar situation with a former female neighbor of his shortly before we started dating, while we were dating, and after we got engaged. He was never romantically interested in her. However, she was since she was the one chasing him while we were dating each-other. She no longer lives in the same apartment complex that we live in. She too had to move on.

I hope you read the links below. Very wise advice is mentioned in these links.

Biblical Dating: Just Friends | Boundless
Pure Intimacy - Not Your Buddy
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-attraction-doctor/201304/can-men-and-women-be-just-friends
Can Men and Women Just be Friends?
 
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drulenarendes

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I feel like none of you are really understanding the situation here. I wish I could explain it better, what she means to me, even as a friend. I was in a deep, dark place for many years, and when she came back into my life, she transformed it. I went from being a man who had no hope, no future, to one who was suddenly full of optimism and hope. The future suddenly seemed so bright. This woman has transformed my life and has brought me blessings that I would have never dreamed possible. She is the most important person in my life, and I will always be happy to have her in my life as a friend, even if nothing more can ever come of it.

All of you seem to want me to walk away from her again, but I refuse to make the same mistake twice. And even if I wanted to, I couldn't do that to her again. It would tear her apart. I am such a big and important part of her life that if she lost me again, I fear of what it might do to her. We both strongly believe that God brought us back together, and that He has big plans in store for us, whatever they may be.

The bottom line is, I would rather deal with the pain of loving her and not having her in that way, then not having her in my life at all. I can't even bear to think of life without her. So she is never going anywhere.
 

blue_ladybug

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God gives us blessings, people don't. And God doesn't want you pining over her unrequited love forever, either. She has a boyfriend, you need to respect that, whether he approves of your friendship with her or not. No offense but you're acting like a lovesick puppy drooling over another puppy's bone.. Don't cut her out of your life completely, just leave her alone, and beg God to take these feelings away from you..
 

Dan58

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All of you seem to want me to walk away from her again, but I refuse to make the same mistake twice. And even if I wanted to, I couldn't do that to her again. It would tear her apart. I am such a big and important part of her life that if she lost me again, I fear of what it might do to her. We both strongly believe that God brought us back together, and that He has big plans in store for us, whatever they may be.

The bottom line is, I would rather deal with the pain of loving her and not having her in that way, then not having her in my life at all. I can't even bear to think of life without her. So she is never going anywhere.
Its ultimately your call, and hers of course. But its not healthy to be consumed or obsessed with someone you can never possess or have an intimate relationship with. If you were married, would you want your wife involved with someone who was madly in love with her? Even if it was just a platonic relationship, its doesn't present a healthy situation. A casual friendship should be your limitation, but your "in love" with someone who cannot return that love and will eventually be married to someone else. Then what? For your own sake, don't waste your time hoping for someone who will never be yours, because you may be missing something better.... Lots of fish in the sea, keep fishing. jmo
 

spunkycat08

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I feel like none of you are really understanding the situation here. I wish I could explain it better, what she means to me, even as a friend. I was in a deep, dark place for many years, and when she came back into my life, she transformed it. I went from being a man who had no hope, no future, to one who was suddenly full of optimism and hope. The future suddenly seemed so bright. This woman has transformed my life and has brought me blessings that I would have never dreamed possible. She is the most important person in my life, and I will always be happy to have her in my life as a friend, even if nothing more can ever come of it.

All of you seem to want me to walk away from her again, but I refuse to make the same mistake twice. And even if I wanted to, I couldn't do that to her again. It would tear her apart. I am such a big and important part of her life that if she lost me again, I fear of what it might do to her. We both strongly believe that God brought us back together, and that He has big plans in store for us, whatever they may be.

The bottom line is, I would rather deal with the pain of loving her and not having her in that way, then not having her in my life at all. I can't even bear to think of life without her. So she is never going anywhere.

OP:

She needs to respect her relationship with her boyfriend, and you need to respect her relationship as well.

As for God's big plans in store for the two of you...

Does God want to break up their relationship so the two of you can get together?
Does God want you to interfere in their relationship so the two of you can get together?
Do you want to be responsible for the breakup of their relationship?

Please talk to God about the entire situation, and follow what he tells you, not what you think he is telling you..
Please do not be obstinate. It will not help you or her.

You need to distance yourself from the entire situation so you can think clearly because according to your post as well as to your replies, you are not thinking clearly.

This entire situation is a mess, and the longer you continue pining over her, the worse it will get. Do you really want to be responsible for the outcome?

