Star Wars - Episode 7 and beyond. . .

[Off123123123]

I have never found myself musing about fiction, and the outcomes of fictional universes before. Maybe the insanity is finally setting in, because I am thinking about such things.

Where in the world is the Star Wars universe going after episode 7? I've heard so many wild theories.

Some have said because the plot points of episode 7 are similar to the plot points of episode 4, we can expect episodes 8 an 9 to mirror 5 and 6. Some have even felt like episode 7 was lacking because of the similarity in plot points.

I don't find episode 7 lacking. It's part one of a new trilogy. They have to save the flash boom bang for the build in storyline climax. Episode 7 seemed adequate and that's all it needed. As far as the similar plot points, maybe the writer is setting us up to expect the same, but 8 and 9 will have wild plot twists and leave us stunned.

Another observation people made about episode 7 is that so many things just seemed outrageous and hard to believe. But again, it's part one of a new trilogy, the following episodes may unwrap part of the WHY of episode 7.

I feel ashamed for even having these types of musings over fiction.

 

[seoulsearch]

If you start talking about Harry Potter, I'm outta here...

Kidding.

I may get stoned for this (what else is new ), but I really couldn't get into Episode 7. The most important thing to me in a story is the characters, and I couldn't get attached to any of these characters.

At one point, I started to have a glimmer of hope of a new series that would see Han and Rey bickering across the universe in a hearty father-daughter scenario that polished off some of Han's rough edges, but as everyone knows, one move with a lightsaber dashed all those hopes.

Star Wars was the first movie I ever saw in the theater, so I have a great deal of nostalgia attached to it.

I have to admit that seeing our youthful and feisty heroes... Looking like they're ready to settle into an Inter-Glactic Shady Pines... was a little unnerving.

I've read a few online theories about what's going to happen in the continuation of the saga... I just hope it doesn't involve killing off Luke or Leia... along with all my childhood dreams!

 

[zeroturbulence]

I'm pretty sure I already know how Episode 8 will go...

Finn is the new Luke
Luke is the new Obi-Wan
Rey is the new Princess Leia
Poe is the new Han Solo
Kylo is the new Darth

Am I missing anyone? C3 and R2 are still themselves.
Oh and Chewbacca is ... retired?

 

[Off123123123]

I'm pretty sure I already know how Episode 8 will go...

Finn is the new Luke
Luke is the new Obi-Wan
Rey is the new Princess Leia
Poe is the new Han Solo
Kylo is the new Darth

Am I missing anyone? C3 and R2 are still themselves.
Oh and Chewbacca is ... retired?

Just wait for the amazing plot twists. He's perfectly set you up.

 

[jenniferand2]

I think Star Wars needs to retire.... It is like a never ending drama lol The first few ok fine but come one now 7 yawwwwwnnnn cant we think of other things to do that are different... next we will have Luke's uncles grandpa's sister's cousins baby daddy in the movie and he will be the evil one to take over the dark side.. of course it will be done hill billy style with monster trucks with kegs in the back of them lol....

 

[Off123123123]

I think Star Wars needs to retire.... It is like a never ending drama lol The first few ok fine but come one now 7 yawwwwwnnnn cant we think of other things to do that are different... next we will have Luke's uncles grandpa's sister's cousins baby daddy in the movie and he will be the evil one to take over the dark side.. of course it will be done hill billy style with monster trucks with kegs in the back of them lol....

Star Wars + Donald Trump supporters and Fox News fanbois.

Sounds promising.

 

[zeroturbulence]

Just wait for the amazing plot twists. He's perfectly set you up.

To be honest, I haven't been impressed by a single star wars sequel/prequel since Return of The Jedi (1983). Episode 7 seemed like a kid's movie to me. I'm hoping that Rogue One will be good. The trailer looks promising. I might actually see it tomorrow.

 

[Off123123123]

To be honest, I haven't been impressed by a single star wars sequel/prequel since Return of The Jedi (1983). Episode 7 seemed like a kid's movie to me. I'm hoping that Rogue One will be good. The trailer looks promising. I might actually see it tomorrow.

JK.

