is it Wrong to not agree to marrying a woman unless God is allowed at your wedding

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Truehart77

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Since I was a kid I have always believed that marriage was made by God and that he should be allowed to be at your wedding (his Spirit) I have tried for over 14 years to find a nice woman to share my life with and it seems almost imposable when you have the kind of heart that thinks of others before yourself. Are their still women out in this world that actually would let God be at their wedding or am I wishing for miracles that may never come, I'm asking this because i have had people tell me that I should get with the program and realize that marriage is not made by God when i believe it was. I want a marriage that is grounded in Christ so that this world cant touch it a marriage that is so strong Satan himself would not dare go near it because God is watching over me and the woman I'm with, does this still exist?
 
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Ugly

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Never did exist as a guarantee. Some marriages are strong. But this whole notion of 'satan wouldn't go near my marriage it's so strong' seems overboard and excessive. Marriage is a risk, period. Even well known, well established Christians have bailed on their marriages for various reasons, or had their spouses bail on them. Or cheat. It's a great concept, but i think it's a lot harder to pull off.
Also with such high expectations you may create problems within the marriage. What happens if your wife doesn't always 100% live up to this standard? What if You don't? Then what?

This whole 'God at my wedding' thing sounds weird. I don't think there's a Christian woman (who is a true Christian) that would say they wouldn't want God 'at their wedding', so to speak. There are plenty of Christian women who want God in the middle of their marriage. But you seem to have created concepts and idea that go well beyond the norm into a realm that reeks more of superstition than biblical basis. And as a result you have a standard so high you have made it so no one can achieve it (not even you). But perhaps, deep down, that's what you want.
 
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coby2

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Since I was a kid I have always believed that marriage was made by God and that he should be allowed to be at your wedding (his Spirit) I have tried for over 14 years to find a nice woman to share my life with and it seems almost imposable when you have the kind of heart that thinks of others before yourself. Are their still women out in this world that actually would let God be at their wedding or am I wishing for miracles that may never come, I'm asking this because i have had people tell me that I should get with the program and realize that marriage is not made by God when i believe it was. I want a marriage that is grounded in Christ so that this world cant touch it a marriage that is so strong Satan himself would not dare go near it because God is watching over me and the woman I'm with, does this still exist?
Of course. I had that but we stopped praying every morning for 2 hours and then satan could destroy it. But God forgave us. My ex found a new wife since for us it would be sin to remarry, who has God first. He also prayed for me and he said God had someone but not now, but I don't know if it was really God or just him being nice. I see so many of those couples who did not divorce either. Derek Prince has a great book on it, God is a Matchmaker. He also preaches about it on youtube how God gave him his first wife who died and then his second. They had God first. There was such unity. They stayed with a couple in Israel in their house and it was a real testimony.
Just pray and be open to what He wants. A neighbour from my mom, his wife died, she said: your new wife is in China. He found her there. My ex wanted a wife that listens. Women in Holland are mostly feminist. He found one on a dating site. He prayed: God I want a wife now or otherwise I stay alone the rest of my life if You don't want that. I prayed for him too. He went to a dating site to delete his profile because he gave up and her niece had put a profile for her there. She wanted her to marry a rich Dutch guy lol but she went for the poor one. She didn't like Asian guys, but God said that's not good and he's Asian. It's a great marriage, no fights, unity, God comes first. Pray for someone who wants to save people and get the harvest in and someone who prays. If you don't pray together it can maybe work for some, but in my case not.
 
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Sharon38

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marriage is from God, because he started the first family, but always remember their is know perfect human being, ready to accept your partner weakness and also let Christ be the foundation, allow the Spirit of God to rule your home, follow the Biblical principle of marriage, "Submit to one another, woman should submit and the man should love. if we follow these principle carefully one we enjoy marriage. indeed marriage is sweet in Christ foundation. broken courtship is far better than broken marriage know you spouse before marriage.
 
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Truehart77

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I just view God as the one who should be in the center of Marriage, I forgot to add that part to my thread. Faith has always been my strength and its the one thing thats kept me going without it i wouldn't be here right now, I actually meant i just want a woman thats willing to let God's presence be in the church on our wedding day since most people don't let god be a part of their marriage and I feel he should be.
 

melita916

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there are women who want God to be the foundation of the marriage/home.

these women exist.
 