And OP I am a married female.
 

spunkycat08

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Its ultimately your call, and hers of course. But its not healthy to be consumed or obsessed with someone you can never possess or have an intimate relationship with. If you were married, would you want your wife involved with someone who was madly in love with her? Even if it was just a platonic relationship, its doesn't present a healthy situation. A casual friendship should be your limitation, but your "in love" with someone who cannot return that love and will eventually be married to someone else. Then what? For your own sake, don't waste your time hoping for someone who will never be yours, because you may be missing something better.... Lots of fish in the sea, keep fishing. jmo

OP:


I agree with this reply.

Please pay attention to what is mentioned in this reply.
 

cinder

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I feel like none of you are really understanding the situation here. I wish I could explain it better, what she means to me, even as a friend. I was in a deep, dark place for many years, and when she came back into my life, she transformed it. I went from being a man who had no hope, no future, to one who was suddenly full of optimism and hope. The future suddenly seemed so bright. This woman has transformed my life and has brought me blessings that I would have never dreamed possible. She is the most important person in my life, and I will always be happy to have her in my life as a friend, even if nothing more can ever come of it.

All of you seem to want me to walk away from her again, but I refuse to make the same mistake twice. And even if I wanted to, I couldn't do that to her again. It would tear her apart. I am such a big and important part of her life that if she lost me again, I fear of what it might do to her. We both strongly believe that God brought us back together, and that He has big plans in store for us, whatever they may be.

The bottom line is, I would rather deal with the pain of loving her and not having her in that way, then not having her in my life at all. I can't even bear to think of life without her. So she is never going anywhere.
I think we understand better than you think we do. Many of us have been in similar situations, and at the time we all feel like abandoning someone we care about is wrong. But this relationship as it stands now is unsustainable. It's not going to end well if you continue. If you're really that huge and important a part of her life that she can't bear to be without you, that's a problem in and of itself, especially when she already has a different guy filling the boyfriend / prospective life partner role. But honestly, I think you're fooling yourself about how much she needs you because you want her to need you and not be able to do without you. Without knowing her or her side of the story, it's pretty difficult to comment on how she feels, but you are sounding more emotionally dependent on her than like you truly care about her and her well being.

So I'll echo what other people have said, honor your friendship and the impact she has had on your life by developing your own life where you can be healthy without her. and it's going to hurt and it's going to be difficult, and there will be day you feel like curling up into a ball and crying and that's ok, but just the stuff you say here makes it sound like the intensity of your emotions is preventing you from being a truly good friend and will end up making you a needy burdensome friend.

So one question and one real life test you can actually apply. The question is how does your friendship benefit her and help her grow as a person? And her getting an ego boost from your dependence on her isn't a benefit. And the test is to not initiate contact with her. If she hasn't responded to your last message, don't message again but just wait for her and if it doesn't seem like she's getting around to it in a timely manner, take the hint that you aren't that high on her priority list.
 
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kenthomas27

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I feel like none of you are really understanding the situation here. I wish I could explain it better, what she means to me, even as a friend. I was in a deep, dark place for many years, and when she came back into my life, she transformed it. I went from being a man who had no hope, no future, to one who was suddenly full of optimism and hope. The future suddenly seemed so bright. This woman has transformed my life and has brought me blessings that I would have never dreamed possible. She is the most important person in my life, and I will always be happy to have her in my life as a friend, even if nothing more can ever come of it.

All of you seem to want me to walk away from her again, but I refuse to make the same mistake twice. And even if I wanted to, I couldn't do that to her again. It would tear her apart. I am such a big and important part of her life that if she lost me again, I fear of what it might do to her. We both strongly believe that God brought us back together, and that He has big plans in store for us, whatever they may be.

The bottom line is, I would rather deal with the pain of loving her and not having her in that way, then not having her in my life at all. I can't even bear to think of life without her. So she is never going anywhere.
Sounds to me like you've made up your mind then. But just for the record, I'm not buying into the boyfriend's knowing every aspect of your feelings for her. I believe he'd have problems with you and/or her if he really did know. Also - another thing to consider is this - as much as you'd like to think you know her thoughts and how she feels about you, your track record hasn't been all that good. Every bit of evidence suggests she feels very differently about you than you do for her.

Everybody here, bar none has advised this is an unhealthy relationship for you in its current state, but if you want to keep this thing going and do things the same way that's caused you such misery and then expect different results, then knock yourself out. The concern of these folks though has been for you.