Girls would you give a guy a chance that struggles with porn as a boyfriend?

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Girls would you give a guy a chance that struggles with porn as a boyfriend?
 

blue_ladybug

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Personally, not a chance. That's asking them to take on YOUR addictions/problems, as well as any THEY might already have.. Addiction in a relationship affects BOTH people, so nope, I wouldn't..
 

Lynx

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For some reason I'm reminded of that story of the alcoholic who worked at the liquor store...

What? There is no such story? Maybe there's a reason for that.

I'm not trying to be facetious, and I know this sounds really blunt, but it's the same thing. Porn strikes at the heart of a relationship in exactly the same way that alcoholism would make a job at a liquor store a really bad idea.
 

mailmandan

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Most men who struggle with porn, struggle in secret, but it eventually finds them out.
 
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Deepdistress21

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Of course, we all struggle with things. There's many things I struggle with that he wouldn't. You're judging and acting like your better then them if you don't honestly. If you differ views on wether it's right/wrong thats another thing.
 
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Of course, we all struggle with things. There's many things I struggle with that he wouldn't. You're judging and acting like your better then them if you don't honestly. If you differ views on wether it's right/wrong thats another thing.
I'm guessing it's a topic you know little about then.
No ones acting like they're better than him. Porn is an unhealthy addiction spiritually, mentally and emotionally and has destroyed many relationships and marriages. And like other addictions there can often be a degree of denial and an unwillingness to take the steps needed to change.
And since most porn addicts that marry hide their addiction from their partner, once it comes out it is often devastating to their partner and their relationship. Having this awareness and how destructive this addiction can be, and trying to make this clear is not judging or thinking you are better than someone.
Judging does not mean to show people their error. And showing people their errors does not mean you look down on someone. Seems you are rather confused about many things here and what they mean.
 

jsr1221

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Personally, not a chance. That's asking them to take on YOUR addictions/problems, as well as any THEY might already have.. Addiction in a relationship affects BOTH people, so nope, I wouldn't..

To be fair, though, we all struggle with something. We all have a hurt, habit or hangup. There's a difference between asking someone to fix a problem for them, whether it's an addiction, a mental illness, trust issues, etc. And then there's coming into a relationship with these and working on getting over these. That would be like someone not wanting to be in a relationship with you because of your depression or your epilepsy. "Ohh you have epilepsy? Well I don't want to deal with that. That's too much baggage to work with." Doesn't sound too good, now does it? And yes I know epilepsy isn't an addiction, but I hope you know what my point is (that we ALL have something). Porn is never okay, don't get me wrong. But for a woman to just basically say "Eww you struggle with porn?" that's kinda a bit judgmental. There's a sexual integrity group for both men and women in Celebrate Recovery, as well as other 12-step self-help groups similar to Alcoholic's Anonymous.
 
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jsr1221

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I'm guessing it's a topic you know little about then.
No ones acting like they're better than him. Porn is an unhealthy addiction spiritually, mentally and emotionally and has destroyed many relationships and marriages. And like other addictions there can often be a degree of denial and an unwillingness to take the steps needed to change.
And since most porn addicts that marry hide their addiction from their partner, once it comes out it is often devastating to their partner and their relationship. Having this awareness and how destructive this addiction can be, and trying to make this clear is not judging or thinking you are better than someone.
Judging does not mean to show people their error. And showing people their errors does not mean you look down on someone. Seems you are rather confused about many things here and what they mean.
If someone goes into relationship and admits a struggle with porn, how is that a sense of denial exactly?
 
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The only chance a man should expect is the chance to prove that it no longer controls him. Beyond that, it is unfair and selfish for you to expect a woman to walk into the world you have allowed yourself to become trapped in.
 

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Why settle for a man with issues. Set your standards a little higher. Do you want to set yourself up for pain?
 

Corbinscam

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Not a girl but it would depend on your definition of struggle. If struggle indicates an on going addiction that controls him...run away quickly. If struggle means something he has battled and dealt with...thats entirely different.
 
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Not to mention that he would be expecting her to live up to air brushed pictures of "perfect" pixelated women that exist only in his imagination...I would not call that a healthy start.
 
