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I was told once that the reason women have smaller feet than men, is so that they can get closer to the kitchen sink when washing dishes....... So washing dishes must be a woman thing?? 
I am the "little woman" compared to him, but I still wear a 9.5!
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It can't have to do with the work that they're doing. I was shoveling manure in our barn one time, while entertaining a house guest. (not my fav way of entertaining but I thought it was better than leaving her by herself in the house!) As we were walking back to the house, trying to outstrip the smell, me only thinking about changing back into house clothes, she says: "I've learned a lot from staying with your family. You and your sisters are all very elegant. Very feminine." So I have no idea what she saw...but apparently you can be doing the hardest, dirtiest work around and still be elegant and feminine. I would guess you could be doing "women's work" and still be masculine too. I think it has to do with the spirit...but that's as far as my deductions have gone
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We consider ourselves the same thing -- protector/provider. It's just we do it differently.
We Mama-Bear all over anyone who musses with our family. (Protector.)
We make sure it's a nice house to come home to and a comfortable place to live. (Provider.)
And, when hubby got hurt and couldn't work, immediately I rushed out to provide money to our income. I also know it bothered him that he couldn't, but he wasn't stuck on that old concept that men must earn the bigger chunk. (Sadly, he could have been that type, and still have nothing to worry about. I never did make more than he did, unless I was employed, but he wasn't.) And, as God seems to do in our lives, there became a time when I couldn't work, and he was back to carrying that burden.
And, God being God, and tending to see how far he can take us before realizing he alone is our provider, it then happened that neither one of us could work. Still can't.
We Mama-Bear all over anyone who musses with our family. (Protector.)
We make sure it's a nice house to come home to and a comfortable place to live. (Provider.)
And, when hubby got hurt and couldn't work, immediately I rushed out to provide money to our income. I also know it bothered him that he couldn't, but he wasn't stuck on that old concept that men must earn the bigger chunk. (Sadly, he could have been that type, and still have nothing to worry about. I never did make more than he did, unless I was employed, but he wasn't.) And, as God seems to do in our lives, there became a time when I couldn't work, and he was back to carrying that burden.
And, God being God, and tending to see how far he can take us before realizing he alone is our provider, it then happened that neither one of us could work. Still can't.
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Marry "a cheap date."
I'm chuckling, but it's also true. While dating, you find out what the other's dreams are. Hubby's first wife wanted everything. I wanted him. I didn't care if we lived in a hovel or a castle. Well, truthfully, that's wrong. Don't want to live in a castle or mansion because all I see is how much cleaning I'd have to do.
But that was the beginning of realizing I'm a cheap date. If she expects caviar and candlelight, assume that doesn't disappear at marriage. If a can of tuna fish and some noodles works as a date, it works as a life style.
A couple of weeks ago, we went together for some doctor appointments, but lunch hit in between. We know the cafe in that hospital. BIG sandwiches. So I asked him if we could split one. Perfect for him too.
37 years later, and lunch for two was under $8. GOOD deal! lol
I'm chuckling, but it's also true. While dating, you find out what the other's dreams are. Hubby's first wife wanted everything. I wanted him. I didn't care if we lived in a hovel or a castle. Well, truthfully, that's wrong. Don't want to live in a castle or mansion because all I see is how much cleaning I'd have to do.
But that was the beginning of realizing I'm a cheap date. If she expects caviar and candlelight, assume that doesn't disappear at marriage. If a can of tuna fish and some noodles works as a date, it works as a life style.
A couple of weeks ago, we went together for some doctor appointments, but lunch hit in between. We know the cafe in that hospital. BIG sandwiches. So I asked him if we could split one. Perfect for him too.
37 years later, and lunch for two was under $8. GOOD deal! lol
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Boy, really wasn't in this for a fight. There is a mind set needed to work with either gender, or both genders. Would you be this heated, if we were talking about a man teaching kindergarten, and yet had to face the teacher's lounge every day? Traditionally, kindergarten is taught by women. Absolutely nothing wrong with men teaching it too. (Also absolutely nothing wrong with women guards.) And, I can see the teacher's lounge raising an eyebrow with the new guy. But, if you don't have the mind set to get along with co-workers because of gender, it's probably not a good career choice. Or, you're going to have to learn fast how to.
