My Old Job is Lying Thru Their Teeth About Me to Unemployment -- What can I do?

[ManiaStar]

So frustrating!!

I got fired on March 31 due to not getting my leave of absence papers in on time. But, I couldn't because I'm on Medicaid and couldn't get an appointment with an orthopedic til April 17 which I told the supervisors and personnel at my job. I spoke to both my assistant manager and personnel on several occasions and even went into work to speak with both my manager and personnel but the lady in personnel wasn't there that day, so I only spoke w/ my manager.

I had an appointment with the unemployment agency on Monday. They told me initially that my job fired me because I didn't call out for 2 weeks straight and was a no call no show for 14 days so they had no other thing to do then fire me and calling it misconduct.

Today, the unemployment agent called me again saying they spoke to my job's agent and apparently my personnel manager is stating she has no recollection of me ever calling her or my manager and speaking with any of them about me.

However, she is stating that they called me a few times and spoke with me and I told them that I can work, so they put me on the schedule yet I never showed up.

That's all complete BS. The only time anyone called me from work was my assistant manager. She called me the Monday after my accident wanting to know what was going on. That was when I started calling them each week to let them know what was going on. Also, I had called out of work every single day from the day of my accident until I was fired.

My job records all phone conversations so they should have all the recordings on file from when I spoke to them and from when they state they called me which they never did except for my manager.

I feel like unemployment is going to take my jobs side because there's no proof. There's my word against theirs. And why take my word when they could easily take my jobs word so they won't have to pay me money.

The unemployment agent is again going to call the agent who is going to again speak with the necessary parties at my former job to get more lies from them.

I'm so angry because I had done everything right. I followed all protocols when it came to my injury and informing the right people. I just couldn't get the leave of absence papers signed because I couldn't see an orthopedic til over a month AFTER my initial injury!!!

I am at a loss. I haven't gotten paid since Feb and I'm just trying to get Some funds into my account from when I got fired. I Should've been able to collect money from leave of absence but now I don't get that money and am still trying to fight for unemployment money and nothing is working!!!

Is there anything I can do besides getting a lawyer? I don't have the money to pay for a lawyer. I don't care to get my job back at that company because of how wrong their treating me right now and lying about everything. I Just want what I deserve to get for my injuries and being forced out of work.

 

[tourist]

From your previous post you said that you got injured in a skiing accident so I'm not sure why your former employer would be liable for your injuries. A company can only hold a job for so long. At the time of your accident did you file for short-term disability with your company? Based on what you have written I don't feel that you will win your unemployment case. It might be best to just forgot about it and start applying for your next job if you are recovered enough to work. The company did not force you out of work, your skiing injury did. I know that this whole ordeal has been frustrating for you but such is life at times. Perhaps you might consider a safer sport to participate in during your off time.

 

[ManiaStar]

From your previous post you said that you got injured in a skiing accident so I'm not sure why your former employer would be liable for your injuries. A company can only hold a job for so long. At the time of your accident did you file for short-term disability with your company? Based on what you have written I don't feel that you will win your unemployment case. It might be best to just forgot about it and start applying for your next job if you are recovered enough to work. The company did not force you out of work, your skiing injury did. I know that this whole ordeal has been frustrating for you but such is life at times. Perhaps you might consider a safer sport to participate in during your off time.

I'm not saying their liable for my injuries but, I called them and explained to them that I was having a hard time getting an appointment with an orthopedic who would need to sign those papers. My job is an extra large company that hasn't been hiring people and in my department alone, lost about 6 people in a very short amount of time and they never even replaced those people. Even with firing me, I re-visited them and talked with my manager and she said that work is so much harder now because they're not allowing anyone else to be hired in that area so now they are down 7 people. I filed for short term disability and had to appeal their claim bc they didn't want to approve me for that either.

I am not allowed to start applying for jobs yet until I regain full mobility of my shoulder and my leg/foot.

 

[tourist]

I'm not saying their liable for my injuries but, I called them and explained to them that I was having a hard time getting an appointment with an orthopedic who would need to sign those papers. My job is an extra large company that hasn't been hiring people and in my department alone, lost about 6 people in a very short amount of time and they never even replaced those people. Even with firing me, I re-visited them and talked with my manager and she said that work is so much harder now because they're not allowing anyone else to be hired in that area so now they are down 7 people. I filed for short term disability and had to appeal their claim bc they didn't want to approve me for that either.