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LiJo

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Are their still women out in this world that actually would let God be at their wedding or am I wishing for miracles that may never come, I'm asking this because i have had people tell me that I should get with the program and realize that marriage is not made by God when i believe it was. I want a marriage that is grounded in Christ so that this world cant touch it a marriage that is so strong Satan himself would not dare go near it because God is watching over me and the woman I'm with, does this still exist?
I personally want GOD to be the center of my dating relationship and definitely at my wedding and in my marriage. I know plenty of ladies who want the same thing.
 

achildofGod

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Since I was a kid I have always believed that marriage was made by God and that he should be allowed to be at your wedding (his Spirit) I have tried for over 14 years to find a nice woman to share my life with and it seems almost imposable when you have the kind of heart that thinks of others before yourself. Are their still women out in this world that actually would let God be at their wedding or am I wishing for miracles that may never come, I'm asking this because i have had people tell me that I should get with the program and realize that marriage is not made by God when i believe it was. I want a marriage that is grounded in Christ so that this world cant touch it a marriage that is so strong Satan himself would not dare go near it because God is watching over me and the woman I'm with, does this still exist?

Well now, I believe that God is always with us wherever we are.
Yes, they are still Godly women out there, I married one almost
43 years ago, still love her as much today, as I did when she
walked down the asile at church, God was there, because, we
were there.
satan comes after all of Gods children, he's not affraid to attact
anyone, anywhere. So, on that note, you'll never find a marriage
that satan doesn't attact.
 

cinder

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Since I was a kid I have always believed that marriage was made by God and that he should be allowed to be at your wedding (his Spirit) I have tried for over 14 years to find a nice woman to share my life with and it seems almost imposable when you have the kind of heart that thinks of others before yourself. Are their still women out in this world that actually would let God be at their wedding or am I wishing for miracles that may never come, I'm asking this because i have had people tell me that I should get with the program and realize that marriage is not made by God when i believe it was. I want a marriage that is grounded in Christ so that this world cant touch it a marriage that is so strong Satan himself would not dare go near it because God is watching over me and the woman I'm with, does this still exist?
14 years and can't find a single decent Christian woman? Possible causes:

1) Maybe your standards for what makes a woman Christian enough are excessive. Do you live up to your own standards for her?

2) You expect a good relationship to have no problems or conflicts. Even the best ones do. Life is hard and being married doesn't make it any easier.

3) "You have the kind of heart that thinks of others before yourself". Do you have a savior complex? Are you primarily attracted to needy, messed up women that you want to help or rescue?

4) Are you overspiritualizing every aspect of life so that a woman with you would feel like she always has to be on her best, churchy behavior?

5) Despite your high opinion of yourself, there may be practical reasons why you aren't all that good of a marriage prospect.

Those are some guesses I would have based on your post, but it was a short post and they're only guesses. So take it as food for thought and feel free to ask some newly married or engaged couples you know how they met and if they'd have any advice for you in your search.
 

Born_Again

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14 years and can't find a single decent Christian woman? Possible causes:

1) Maybe your standards for what makes a woman Christian enough are excessive. Do you live up to your own standards for her?

2) You expect a good relationship to have no problems or conflicts. Even the best ones do. Life is hard and being married doesn't make it any easier.

3) "You have the kind of heart that thinks of others before yourself". Do you have a savior complex? Are you primarily attracted to needy, messed up women that you want to help or rescue?

4) Are you overspiritualizing every aspect of life so that a woman with you would feel like she always has to be on her best, churchy behavior?

5) Despite your high opinion of yourself, there may be practical reasons why you aren't all that good of a marriage prospect.

Those are some guesses I would have based on your post, but it was a short post and they're only guesses. So take it as food for thought and feel free to ask some newly married or engaged couples you know how they met and if they'd have any advice for you in your search.
I'm sorry, Cinder. But, thats the pot calling the kettle black. I would ask women the same thing. I think there can be an unreasonable expectation from both sides.
 

melita916

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I'm sorry, Cinder. But, thats the pot calling the kettle black. I would ask women the same thing. I think there can be an unreasonable expectation from both sides.
i'm thinking cinder geared it the way she did because the OP is a guy.

but i agree with ya on the unreasonable expectations from both sides :eek:
 

Born_Again

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i'm thinking cinder geared it the way she did because the OP is a guy.
Meh, it just seemed kinda biased. It may not have been the intent, but thats how it came off.
 

slave

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Yes, this still exists because it's not up to the woman or man its up to God. Yet, God, just as in the relationship to God Himself, gives us a will of choice. If human love does not carry a man beyond himself, it is not love. If love is always discreet, always wise, always sensible and calculating, never carried beyond itself, it is not love at all. Affection; sure. Warmth of feeling even; absolutely, but it does not have the true nature of love in it.