 

[matt20]

Star Wars is AWESOME and the best fiction. THEY TOOK OUT THE MIDICHLORIANS!!!! They were used to gauge the level of a Jedi's power. Where on Earth did Rey learn to use the force. Anakin wasn't the chosen one because he didn't bring lasting balance to the force. How on Earth did Rey, an uneducated in the force jedi, beat Kylo Ren, a sith lord(if that term still exists). They actually dismiss it in the film; that little egg alien lady who knows the force says that "the dark side was called many names: the Empire, the Sith. Now it is called the First Order." A lot of cracks in this series, but we must be captains, and captains go down with their ships!

 

[wanderer6059]

I'm pretty sure I already know how Episode 8 will go...

Finn is the new Luke
Luke is the new Obi-Wan
Rey is the new Princess Leia
Poe is the new Han Solo
Kylo is the new Darth

Am I missing anyone? C3 and R2 are still themselves.
Oh and Chewbacca is ... retired?

Rey is the new Luke(shes tots his dughter.)
Luke is the new Obi-Wan(not gonna die like he did...)
Finn is the new Princess Leia or a BA jedhi knight to be
Poe is the new Han Solo(or Jaina, Jacen and Anakin Solo is)
Kylo is the new Darth(theres gonna be some redemption.)

 

[Off123123123]

Star Wars is AWESOME and the best fiction. THEY TOOK OUT THE MIDICHLORIANS!!!! They were used to gauge the level of a Jedi's power. Where on Earth did Rey learn to use the force. Anakin wasn't the chosen one because he didn't bring lasting balance to the force. How on Earth did Rey, an uneducated in the force jedi, beat Kylo Ren, a sith lord(if that term still exists). They actually dismiss it in the film; that little egg alien lady who knows the force says that "the dark side was called many names: the Empire, the Sith. Now it is called the First Order." A lot of cracks in this series, but we must be captains, and captains go down with their ships!

What seem like plot holes or things that shouldn't have happened will be explained in upcoming sequels. I don't think the writing is that bad.

 

[Lynx]

Questions about the Disney Star Wars movies:

How many planet-size killing machines will the bad guys build? Why does every planet-size killing machine have that one fatal flaw? Who keeps leaking these flaws to the good guys?

How could Disney fob off the whole "This is basically a warmed-over plot from the first movie" as something that HAD TO HAPPEN? Yeah, they really said that. They acknowledged SW7 was remake of SW4 and they said they had to go over some familiar ground to lay the foundation for the rest of the movies. Really? They spent a whole movie retelling the same plot, they admitted it, and they try to say it's a GOOD thing?

Why did Disney throw away the whole Star Wars canon? They had a gold mine of plots to make into movies and they chunked it all out the window. Do you have any idea how many fans would love to see the Thrawn trilogy on the big screen? What about Mara Jade? By the time SW7 is set in, she's supposed to have already tried to kill Luke, worked with Luke and finally married Luke. And what about the aliens who could "entech" the life energy of sentient beings, basically cramming people's minds into their machines to run them? Hey Disney, you're wasting a whole universe of possibilities here!

Okay the Thrawn bit deserves its own paragraph. There was one scene where Thrawn tricked the whole planet Coruscant into surrendering. He positioned cloaked ships just inside the boundary of the planetary shield, then he brought in uncloaked ships to threaten the planet. When they threw up their planetary shield he had his uncloaked ships (outside the shield) fire at the planet, then EXACTLY the instant their shots hit the shield, the cloaked ships fired shots in the same direction. The timing was impeccable and he tricked Coruscant into thinking he had some great weapon that could fire right through their shields.

Really? You're throwing all that away so you can remake SW 4 again? Has anybody at Disney even read the books?

 

[Off123123123]

Questions about the Disney Star Wars movies:

How many planet-size killing machines will the bad guys build? Why does every planet-size killing machine have that one fatal flaw? Who keeps leaking these flaws to the good guys?

How could Disney fob off the whole "This is basically a warmed-over plot from the first movie" as something that HAD TO HAPPEN? Yeah, they really said that. They acknowledged SW7 was remake of SW4 and they said they had to go over some familiar ground to lay the foundation for the rest of the movies. Really? They spent a whole movie retelling the same plot, they admitted it, and they try to say it's a GOOD thing?

