If you were one of the five positions in the church, which would you be?

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WineRose

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Your kinda mismatching title and OP kinda have me confused about what you're asking of me, so I'll give two different answers:

My actual position: First of all, I'm 15, so I can't work in the church, or pretty much anywhere yet. Secondly, in the not-digital world, I'm almost a pure loner (except to my family and close friends), and I can't really predict the future, soooo... :/

My preferred position: Prophet. I can have the cool ability of seeing the future, and I don't have to socialise as much as I'd have to in the other options.
 

Lynx

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I'd have to say none of the above. I'm a preacher, but not a pastor. I'm a minister, one who serves. Occasionally I preach, but not very often. I drive the church bus, vacuum the carpet, clean up after church dinners, sing on stage, maintain the sound booth (somebody else runs it during service) and generally do whatever needs to be done.

My position in the church is Flunky. :cool: Or Henchman.
 

mailmandan

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I'm more of an Evangelist.
 

cinder

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Power point girl, or pew warmer (well except so many churches don't have pew's anymore). I sometimes also serve as the deromanticizing and deoverspiritualizing reality check.
 

Oncefallen

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Which one are you? APOSTLES, PROPHETS, EVANGELISTS, PASTORS, TEACHERS
I would argue that of the five you listed:

A) only four of them exist in the modern church since an Apostle in the first century was one who had (with the exception of Paul) been with Christ during His earthly ministry. (No, I have no intent of debating this so let's not go there.)

B) the majority of Christians fall into none of the remaining four as far as gifting goes.

Most of us go about our lives touching people with the love of Christ (at least we should be) without a specific calling in any of the four main ministry arenas. We give our offerings and serve in all manner of capacities within our congregations ranging from ushering to setup and cleanup to audio video to worship team, etc.
 

Dino246

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I would argue that of the five you listed:

A) only four of them exist in the modern church since an Apostle in the first century was one who had (with the exception of Paul) been with Christ during His earthly ministry. (No, I have no intent of debating this so let's not go there.)

B) the majority of Christians fall into none of the remaining four as far as gifting goes.

Most of us go about our lives touching people with the love of Christ (at least we should be) without a specific calling in any of the four main ministry arenas. We give our offerings and serve in all manner of capacities within our congregations ranging from ushering to setup and cleanup to audio video to worship team, etc.
Well said. "For God has given some to be...." :)
 
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In very dedicated ministries, I was surprised at how many people fit into the teachers category. I watched people finish washing the dishes or vaccuuming the carpet, then sit down and teach a bible study that made you realize they'd been intently studying for years, though without an important position in the church.


I would argue that of the five you listed:

A) only four of them exist in the modern church since an Apostle in the first century was one who had (with the exception of Paul) been with Christ during His earthly ministry. (No, I have no intent of debating this so let's not go there.)

B) the majority of Christians fall into none of the remaining four as far as gifting goes.

Most of us go about our lives touching people with the love of Christ (at least we should be) without a specific calling in any of the four main ministry arenas. We give our offerings and serve in all manner of capacities within our congregations ranging from ushering to setup and cleanup to audio video to worship team, etc.
 
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Zi

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I agree. And know of modern day Apostles. Just because man doesn't count them in the number, it doesn't mean they are no longer here .. I would argue( but not be willing to debate even though I say I'd argue) that in the NT there are more Apostles than most realize.
In very dedicated ministries, I was surprised at how many people fit into the teachers category. I watched people finish washing the dishes or vaccuuming the carpet, then sit down and teach a bible study that made you realize they'd been intently studying for years, though without an important position in the church.
 
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Miri

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#12
We had a sermon recently which touched on
talants and gifts. It suggested if you are passionate
about something then it could be your gift.

So if you are passionate about art, worship, music
maybe you should focus on song writing, become a
musican in the church etc.

If you are passionate about prayer, then maybe
you should lead the prayer team. If you are naturally
inclined into sharing the gospel then maybe that maybe
evangelism is for you.

If you like things done right then maybe admin.

If you feel empathy for others and feel compelled
to offer assistance, then maybe counselling or
adult ministry.

If you are the first to volunteer for washing up,
helping in the coffee bar, stacking chairs etc. Maybe
helper is your gift.
 

Lynx

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I'm reminded of my grandmother. She talks a good line about being useless, especially when she gets tired easily and can't do like she used to. But she's a great ambassador. When we have visitors she has this wonderful way of quietly sitting down beside them and striking up a conversation in just the most natural way, and she and the visitors just talk away like they have been old friends since high school.

Ain't one of the official five positions listed so I have no idea where to vote her in the church. But we couldn't do without her.
 
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Miri

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I'm reminded of my grandmother. She talks a good line about being useless, especially when she gets tired easily and can't do like she used to. But she's a great ambassador. When we have visitors she has this wonderful way of quietly sitting down beside them and striking up a conversation in just the most natural way, and she and the visitors just talk away like they have been old friends since high school.

Ain't one of the official five positions listed so I have no idea where to vote her in the church. But we couldn't do without her.

There are many roles in the church, but people get fixated on the leadership
roles. Not everyone has the gift of leadership.


1 Timothy 3:2 NKJV
[2] A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate,
sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach;


1 Timothy 3:8 NKJV
[8] Likewise deacons must be reverent, not double-tongued, not given to much
wine, not greedy for money,


Romans 12:5-8 NKJV
[5] so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one
another. [6] Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to
us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our
faith; [7] or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches,
in teaching; [8] he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality;
he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness.




Ephesians 4:11 NKJV
[11] And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists,
and some pastors and teachers,



1 Corinthians 12:4-11 NKJV
[4] There are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit. [5] There are differences
of ministries, but the same Lord. [6] And there are diversities of activities, but
it is the same God who works all in all. [7] But the manifestation of the Spirit is
given to each one for the profit of all: [8] for to one is given the word of wisdom
through the Spirit, to another the word of knowledge through the same
Spirit, [9] to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healings by
the same Spirit, [10] to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy,
to another discerning of spirits, to another different kinds of tongues, to
another the interpretation of tongues. [11] But one and the same Spirit works
all these things, distributing to each one individually as He wills.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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Janitor, the guy who makes coffee, the monkey mowing the lawn and junk.
 

Lynx

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Janitor, the guy who makes coffee, the monkey mowing the lawn and junk.
Ugh. Don't mention mowing. Last Saturday I was running the weed-eater around stuff at church and I was reminded why I just spray weed killer around stuff at home. No matter what angle you use, the weed-eater WILL throw stuff back in your face.
 
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toinena

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My second cousin is a vicar in the Lutheran church. He got two goats to do the mowing. I don't belong to the state church anymore, but the goats was a brilliant idea.
Ugh. Don't mention mowing. Last Saturday I was running the weed-eater around stuff at church and I was reminded why I just spray weed killer around stuff at home. No matter what angle you use, the weed-eater WILL throw stuff back in your face.
 

Oncefallen

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Ugh. Don't mention mowing. Last Saturday I was running the weed-eater around stuff at church and I was reminded why I just spray weed killer around stuff at home. No matter what angle you use, the weed-eater WILL throw stuff back in your face.
Which is why manufacturer's recommended safety gear would include one of these

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Lynx

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Yeah that would have been nice Oncefallen. But uncle Fred asked me to do the weed-eating while he did the mowing and he didn't have one of them fancy faceplates.