How much are you willing to sacrifice? Music......

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Apr 24, 2009
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I once dated this girl who had had a very rough past and who deliberately stood against "worldly music"
She would never listen to anything secular, nothing at all! Only christian music and Jazz. For example, one of the things that really disappointed her about me, which she would tell me much later, once it was all over, was the fact that I had showed interest in going to one of Michael Jackson's this is it concerts.
Now, I'm careful with the little music I listen to, but to say that listening to anything not specifically christian (as if there weren't dozens of "christian" bands, whose real motives for singing I would question) is a sin seems over exagerating for me.
But to answer the questions at hand, YES, after all, I would be willing to sacrifice the music I listen to for that special someone (though that doesn't mean I may had one of MJs records hidden under the bed, lol)
How about you? Be honest!
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I once had a guy i dated ask me to ''sacrifice'' my best friend of 15 years just because he didnt like her.

I think you should only ever ask the other person to give up something is if its harmful to their health. Like if you dated someone that smoked or drank more than they should. Then yes ask away, but to say stop listning to that music or im not gonna be with you anymore. I would have to say, then bye bye..

It may start with hey give up your music or give up this t.v. show or t.v. in general and you do it, where does it stop. What if that person keeps saying give this up or give that up. Yeah i just think its a bad road to go down when you start doin stuff like that.
 
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royalty86

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I don't think you should try to force anybody to give up anything. And if you're in a relationship you shouldn't do it unless, like NodMyHeadLikeYeah said, it's harmful to their health. People have to make their own choices, ya know.

I personally only listen to Christian music, but that's just my choice. I struggled with it for a long time because like so many other people, I love music. For the longest I listened to all kinds. But recently (and I mean like a few weeks ago recently) I decided I was done with all this other music and threw away all my cd's that weren't Christian. But like I said, it was my choice, nobody was forcing me or trying to force me. I don't think I would compromise on something unless I felt like it was a must. If I were to be with someone in the future who listened to secular music, I wouldn't try to make them stop because they have to do that on their own. Otherwise they might end up resenting me or something like that in the future. And I wouldn't start listening to secular music if they asked me. Just because it's not in me anymore. So all in all, I think the person has to make their own choices. It's not sincere when they are feeling forced to do it.
 
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lil-rush

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I use to be really strict about only listening to "Christian" music, because that was the way I was raised, but lately I've been listening to secular stuff. I try to avoid the straight-up sinful stuff all about drugs, sex, God-bashing, etc, but sometimes when you listen to a particular artist long enough that type of stuff will come up. (Dave Matthew, for example, is in general a pretty decent artist, but he has some iffy songs out there)

If someone asked me to give up music in order to be in a relationship with him, I would have to question his motives. Was he asking because he was genuinely concerned for me, or was he doing it for selfish reasons?
 
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iservechrist24

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I can't say I was asked to make a sacrifice. But when God pushes you into a direction to make a decision on Him or a sinful and unhealthy relationship, you do it. Granted, I miss her. But in the long run, the relationship was just not health and didn't have a foundation in Christ. So the sacrifice for me was very beneficial, even though it was painful.

As far as secular music goes, I honestly think that there are only a handful of songs out there that are secular and that are actually positive. The rest are all about "woe is me" or drugs or sex or whatever else. So I generally try to stick to Christian rock, contemporary and Christian Rap (which by the way is slowly becoming more popular than secular.)
 

DinoDillinger

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I use to be really strict about only listening to "Christian" music, because that was the way I was raised, but lately I've been listening to secular stuff. I try to avoid the straight-up sinful stuff all about drugs, sex, God-bashing, etc, but sometimes when you listen to a particular artist long enough that type of stuff will come up. (Dave Matthew, for example, is in general a pretty decent artist, but he has some iffy songs out there)

If someone asked me to give up music in order to be in a relationship with him, I would have to question his motives. Was he asking because he was genuinely concerned for me, or was he doing it for selfish reasons?
What would selfish reasons be for that? Would not wanting to hear secular music because they believed it was spiritually unhealthy for them be selfish?
 

seoulsearch

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Music is a hard topic for me as well. I've always loved "club"-type music--Madonna, Lady Gaga, Rihanna... pretty much the worst of the worst when it came to secular stuff!!! There's something about the beat that just gets me moving and motivated, unfortunately. But, for the past several years, I've fought with trying to shut out all of this type of music on my own (not because someone asked me to) because obviously, it's not healthy at all.