So, we start out with dreams don't we? Even develop our sense in those dreams of what is great vs. good. How a man needs to be, how a woman needs to be, but usually the one thinking of the other in a quest for that perfect White-Pickett fence marriage. And the "I's" have it. Our expectations aren't Gods messages at all, they are our desires righteoused up. And our first year of marriage is training the other how this picture of perfectness must be implemented to have the godly marriage you saw in the dream you had before the marriage, while your spouse is busy doing the same. Of course due to the fact men and women are inherently different this is a disaster from day one. Either the one caves and lives pretentiously to survive the marriage calling it love, or they hold their ground and let years become their chalk board for teaching. "If only they would....I would......"

And heres a news flash for some too: Gods Word tells us that success and security in a relationship is found not in simply submitting to the other partner, but to do it by submission as we have submitted to Christ. A very important component in the nature of love in any relationship, for God is love right? Winning the other party over to your righteous thinking is not the plan of God. Compromising for the sake of love is not loving your spouse, surviving it; maybe, but not leaving behind a healthy fervent love relationship. If we live on those grounds you may even survive for around 10 years before the marriage caves in around you. Suddenly comments such as, "I'm concerned about my marriage," surface. Yet, this too is not a biblical view of things. God wants us to be committed, not to the institution of marriage, but to a person, namely the one you said your vows to.

Marriage is not a campaign to make what you believe is right to be harbored by your spouse. It is not a role that must sacrifice simply for the sake of scoring points with God. God says, "Wives submit to your husbands, as to the Lord." (Ephesians 5:22). And, (Ephesians 5:25) says: "Husbands love your wives, just as Christ loved the Church and gave Himself up for her."

So, wives think about your relationship with God right now; as Christ has loved you and as you respect God for that relationship, so you should love and respect your husband praying for him not because of him, trusting in God to take care of the rest. Men we need to love with an outpouring to our wives as if it is more important than our own life, like that of our relationship to God, I have been crucified in Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me -- in the same way we need to love as God has loved us giving of ourselves unconditionally to our wives fully poured out. This is not about how lovable she is, or whether she has earned your respect and trust, it is in honoring God for what He faithfully has given you, in turn loving her unconditionally.

When both these wheels are turning toward each other under Christ's control, "If God is for us who can be against us?" Of course successful marriages are possible. "Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate." Strong marriages are not only possible they are inevitable in keeping with Gods involvement and control; His purposes and blessings. We need to confess: and take responsibility for turning our desires into expectations. We need to ask: "What can I do to make the marriage richer?" We need to reward: like you did when you were dating ( old school courting). Even scientists have shown every action and word is either investing in the relationship or tearing it down, there is no neutral ground. Thus, in our first commitment to God, are we adding to or subtracting from Gods love in the relationship?

The only thing you need to be busy about right now is being the man or woman the man or woman you want is praying for.
 

cinder

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I'm sorry, Cinder. But, thats the pot calling the kettle black. I would ask women the same thing. I think there can be an unreasonable expectation from both sides.
Meh, it just seemed kinda biased. It may not have been the intent, but thats how it came off.
Melita wins sort of. My response was a specific response to the OP in broad terms that fit the lack of information given. In no way was it meant to stereotype men or women, it's just that I was responding to a man looking for a woman. I'd freely admit to having at least shades of those issues myself, in some seasons more than shades. But I can point out the reasons I'm single for myself, I don't ask the internet to do it for me.
 
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Ugly

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Meh, it just seemed kinda biased. It may not have been the intent, but thats how it came off.
She didn't generalize it to a gender. She spoke directly to the OP based off of his personal expectations and wording and left her comments squarely on his statements. How exactly is her responding to his words biased? She shared many of the same sentiments I did. And others I didn't think of but I agree with. If you find bias in one person speaking directly to another about their own words then I can't help but wonder where that idea came from.
 
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Sharon38

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a good Christian woman will always want God to be at the center of their marriage, without God she can never enjoy the man because God should be the head of that man. but what i see socialization has cause problem to marriage and is difficult for many women today to follow biblical principle. trust God you can still get a woman who want God at the center of their marriage.