It really isn't that hard to get co-workers to accept the obvious. Considering what guards have to do every day, those two women guards had better learned to get along with most of their co-workers quickly. And, yeah, not every guy is ever going to accept a women as a co-worker, and yet, the majority will, as soon as they figure out the woman can do the same job and isn't out to prove they are better. Truthfully, any time you're out to prove you're better, it's going to cause problems with co-workers.
It really isn't that hard to get co-workers to accept the obvious. Considering what guards have to do every day, those two women guards had better learned to get along with most of their co-workers quickly. And, yeah, not every guy is ever going to accept a women as a co-worker, and yet, the majority will, as soon as they figure out the woman can do the same job and isn't out to prove they are better. Truthfully, any time you're out to prove you're better, it's going to cause problems with co-workers.
Hi Lynn,
I just wanted to clarify.
Of course I wasn't saying that men or woman "should" be anything... except what God has called them to be, of course.
The two women in the article did not work together--they worked at completely different stations, and they were not complaining at all or trying to prove themselves as being better, but rather, just stating the facts of the job. They just happened to be the two women that the article chose to quote, and they were not co-workers with each other. The work itself was rather isolating--hours of driving alone in rugged, barren terrain, knowing that at any minute you could be ambushed and shot. They actually had very little contact with co-workers, but were talking about what it was like when they did.
Both of these women did not have families of their own and seemed to be the kind of people who were made, or "called" for that type of job, and their basic message was, "If you like talking to other women or being treated gently, this ain't the job for you--move right along."
I also certainly wasn't saying that women being in the field of science is anything new either--I was just making the observation that it seems to be much more encouraged than it used to be (at the time, I was thinking of an organization started by a celebrity--model Karlie Kloss--that recruits and encourages young girls to try and develop their skills in coding.)
I guess I'm a bit different too in that I was raised in a VERY traditional household (husband provided; wife was the homemaker) but turned out to be a bit nontraditional myself, though I admit that it wasn't exactly due to my own choice. Once the husband left, I had to take on all the things he used to do along with all my regular chores (and of course, one doesn't need to be specifically divorced, single, or widowed to know that modern life just seems to require that many of us be a little bit of everything.)
I remember when a (female) friend came over to help me pack all my things before moving, and because we didn't have a guy to help us at the time, whenever she said there was a particularly heavy box, I just moved it myself. I can tell the effects of time, though, lol--my lifting capacity isn't quite the same as when I was in my 20's!
I do agree with the posts made that said that we are all designed for different things. Some women are meant to be in "tough jobs"; some men are meant to be stay-at-home dads; some people are designed to be provided for by someone else.
We all have a role, and of course, in the end, all that matters is what God calls us to to and whether or not we decide to obey His calling.
I just wanted to clarify.
Of course I wasn't saying that men or woman "should" be anything... except what God has called them to be, of course.
The two women in the article did not work together--they worked at completely different stations, and they were not complaining at all or trying to prove themselves as being better, but rather, just stating the facts of the job. They just happened to be the two women that the article chose to quote, and they were not co-workers with each other. The work itself was rather isolating--hours of driving alone in rugged, barren terrain, knowing that at any minute you could be ambushed and shot. They actually had very little contact with co-workers, but were talking about what it was like when they did.
Both of these women did not have families of their own and seemed to be the kind of people who were made, or "called" for that type of job, and their basic message was, "If you like talking to other women or being treated gently, this ain't the job for you--move right along."
I also certainly wasn't saying that women being in the field of science is anything new either--I was just making the observation that it seems to be much more encouraged than it used to be (at the time, I was thinking of an organization started by a celebrity--model Karlie Kloss--that recruits and encourages young girls to try and develop their skills in coding.)
I guess I'm a bit different too in that I was raised in a VERY traditional household (husband provided; wife was the homemaker) but turned out to be a bit nontraditional myself, though I admit that it wasn't exactly due to my own choice. Once the husband left, I had to take on all the things he used to do along with all my regular chores (and of course, one doesn't need to be specifically divorced, single, or widowed to know that modern life just seems to require that many of us be a little bit of everything.)
