Want marriage but no kids

[imfinallyfree]

Sorry in my haste to be off of this vile thread I left something out.

Girls like you aren't the only reason that He is ending the world also those that don't teach their children necessary moral principles are doing as much damage to the world with their amoral children as you are with your diseases and economic structural decay.

Ok NOW im done but God has yet to begin.

 

[Hellooo]

The only vile thing here is the venom you're spewing towards the original poster, imfinallyfree.

 

[Lynx]

imfinallyfree such vituperation is unwarranted and very misplaced. If you have an issue with a person or group of people you should badger them. Taking out your frustration on a random person on a forum is... well I can't say what exactly it is because I don't use those words anymore. >.>

 

[I_am_Canadian]

funny story that happened to me on Saturday. I was at work and one of the older regular customers came in and hes in his 70's or 80's and he asked how old I was and how come I wasn't married yet and if I was waiting for him I laughed and said no. Another guy made me a rose from a napkin when I came to his table to take his plate I think it was lets hit on becky day lol.

If
It's hit on Becky day, then can I sit here and quote the book of Song of Solomon all day? lol

 

[Miri]

Sorry in my haste to be off of this vile thread I left something out.

Girls like you aren't the only reason that He is ending the world also those that don't teach their children necessary moral principles are doing as much damage to the world with their amoral children as you are with your diseases and economic structural decay.

Ok NOW im done but God has yet to begin.

I dont understand what's vile about not wanting children.

You do understand that it is possible to have spiritual children even if you
don't have physical children.

 

[garet82]

well according to me, marry is a big decision n need big commitment. When we marry someone it means that we are ready for all including having baby or not. Coz GOD gives us freedom to choose its mean we must do it with responsibility.
when we are marry we cant say i dont want kids. who we are that we have authority to stop GOD's Power to give us kids or not.
so the point is for me, Marry is unity of two different people with all differences (mind, characters, view of live, ego, backgrounds, etc) become one in flesh n make beautiful rhyme of live to Glorified GOD.

 

[ROSSELLA]

Sorry in my haste to be off of this vile thread I left something out.

Girls like you aren't the only reason that He is ending the world also those that don't teach their children necessary moral principles are doing as much damage to the world with their amoral children as you are with your diseases and economic structural decay.

Ok NOW im done but God has yet to begin.

Just because someone doesn't see things your way doesn't make them vile. And just because someone doesn't want children doesn't mean that were they to have children they wouldn't love them and bring them up in the ways of the Lord. I personally don't want children. However, were I ever to marry, I would recognize that having sex with my husband may lead to children, and I would never neglect that child just because he/she wasn't planned. No where in the Bible does it say that everyone must have children. Indeed, some people in this world have lots of children and should have them taken away.

 

[Lynx]

Indeed, some people in this world have lots of children and should have them taken away.

Great, now that song "All that she wants is another baby / She's gone tomorrow" is going to be stuck in my head all day.

 

[DrawMeClose]

I don't see any problem. I know most married couples get along together without having any children.

 

[Stuey]

HistoryPrincess I can certainly understand your reservations about having children - having seen how much my married friends lives have changed, it certainly scares me.

I think it would be worth genuinely sitting down to see what the bible says about the purpose of marriage and children.

Very roughly.

- Marriage is good, sex is good within marriage.

- In marriage two people become "one flesh" - this seems to imply sex as well as children.

- Leading on from this (and many other places), children seem to be generally seen as the natural consequence of marriage.

- Children are seen as a blessing throughout the bible.

- The command to go forth and multiply is still there - although it needs to be seen in light of the new testament.

Essentially, I think it would be worth considering your motivations for marriage and not wanting children. I know you know this, but it isn't just to satisfy desire, but is a lifelong commitment to each other and children generally seem to be a positive and natural result of it. I would also ask why you don't want children? What are those desires that lead you to not want them? Are they good ones?

Personally, the idea of children scares me, but I see them as the natural result of marriage & I feel like my motivations for possibly not wanting them are quite selfish. While the bible doesn't expressly forbid not having children within marriage, I often don't think Christians consider their motivations surrounding contraception with a particularly objective mind.

 

[Lynx]

Stuey you are taking scripture out of context and you are putting somebody down for something that should be encouraged, especially considering current population statistics.

But none of that matters because it's so much fun to excoriate somebody...

 

[Wild]

Even though I want to be married, I don't want to have children. It's not that I don't like kids, I just don't think I have the patience or the energy to care for more than two people, myself and my spouse. I know people say "Oh, it's different when they're your kids." I don't think so. Still, some people view this as a sin or being selfish, even though the bible never says it's a sin to not have children if you can (then again, it doesn't say masturbation is a sin either). I have relatives in my family who are married without children (they didn't want them), and are perfectly happy with them. But if that's unbiblical, then I'm just in an impossible situation. I'm either going to have to marry and have kids and be exhausted and unhappy all the time, or I'm going to have to remain single with a ridiculously high sex drive I otherwise can't legally satisfy.

Smart woman...I would agree with you on that view. I want a life partner, but kids would just ruin that for me.

 

[Stuey]

Stuey you are taking scripture out of context and you are putting somebody down for something that should be encouraged, especially considering current population statistics.

But none of that matters because it's so much fun to excoriate somebody...

Could you please point out where I am excoriating her?

I am encouraging her to consider her motivations, which is something that all Christians should do.

I'd also be interested to know which part of scripture you think I have taken out of context?

 

[Lynx]

I already answered that question, so I am now reduced to quoting myself.

God told Adam and Noah to be fruitful and multiply. Notice both those times were when the people were going out into an empty world - right after creation and right after the flood.

If you take every command God said as applying to everybody all the time, you should also maintain that we take a wooden paddle and dig a hole in the ground for our excrement. It's in the Bible, God told His people to do it... Context, context, context. Being fruitful and multiplying was at two specific times, and both times it was for the same reason - the earth was completely empty and needed to be filled.

 

[Stuey]

Lynx this is what I posted before.

"- The command to go forth and multiply is still there - although it needs to be seen in light of the new testament. "

As I said, it needs to be viewed in light of the new testament.

Now of course we don't have to follow every law in the old testament, but Jesus doesn't negate the law - he fulfils it. It is also worth noting that the passage I referred to is not in the Law - it is in the creation story. While we aren't commanded to go forth and multiply in the same way as Adam and Eve - I think the principles about marriage still apply generally, though of course through Jesus.

If we are to choose not to have children in marriage, it really should be thought through and with a careful consideration of motivations - they should be Godly motivations.

 

[Lynx]

In all things we should consider our motivations.

The reason I objected to your initial post in this thread was it sounded as though you were calling the OP selfish for not wanting to have children. But this medium is text-based and tone of voice does not carry through. Perhaps you did not mean to imply what I thought I saw in your first post.