I agree with Nod--I'm not perfect by any means but I personally would feel that if someone asked me to "sacrifice" something for him that wasn't sinful, causing me harm, and had been in my life a long time, such as she cited, a true and loyal friend of many years, forget it! I wouldn't think of that as being someone who truly cares about you, but maybe that's just me. If he didn't like my friends... I don't see how we could have a relationship that would work very well...

But as for music and so forth--I would listen to his concerns and opinions, but seeing as I barely listen to music as it is anymore (most Christian music puts me to sleep, and as someone said, just because someone claims to be a Christian artist doesn't mean their music is all positive), I'm not sure what else I can cut out.

One of my pastors has said not all secular music is bad. One of her very favorite songs that she would play during some of her presentations and conferences was R. Kelly's "I Believe I Can Fly." She went through a rough time and said this song helped her get through it all.

Keep in mind, R. Kelly is, of course, the artist who also sings songs like "Bump'N'Grind", and was brought up for charges of child pornography and having sex with a minor.

I was here on CC a few weeks ago and was kind of shocked to hear someone singing Lady Gaga's "Poker Face" in You Sing. For anyone who hadn't heard, in a televised interview, Lady G states that the premise of this song is when she would be having sex with a boyfriend but fantasizing about women instead of him.

There are times when I really do think it depends on the song, and while a song like this, it would seem, is obviously against what we believe in as Christians, I don't think all secular music is bad and can be used just as much by God to touch people's hearts and lives as Christian music.
 
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Matthew

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I think asking someone to give up secualr music is going too far and I wouldn't even consider it, I thkink people who are that strict and try to impose their standards on others have a larger problem........maybe a fragile faith so they try and keep anything not overtly christian at arms length or maybe it's just a selfish immaturity that they want what they want and refuse to compromise.

For me secualr music isn't bad at all, I don't like songs with bad language or sexual content etc...popular music is littered with that kind of thing, secualr music is a far broader group.

One of my favourite singers is a christian but his music is secular, the songs content in many instances talks about good things that would certainly not be an issue for any christian.
 
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I don't think I could ask someone to give up certain types of music, or TV shows, movies or books. If they are a Christian, they have the Holy Spirit to convict them and encourage them to make the right decision. I hardly ever listen anymore, but I do listen to some secular music. When I do, I look for the ones that are uplifting and inspirational, rather than about drugs/money/sex - none of those songs ever appealed to me. If you're both adults (or even teens), then you're old enough to make your own decisions and someone pressuring you to give something up will only make you feel like you're being parented - not good for a relationship. There are types of music that I wouldn't listen to, but I know others who do. And, there are books out there that I feel led to stay away from, but many of my Christian friends read and love; I don't judge them for it, or criticize, because I know the Holy Spirit does brings conviction to each of us, and I know that there are things that I have an interest in (and I have prayed about, so I've already had the discussion with God over them!), that would get eyebrow-raises from people I know. But, I made the decision on my own, and it is a decision that I made after I sought God. So, to each his/her own. No, I would not ask someone to give something up because it wasn't "Christian". I watch movies that are secular,watch TV shows that are secular, read books that are secular, and listen to music that is secular. The question I ask myself does, "Does this dishonor God?" I had music that I had gotten years before I accepted Christ that I did toss out a while back, because when I asked that question, the answer was "Yes." But I have other secular music that stayed. Same with movies, TV, and books.