I remember when a (female) friend came over to help me pack all my things before moving, and because we didn't have a guy to help us at the time, whenever she said there was a particularly heavy box, I just moved it myself. I can tell the effects of time, though, lol--my lifting capacity isn't quite the same as when I was in my 20's!
I do agree with the posts made that said that we are all designed for different things. Some women are meant to be in "tough jobs"; some men are meant to be stay-at-home dads; some people are designed to be provided for by someone else.
We all have a role, and of course, in the end, all that matters is what God calls us to to and whether or not we decide to obey His calling.
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Lots of talk about providing/being provided for...I feel slightly nervous sharing this but here goes
I like that my husband provides for me. I like getting to be at home with the kids, and I like that I don’t have to have the stress of working a job and maintaining our home and raising kids and cats and chickens.
I spend a lot of time learning new skills because I want to be useful and busy and not a burden to my husband.
That all being said, when my daughter starts school this fall, I will get a job, and probably go back to school. Because as Kim pointed out, what if my husband gets sick, or hurt, or dies? Much as I enjoy being able to stay home, I also feel responsible for being capable of returning the favor should the need arise, and also again, just doing whatever is in my power to be a help and not a hindrance.
I like that my husband provides for me. I like getting to be at home with the kids, and I like that I don’t have to have the stress of working a job and maintaining our home and raising kids and cats and chickens.
I spend a lot of time learning new skills because I want to be useful and busy and not a burden to my husband.
That all being said, when my daughter starts school this fall, I will get a job, and probably go back to school. Because as Kim pointed out, what if my husband gets sick, or hurt, or dies? Much as I enjoy being able to stay home, I also feel responsible for being capable of returning the favor should the need arise, and also again, just doing whatever is in my power to be a help and not a hindrance.
you should be canonized, not criticized-- he's lucky to have someone like you IMHO-- it might help to help him value you more, and help you to value yourself more--
we're all in the same boat, it seems-- as Christians, we are the salt of the world, and heroes, and shouldn't let the world, or the spiritual enemies put us down, or put ourselves down.
just a thought--
wonderful thread!
She's not a cheap date--
(***note: copyrighted photo: "Pretty Woman;" Touchstone Pictures; 1990. demo only)
Just love that movie! Fits right in with the discussion-- As Christians we know that it was the power of God that changed both of the people in the movie. But, how? Who changed the real estate shark who tore down buildings and communities for a buck? The lady-- Who changed the lady into a lady? The guy-- and their love for one another...
"That's the power of love..."
"The power of love, is a curious thing...makes one man weep, and another man sing....change your heart into a little white dove...more than a feeling, that's the power of love..." "don't need no money, don't need no fame...don't need no credit card to ride this train..."
<strong><font size="4">[video=youtube;KsCptPuibjQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsCptPuibjQ[/video]
(***note: copyrighted photo: "Pretty Woman;" Touchstone Pictures; 1990. demo only)
Just love that movie! Fits right in with the discussion-- As Christians we know that it was the power of God that changed both of the people in the movie. But, how? Who changed the real estate shark who tore down buildings and communities for a buck? The lady-- Who changed the lady into a lady? The guy-- and their love for one another...
"That's the power of love..."
"The power of love, is a curious thing...makes one man weep, and another man sing....change your heart into a little white dove...more than a feeling, that's the power of love..." "don't need no money, don't need no fame...don't need no credit card to ride this train..."
<strong><font size="4">[video=youtube;KsCptPuibjQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsCptPuibjQ[/video]
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Well I’m glad I can multi task.
Without me there would be no one to do the gardening.
Oh and this is what I mean by gardening, last year I got a saw and sawed through
several thick branches up a ladder over a wall, cut them all up and dragged the garden
waste bin to the top of the Street ready for collection.
Without me there would be no one to go to work and bring
home the bacon.
Without me there would be no one to unblock drains.
Without me there would have been less people to help put up
tents and camp beds when I volunteered for a children’s camp
every year.
There would have been only one lady instead of two ladies to drag
loads of boxes of tracts, bibles and Christian literature out of an attic
for a Christian charity I did some volunteer work for.