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Deepdistress21

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I'm guessing it's a topic you know little about then.
No ones acting like they're better than him. Porn is an unhealthy addiction spiritually, mentally and emotionally and has destroyed many relationships and marriages. And like other addictions there can often be a degree of denial and an unwillingness to take the steps needed to change.
And since most porn addicts that marry hide their addiction from their partner, once it comes out it is often devastating to their partner and their relationship. Having this awareness and how destructive this addiction can be, and trying to make this clear is not judging or thinking you are better than someone.
Judging does not mean to show people their error. And showing people their errors does not mean you look down on someone. Seems you are rather confused about many things here and what they mean.
Actually, That's not true at all. I do know what I'm talking about my opinion just differs from yours so do not say that my opinion is confusion, It's just different. As I said, It's different if they view it as okay and you don't. But when you admit your struggling, and your trying to heal and do better then it's not different then other issues. My disorder or depression could ruin a relationship or a family just as much. My disorder is just as much of an addiction and it's a sin as vanity as well. Just like jsr1221 said it but his is better worded.
 

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There are good guys out there. I am raising one. While he is a bit young for you...there are others who aren't.
 
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Deepdistress21

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Not to mention that he would be expecting her to live up to air brushed pictures of "perfect" pixelated women that exist only in his imagination...I would not call that a healthy start.

That's a far assumption. There's many types of porn.
 

jsr1221

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Not a girl but it would depend on your definition of struggle. If struggle indicates an on going addiction that controls him...run away quickly. If struggle means something he has battled and dealt with...thats entirely different.

If someone has battled and dealt with something, that person doesn't really struggle with it anymore.
 
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Actually, That's not true at all. I do know what I'm talking about my opinion just differs from yours so do not say that my opinion is confusion, It's just different. As I said, It's different if they view it as okay and you don't. But when you admit your struggling, and your trying to heal and do better then it's not different then other issues. My disorder or depression could ruin a relationship or a family just as much. My disorder is just as much of an addiction and it's a sin as vanity as well. Just like jsr1221 said it but his is better worded.
As secretive and mysterious as you've chosen to be, I cannot just agree with you. Unless, what you mean is that, just as a man can, you COULD do something about your situation, but you just won't make the effort.

The addiction to pornography CAN be beaten. Several of us here have done it, and others here have already started their journey to freedom.
 
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Deepdistress21

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Yes, it can be beaten. What I'm saying is that I would accept to be with someone whos struggling with it just as I struggle to try and overcome my issues.

strug·gle
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1.
make forceful or violent efforts to get free of restraint or constriction.

Struggle is to try and get over it. It's not acceptance of the addiction.
 

jsr1221

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As secretive and mysterious as you've chosen to be, I cannot just agree with you. Unless, what you mean is that, just as a man can, you COULD do something about your situation, but you just won't make the effort.

The addiction to pornography CAN be beaten. Several of us here have done it, and others here have already started their journey to freedom.
She didn't say pornography couldn't be beaten. She just meant that it's different when you admit you are struggling with it and you are working on getting over it, versus not doing anything about it or even not admitting there's a problem and actually trying to hide it. You know what the first step in recovery is? Admitting there's a problem. How can any addict go on the journey to freedom if there isn't an admission of "Hey, I am struggling with this."?
 

blue_ladybug

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To be fair, though, we all struggle with something. We all have a hurt, habit or hangup. There's a difference between asking someone to fix a problem for them, whether it's an addiction, a mental illness, trust issues, etc. And then there's coming into a relationship with these and working on getting over these. That would be like someone not wanting to be in a relationship with you because of your depression or your epilepsy. "Ohh you have epilepsy? Well I don't want to deal with that. That's too much baggage to work with." Doesn't sound too good, now does it? And yes I know epilepsy isn't an addiction, but I hope you know what my point is (that we ALL have something). Porn is never okay, don't get me wrong. But for a woman to just basically say "Eww you struggle with porn?" that's kinda a bit judgmental. There's a sexual integrity group for both men and women in Celebrate Recovery, as well as other 12-step self-help groups similar to Alcoholic's Anonymous.

I wouldn't want someone to take on my depression, or seizures, along with their own troubles. What if BOTH parties have an addiction? That's just asking for disaster to happen in the relationship. And nowhere in my previous reply did I say "eww porn problem". I would just explain that I can't take on the responsibility of taking on the consequences of their addiction. Like Willie said, it's unfair to bring someone else into the world that you created.