I am not allowed to start applying for jobs yet until I regain full mobility of my shoulder and my leg/foot.

I can't understand your company's rationale for denying you short term disability as you were obviously hurt. It is a shame that a hospital could not verify your injury and give an estimate of your return at the time you were initially treated for your injury. It's a common practice for companies to freeze hiring for a period of time trying to get more work for less. It is really hard out there in the working world as you well know for yourself. I wish you well in your recovery and for you to obtain an even better position once your healing is complete.

 

[slave]

So, calm down and rest in Christ and be in prayer and expectant that this will work out one way or another. Ask the network of people again and just sit with them calmly and forgivingly and get step-by-step instructions that will reinstate you, instead of producing your factual disgust as a lawyer building a case, throw yourself into the hands of the person you are with but be quietly expectant. Keep pinning down a absolute concrete person or thing to do to improve yourself. And as you pray God will open up doors in you and in the world, establishing your steps.

The word “frustrate” means; To prevent from accomplishing a purpose or fulfilling a desire. Let’s face it, frustration can be…well…frustrating. No one likes to be prevented from accomplishing a purpose. And the "Right & Wrong" thing can be over-whelming. None of us want to be prevented from fulfilling a desire. Our desires, our purpose help define who we are and when we cannot achieve them we feel empty, hurt and broken. In short, frustration can break our hearts.

We don’t like pain, we don’t like broken hearts and often we wonder why God would even allow such pain into our lives if he loves us. But the fact is that God is not as concerned about your comfort as much as he is concerned about our character. And our character is best shaped through the painful circumstances of life.

C.S. Lewis once said that “God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks to us in our conscience, but shouts in our pains: It is His megaphone to rouse a deaf world.” God loves us so much that he is willing to allow us to endure the pain of a broken heart in order that we might become more than we currently are.

Our pain is not our own. Our broken hearts are not about us. We have a tendency to believe that our pain is our own, that it’s about us. But if we know Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior then our pain is not our own.

Oswald Chambers’ remarks: “There is no such thing as a private life for a man or woman who is brought into fellowship with Jesus Christ’s sufferings. God breaks up the private life of His saints and makes it a thoroughfare for the world on the one hand and for Himself on the other”

The Apostle Paul, in the book of first Corinthians states it this way,

”You do not belong to yourself”

I Corinthians 6:19b (NLT)

Your pain is not your own. God uses our pain, our broken hearts, for the good of others. He uses our pain so that we may be a part of his plan for redeeming this fallen world. The pain of disappointment is not yours alone. Moses discovered that. The pain of abandonment is not yours alone. Joseph discovered that. And the pain of frustration is not yours alone either. David discovered that truth. So I must ask where you are in the journey with Jesus?

Prayer that is not an effort of the will is unrecognized by God. "If ye abide in Me, and My Words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you," said Jesus. That does not mean ask anything you like, but ask what you will. What are you actively willing? Ask for that. We shall find that we ask very few things. We have to pray with our eyes on God, not on the difficulties.

I will and have prayed already for you. And if I have any practical tips I will share them as I can...but my will is the will of my Father as well. Seek God for He has you right where He has allowed you to be for the moment...Let His Supernatural wisdom guide you and teach you in all of this difficulty, and He will establish your steps.

 

[cinder]

Practical advice: you should be able to prove all of your calling in with your phone records, if you called from your mobile it might still be in the call log, if you get a monthly bill check to see if it's itemized as to the numbers you called and for how long. If neither of those works, it's worth calling your phone service provider to request the records. Records for your number should be available to you, and would go a long way towards proving that you did call and if it comes to it, having some legal position to get company recordings of those phone calls released.

I would also recommend talking to your manager or whoever it was you were updating on your condition and seeing if that person would talk to the unemployment office directly. It's possible, especially in a large organization, that the fact that you were consistently calling in wasn't noticed by personnel or relayed to them, so I'd check to see if you can get someone else in the company to confirm your story, both with unemployment and with the personnel office ( and if I were feeling a bit conspiracy theorist I might set up to record that phone call so if people were reluctant to do so because the company had informed them that they were intentionally cheating you, then you'd have something to substantiate that that is happening as well).

I don't know that any of this can move the bureaucracy of you didn't get your forms in in a timely manner, but those are things I'd try to remedy the misinformation in my unemployment case.