Left by his Wife

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Going back a few years, my friendship with James formulated through a bible study hosted by a mutual friend. James wasn't apart of our church and wasn't from the area. He moved here a few summers ago. He joined our network of friends and was a highly active member of his own church. Among us, he was a noted as a bible guru, living close to scripture. At the time I was a huge part of my church, it's young adults group and it's bible study. During those years, friends came and went and so did women in my life.

James, was one of them who stood out from the pack as someone who was interested in hanging out to open up about his life. During our first get together, we did a great deal of walking. He was single as was I. A few weeks later, we had a gathering with all sorts of friends at his place. A woman was there. A few weeks after that, he shared he was dating her after meeting her on an online dating site. I was going through a phase of dating several girls at church throughout the year, all going awry. During this time, James, elder of us, took a mentor role over me. I sought him for advice while his relationship with this woman grew. I got to see this whole thing play out. Throughout it, he offered me Christian books and CDs to educate me.

Before the year ended, they got engaged. I had a rough dating experience and a somber Christmas. The new year continued (a few years back still) and now many friends were getting engaged and ready to get married during the summer. James and fiance were one of them. I and a few friends were invited and attended that late summer.

That summer was an end of an era in many ways. I was getting away from Christian books and caring about church in general. I was tired of my church. I didn't see James for a while. That was until a new girl arrived at my church. We hit it off huge and it carried through the summer and fall well. Then seemingly around the end of the fall, things ended. James and I started going on walks again. This time, I was far more educated and experienced in life. James and I began disagreeing. It got to the point where I found it hard to believe he was actually married. He'd seem so foreign to things I was saying about women and dating. I had built up such an education that he was literally beating down everything I was saying.

The next year became all about trusting your instincts. Sure, James was my mentor, but I knew what I was experiencing and knew it was real. He kept sticking to the book and didn't want to read and react. I didn't see James half as much now and when we did, the disagreements grew. When I'd be over his house, his wife wasn't happy to see me. She'd even lecture him through wispers before we'd go hang out. He'd grow apologetic. When we did walk, he'd complain about how she acts. Then go on talking about how you're supposed to be as a Christian living a godly relationship. On the way home from a church trip, James and I had a major disagreement. So deep, that his two close friends, didn't even take his side but mine, agreeing with me word for word. James pressed me on the fact that he was married and I wasn't. I knew it didn't trump the reality of what really goes on in life. I've seen ugly people married and gorgeous people single. It means nothing either way.

I only hung out with him a few more times that year and finally saw him once this year. When I did see him this year, he shared of how his wife left after just over a year of marriage. As expected, he's still taking it hard half a year later and refuses to file for divorce. He believes she'll come to her senses and return. Despite, all the harsh ways she's treated him. Despite, her leaving him multiple times.

Our most recent meetup, was different, he wasn't so lecture driven and almost struggled to explain his dismal situation to me. It was like, inside he knew, I was dead on and always was dead on.
 
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I've never been married, though I've had the blessing of having been raised under the authority of an exceptionally good marriage and also under the hand of some great teachers about the topic, including my dad of course. One thing I can conclude, there's a huge gap between the theoretical aspect of marriage and the practical aspect of it. Seems like your friend James was all about the books and knowledge, and yet in the actual action of being married he failed.
I think the bridge here, between knowledge and practice, is prayer. Yes you can have some deep knowledge on how a marriage should be, but if you are unable to humble yourself and recognize that out of your own strength a good marriage is impossible, save by the grace of Christ, then your marriage will be a failure in God's terms. I hope your friend will reconsider his ways and make changes for his good.
 
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I've never been married, though I've had the blessing of having been raised under the authority of an exceptionally good marriage and also under the hand of some great teachers about the topic, including my dad of course. One thing I can conclude, there's a huge gap between the theoretical aspect of marriage and the practical aspect of it. Seems like your friend James was all about the books and knowledge, and yet in the actual action of being married he failed.
I think the bridge here, between knowledge and practice, is prayer. Yes you can have some deep knowledge on how a marriage should be, but if you are unable to humble yourself and recognize that out of your own strength a good marriage is impossible, save by the grace of Christ, then your marriage will be a failure in God's terms. I hope your friend will reconsider his ways and make changes for his good.
I should explain deeper. James prays about as much as anybody. James and his wife when they were together tried getting a 24/7 prayer room going. He gets together and prays with all sorts of prayer people at his church. So like I tell him, throwing more prayer at his problems can't trump the reality God's placing before him.

I should also say that his wife in my view has a history of social oddballness. She'd act out and make small scenes that would catch everyone's attention. I think he was a sucker for marriage who just doesn't want to admit to himself. He's in love with the idea of marriage and won't own up to it. He could've done better than her, really nothing special about her. She's problemary and despite being a christian, is possibly mentally diseased.