There are a lot of things that the Bible doesn't specifically tell us we shouldn't do, which is why seeking God and listening to the Holy Spirit is so important. I had a friend once mention that perhaps the Bible is silent on certain issues just so that we would learn to use discernment and to seek God on such matters. It's another factor of spiritual maturity. Think about it. When we are young, our parents make decisions for us - what we're going to wear, what we're going to eat, how we manage our time. We know what to do, because we're told what to do. But, as we grow and mature, we have to begin to make these decisions for ourselves, and learn how to make the right ones, understanding that there are consequences when we make the wrong decision.

I wouldn't say that wanting someone to make changes in the music they listen to is necessarily selfish, as I have noticed that those Christians out there who do criticize the tastes of others really do have their best interests at heart - they do believe that such music or other forms of entertainment are sinful. And, of course, GIGO (garbage in, garbage out) - what we take in affects us as people, so we must be careful not to feed ourselves garbage from the world. But, as I said above, even though they are well-meaning, it comes across as judgmental and parental, which will only serve to make people resistant to what is being said anyway; we tend to become defensive when someone is trying to make decisions for us, when we are quite capable of making them ourselves.

I make my choices, and do my best to let the Holy Spirit guide me. And, for those who are into things that I wouldn't necessarily be into, I pray that God will guide them as well. We're all going to disagree on things, whether it's forms of entertainment, or whether we should celebrate Christmas and eat meat. I point people to Romans 14 (which discusses eating meat and celebrating certain days, lol - so those weren't random examples I threw out there) when something like this comes up. In the end, it is not the opinion of other people that matter, it is the opinion of God that matters.
 
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karuna

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For example, one of the things that really disappointed her about me, which she would tell me much later, once it was all over, was the fact that I had showed interest in going to one of Michael Jackson's this is it concerts.
Disapproval is a good way to get power over someone else. Don't underestimate the willingness of apparently holy people to use these sorts of things to control you or stab you in the back.

For example (clears her throat): I really don't think you should have written this post. You're more concerned with what a girl thinks than what God thinks. You want to sacrifice things for her? God is the only proper recipient of sacrifice. I'm disappointed in you. You should probably not write posts until you check with me first.

Blah, blah, blah. It's easy to do, it makes me look like a wise saint, and it makes you look like the clueless sinner in need of my constant guidance. Don't buy it - if a person has your best interests in mind, they will be sympathetic and kind.

But to answer the questions at hand, YES, after all, I would be willing to sacrifice the music I listen to for that special someone (though that doesn't mean I may had one of MJs records hidden under the bed, lol) How about you? Be honest!
I've given up a lot of things for time my husband, but not because he was disappointed in me. When I was single I had a lot of time to fill up, so I had a lot of pretty useless hobbies to which I was addicted. I gave them up because I wanted to spend more of my time and energy with him. I made a positive change out of love, not shame, and certainly not out of any demands.
 
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lil-rush

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What would selfish reasons be for that? Would not wanting to hear secular music because they believed it was spiritually unhealthy for them be selfish?
Well I was thinking along the lines of if he thought it was bad for his image to have a wife that listened to secular music, and so asked me to get rid of it. Or if he had some sort of ideal of how he wants his "perfect wife" to be, that would be selfish.

If he found the music to be spiritually unhealthy for him, I would most probably either get rid of it or never play it around him.
 
Apr 24, 2009
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Thanks everyone for your responses, I get the feeling that most people here would disagree with giving up something you enjoy just cause the other persons requests it, as long as it's not sinful and as long as it's not damaging the relationship. In the case of the girl I mentioned, certain secular music brought to her mind terrible memories of her past, in which case wanting for me to not listen to such music was more of a personal issue rather than wanting me to be more holy. Your responses got me thinking about the true nature of asking someone else to give up what they like, I'll reconsider the conclusion I set forth at the end of the post, thanks everyone.
 
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DreaMtz123

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when was the Sacrifice done?where??how?? who did it??? let us not forget about that. is it really a much of a "sacrifice" to give up secular music?
now lets put it this way.
In determining whether or not to listen to secular music, there are three primary factors to consider:
1) the purpose of music,
2) the style of music, and
3) the content of the lyrics.
now ask yurself.. yu i listen to secular music?? ;)