Why did Disney throw away the whole Star Wars canon? They had a gold mine of plots to make into movies and they chunked it all out the window. Do you have any idea how many fans would love to see the Thrawn trilogy on the big screen? What about Mara Jade? By the time SW7 is set in, she's supposed to have already tried to kill Luke, worked with Luke and finally married Luke. And what about the aliens who could "entech" the life energy of sentient beings, basically cramming people's minds into their machines to run them? Hey Disney, you're wasting a whole universe of possibilities here!

Okay the Thrawn bit deserves its own paragraph. There was one scene where Thrawn tricked the whole planet Coruscant into surrendering. He positioned cloaked ships just inside the boundary of the planetary shield, then he brought in uncloaked ships to threaten the planet. When they threw up their planetary shield he had his uncloaked ships (outside the shield) fire at the planet, then EXACTLY the instant their shots hit the shield, the cloaked ships fired shots in the same direction. The timing was impeccable and he tricked Coruscant into thinking he had some great weapon that could fire right through their shields.

Really? You're throwing all that away so you can remake SW 4 again? Has anybody at Disney even read the books?

Are the books really part of a legit universe tho?

Oh and haters gonna hate.

 

[Lynx]

Yes, the books were part of official Star Wars canon.

As Marvel Comics has so effectively demonstrated, if you ignore canon and rewrite the whole story whenever you please fans realize it is rather pointless trying to keep up with the story. Who cares? It'll probably be revised in the next "reboot" anyway.

 

[BruceWayne]

How on Earth did Rey, an uneducated in the force jedi, beat Kylo Ren, a sith lord(if that term still exists). They actually dismiss it in the film; that little egg alien lady who knows the force says that "the dark side was called many names: the Empire, the Sith. Now it is called the First Order." A lot of cracks in this series, but we must be captains, and captains go down with their ships!

Kylo Ren isn't a Sith Lord and he hasn't even finished his training under Snoke, so he wasn't that strong.

I really liked Episode VII. It was probably my 2nd favorite after Revenge of the Sith.

Personally, I would rather see them do a movie series on the Old Republic era. I find that way more interesting. Characters like Darth Nihilus, Revan, and Satele Shan would be awesome.

 

[Lynx]

Revan was done thoroughly (and done well) in KOTOR. Then Revan was really messed up in KOTOR 2.

Nihilus still has some story to tell. And they really should make a movie out of the KOTOR game.

 

[Lynx]

Actually there's one thing that bugged me about KOTOR. The ship your party gets is the Ebon Hawk. Hawk? Long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away, how did they know what a hawk is?

Had the same problem with the ship in the original movies, for that matter.

 

[MollyConnor]

Thought I would share this with y'all in case there's confusion.

 

[zeroturbulence]

JK.

Lol, Im probably biased against all the new movies because I saw the original three when they first came out... or maybe its because the new ones are just lacking.. I didn't feel any strong liking towards any of the new characters. They just seem like actors acting to me.

Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and whats his face and even C3PO and R2 were a lot more likeable and charming and I felt like "Man, these guys are cool. I want to be like Luke or Han Solo.. " I never felt that with any of the new movies. To me they felt like just another superhero movie like X-Men or something.

 

[cinder]

I think the biggest problem Episode 7 had was that they tried to make the villain the protagonist. Or at least he's the closest thing to a protagonist we got among the new characters. And his story is weak currently because they painted him as someone who wants to be evil for the sake of being evil. So his motivation isn't at all relatable. And yeah without a relatable protagonist, you don't have a very compelling story. Much better storyline for the whole new trilogy might be something along the lines of the new generation having lived in a galaxy with no central order (after the defeat of the empire and death of the emperor and darth vader) long for the days they here stories about when the galaxy was united (both under the old republic and the empire) and long to bring that unity back. Then have characters like Kylo find themselves justifying horrible things and slipping every closer to the dark side in an end justifies the means kind of mentality. That could be a good story setup, the new story as it stands now doesn't really feel set up, just feels like a remix of "essential star wars plot points".