James should've surpressed his desire for marriage and said next. Instead, he lacked the self-belief to know another woman would come along. Now she's long since left, and spends her days with her awkward single BFF saying life is so great. She was immature and showed time and time again she wasn't ready for marriage. Why he won't file for divorce is beyond me.
 

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I should explain deeper. James prays about as much as anybody. James and his wife when they were together tried getting a 24/7 prayer room going. He gets together and prays with all sorts of prayer people at his church. So like I tell him, throwing more prayer at his problems can't trump the reality God's placing before him.

I should also say that his wife in my view has a history of social oddballness. She'd act out and make small scenes that would catch everyone's attention. I think he was a sucker for marriage who just doesn't want to admit to himself. He's in love with the idea of marriage and won't own up to it. He could've done better than her, really nothing special about her. She's problemary and despite being a christian, is possibly mentally diseased.

James should've surpressed his desire for marriage and said next. Instead, he lacked the self-belief to know another woman would come along. Now she's long since left, and spends her days with her awkward single BFF saying life is so great. She was immature and showed time and time again she wasn't ready for marriage. Why he won't file for divorce is beyond me.

I've seen other Christians in this dilemma as well.

This may not be his reason, but for them, they felt they had no option to file for divorce, even though their spouse had left and so forth.

They were taught that they could either stay married to their spouse and hope for a reconciliation, or be alone forever, and that there were no other options.

Faced with that, some Christians will stay married, hoping to someday reunite with their spouse, because that is the only choice the church gives them for hope of having a companion. In other words, stay married and hope your spouse will change their mind... or live the rest of your life out and die alone.

As I said, this may not be James' reasoning, but I've seen some Christians make the same choice for this reason.
 
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This all sounds very legalistic to me in the way your friend James approaches his marriage. She is obviously unfaithful, which means the Bible even acknowledges his ability to divorce her. I sure as hell would never stay with an unfaithful wife. I've been in a relationship with a girl who was cheating on me once, and it only hurts you more and more. Whether or not she was ever going to change (which she promised to do) wasn't even an option to me. I didn't care if she cheated just once that I knew of, or a thousand times. She did it, and so trust was gone forever. I ended things from that point and never looked back. Looking back, I am so much happier now than I ever would have been staying with her. I wasn't married to her, but I did live with her, and it was the closest thing to marriage you can have without actually having a ceremony.

I think the point is, he should move on and accept that she is gone. I realize you say she is nothing special and he can do better, but when you really love someone, you have rose colored glasses on at all times. That is probably the case with him. He probably WANTS her to come back with all he has, refusing to notice other women who are probably far better, but it just won't happen. The more he pushes the issue and pursues her, the more she will continue her act. She loses nothing in the deal. The only real thing he stands to lose from divorcing her at this point is a fake marriage and possibly a few possessions depending on what the local laws are on the subject. I say you convince him to forget her, and you help him heal by being a good friend. Eventually, he will meet someone else and will be far happier. Let the girl find her own misery. When she never gets remarried, she will learn her lesson, and he will have moved on and will be a happier man.

With all that said, if she was ever unfaithful, he has every right under biblical terms to end the marriage immediately. It will not be adultery. Even if it was, SHE ended the marriage, not him. He is not the sinner in the situation, and God knows our hearts. He knows that your friend did everything in his power to keep the marriage going. God is NOT legalistic and legalism is a lie from Satan himself. God HATES legalism. If men could save themselves by doing everything perfect... they don't dance, chew, or run with those who do type thing... then Jesus would never have had to have been born to wash away our sins.

Do the right thing and be his friend, and help him make the right choice. You are not being a good friend by standing put and saying "i am right while you are wrong" type of attitude that I gathered from the last sentence of your first post. A man that loses his wife needs support, because if not... he may well go insane and do something crazy like kill himself. I've seen it happen, and you sure don't want to lose your friend like that, even if you don't talk as much as you used to.
 
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I say you convince him to forget her, and you help him heal by being a good friend. Eventually, he will meet someone else and will be far happier. Let the girl find her own misery. When she never gets remarried, she will learn her lesson, and he will have moved on and will be a happier man.

You are not being a good friend by standing put and saying "i am right while you are wrong" type of attitude that I gathered from the last sentence of your first post.
I cringed when I typed my last sentence. Got lazy after a long thought out post. Nah, I'm not pointing that out to him LOL!

I enjoyed your reply. I definately see eye to eye on all these things. I've put in bold my favorite part.
 
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I cringed when I typed my last sentence. Got lazy after a long thought out post. Nah, I'm not pointing that out to him LOL!

I enjoyed your reply. I definately see eye to eye on all these things. I've put in bold my favorite part.
lol, well I'm glad we see eye to eye! I wasn't trying to put you down or anything haha, I was just thinking... if that's really how you feel... maybe you should change your stance just so your friend benefits a bit. You were right all along, and I think we all can agree on that, but I'm sure that isn't what your friend wants to hear! hahaha