There would be no one to lug all the heavy stuff around in the house, clear the
snow, do all the bending, lifting carrying around the house generally, painting,
telling the plumbing, electrician, what to do when they come (I hold my hands up
I can’t do these jobs lol),
But I’m still fluffy and dye my hair purple and still have all the added extras a woman
should have. (Just saying as these days with 5 genders ya never know.)
Without me there would be no one to do the gardening.
Oh and this is what I mean by gardening, last year I got a saw and sawed through
several thick branches up a ladder over a wall, cut them all up and dragged the garden
waste bin to the top of the Street ready for collection.
Without me there would be no one to go to work and bring
home the bacon.
Without me there would be no one to unblock drains.
Without me there would have been less people to help put up
tents and camp beds when I volunteered for a children’s camp
every year.
There would have been only one lady instead of two ladies to drag
loads of boxes of tracts, bibles and Christian literature out of an attic
for a Christian charity I did some volunteer work for.
There would be no one to lug all the heavy stuff around in the house, clear the
snow, do all the bending, lifting carrying around the house generally, painting,
telling the plumbing, electrician, what to do when they come (I hold my hands up
I can’t do these jobs lol),
But I’m still fluffy and dye my hair purple and still have all the added extras a woman
should have. (Just saying as these days with 5 genders ya never know.
)
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Hi Lynn,
I just wanted to clarify.
Of course I wasn't saying that men or woman "should" be anything... except what God has called them to be, of course.
The two women in the article did not work together--they worked at completely different stations, and they were not complaining at all or trying to prove themselves as being better, but rather, just stating the facts of the job. They just happened to be the two women that the article chose to quote, and they were not co-workers with each other. The work itself was rather isolating--hours of driving alone in rugged, barren terrain, knowing that at any minute you could be ambushed and shot. They actually had very little contact with co-workers, but were talking about what it was like when they did.
Both of these women did not have families of their own and seemed to be the kind of people who were made, or "called" for that type of job, and their basic message was, "If you like talking to other women or being treated gently, this ain't the job for you--move right along."
I also certainly wasn't saying that women being in the field of science is anything new either--I was just making the observation that it seems to be much more encouraged than it used to be (at the time, I was thinking of an organization started by a celebrity--model Karlie Kloss--that recruits and encourages young girls to try and develop their skills in coding.)
I guess I'm a bit different too in that I was raised in a VERY traditional household (husband provided; wife was the homemaker) but turned out to be a bit nontraditional myself, though I admit that it wasn't exactly due to my own choice. Once the husband left, I had to take on all the things he used to do along with all my regular chores (and of course, one doesn't need to be specifically divorced, single, or widowed to know that modern life just seems to require that many of us be a little bit of everything.)
I remember when a (female) friend came over to help me pack all my things before moving, and because we didn't have a guy to help us at the time, whenever she said there was a particularly heavy box, I just moved it myself. I can tell the effects of time, though, lol--my lifting capacity isn't quite the same as when I was in my 20's!
I do agree with the posts made that said that we are all designed for different things. Some women are meant to be in "tough jobs"; some men are meant to be stay-at-home dads; some people are designed to be provided for by someone else.
We all have a role, and of course, in the end, all that matters is what God calls us to to and whether or not we decide to obey His calling.
I just wanted to clarify.
Of course I wasn't saying that men or woman "should" be anything... except what God has called them to be, of course.
The two women in the article did not work together--they worked at completely different stations, and they were not complaining at all or trying to prove themselves as being better, but rather, just stating the facts of the job. They just happened to be the two women that the article chose to quote, and they were not co-workers with each other. The work itself was rather isolating--hours of driving alone in rugged, barren terrain, knowing that at any minute you could be ambushed and shot. They actually had very little contact with co-workers, but were talking about what it was like when they did.
Both of these women did not have families of their own and seemed to be the kind of people who were made, or "called" for that type of job, and their basic message was, "If you like talking to other women or being treated gently, this ain't the job for you--move right along."
I also certainly wasn't saying that women being in the field of science is anything new either--I was just making the observation that it seems to be much more encouraged than it used to be (at the time, I was thinking of an organization started by a celebrity--model Karlie Kloss--that recruits and encourages young girls to try and develop their skills in coding.)
I guess I'm a bit different too in that I was raised in a VERY traditional household (husband provided; wife was the homemaker) but turned out to be a bit nontraditional myself, though I admit that it wasn't exactly due to my own choice. Once the husband left, I had to take on all the things he used to do along with all my regular chores (and of course, one doesn't need to be specifically divorced, single, or widowed to know that modern life just seems to require that many of us be a little bit of everything.)
I remember when a (female) friend came over to help me pack all my things before moving, and because we didn't have a guy to help us at the time, whenever she said there was a particularly heavy box, I just moved it myself. I can tell the effects of time, though, lol--my lifting capacity isn't quite the same as when I was in my 20's!
I do agree with the posts made that said that we are all designed for different things. Some women are meant to be in "tough jobs"; some men are meant to be stay-at-home dads; some people are designed to be provided for by someone else.
We all have a role, and of course, in the end, all that matters is what God calls us to to and whether or not we decide to obey His calling.
I was thinking how tough it has to be to guard a population of mostly desperate people, with the criminals in the mix, and how hard it must be to figure out who is who. So, definitely a need for backup, but a combination of compassion and enforcement always in the forefront.Not the same, when it's happening away from locks and walls to protect you.
But I still see that like the male kindergarten teacher. Sure, most of the job is a solo act, but backup is still mighty important. Just knowing you can talk to co-workers about how to handle special situations has got to be such a relief. And, even if no one can get to you quickly enough to help, knowing that they would if they could, brings more confidence to do it alone.
And that first post? The books and cooking thing? That was pure joke, because I know you aren't the type to think cooking is women's work/money is men's work. I honestly think the vast majority on this site don't believe that. I just thought it was particularly funny because hubby and I have those roles reversed.
But, I wasn't sure if you got sciences can be women's work. I mean, I assumed you got women can be in sciences, but it sounded like a a woman firefighter. All firefighters have to be able to pull a 180 pound body over a good distance. Given most woman just can't, it seems like a fluke when there is one that can. That's what I thought you were saying -- most of us can't do the sciences. Sorry 'bout that. Did misunderstand. (And still, I can't do the sciences. lol)
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Well I’m glad I can multi task.
Without me there would be no one to do the gardening.
Oh and this is what I mean by gardening, last year I got a saw and sawed through
several thick branches up a ladder over a wall, cut them all up and dragged the garden
waste bin to the top of the Street ready for collection.
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Without me there would be no one to go to work and bring
home the bacon.
Without me there would be no one to unblock drains.
Without me there would have been less people to help put up
tents and camp beds when I volunteered for a children’s camp
every year.
There would have been only one lady instead of two ladies to drag
loads of boxes of tracts, bibles and Christian literature out of an attic
for a Christian charity I did some volunteer work for.
There would be no one to lug all the heavy stuff around in the house, clear the
snow, do all the bending, lifting carrying around the house generally, painting,
telling the plumbing, electrician, what to do when they come (I hold my hands up
I can’t do these jobs lol),
But I’m still fluffy and dye my hair purple and still have all the added extras a woman
should have. (Just saying as these days with 5 genders ya never know.)
Without me there would be no one to do the gardening.
Oh and this is what I mean by gardening, last year I got a saw and sawed through
several thick branches up a ladder over a wall, cut them all up and dragged the garden
waste bin to the top of the Street ready for collection.
View attachment 178901
Without me there would be no one to go to work and bring
home the bacon.
Without me there would be no one to unblock drains.
Without me there would have been less people to help put up
tents and camp beds when I volunteered for a children’s camp
every year.
There would have been only one lady instead of two ladies to drag
loads of boxes of tracts, bibles and Christian literature out of an attic
for a Christian charity I did some volunteer work for.
There would be no one to lug all the heavy stuff around in the house, clear the
snow, do all the bending, lifting carrying around the house generally, painting,
telling the plumbing, electrician, what to do when they come (I hold my hands up
I can’t do these jobs lol),
But I’m still fluffy and dye my hair purple and still have all the added extras a woman
should have. (Just saying as these days with 5 genders ya never know.
)
And you can clean out a clog? Where were you two weeks ago? lol