"There Are Only 2 Kinds of Women..." (And Both Are Bad... So a Guy Friend Told Me.)

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seoulsearch

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"There Are Only 2 Kinds of Women..." (And Both Are Bad... So a Guy Friend Told Me.)

Hey Everyone,

I do realize the guys feel a bit beaten up here lately in the Singles Forum (although I must admit to enjoying Zeroturbulence's thread regarding women listing categories of men :)), and I have actually been waiting for a guy here to post a thread in which guys state their own frustrations with the women they've dated or liked over the years (someone besides just DABEARS ;), who writes excellent threads of his own.)

Guys, we do understand that it's a frustrating world out there in the land of "trying to meet someone."

As I wrote in another post, I have a Christian guy friend who once told me, "Kim, until you and I became friends, I always felt there were only two kinds of women: 1. those with serious issues, and 2. those who only want money. WOMEN!!! WOMEN!!!"

One of the greatest blessings in my life is having had good guy friends who are open, honest, and real with me so that I can catch a glimpse of the other side. And these are guys who have gone through some terrible things due to some pretty horrible choices made by the women in their lives.

One guy friend I had stuck with his marriage, even though his wife had been unfaithful more than once. When she left him permanently (she divorced him), she was pregnant with her current boyfriend's child (then tried to come back to my friend after her boyfriend dumped her.)

Another guy I was friends with for a long stretch of time was with a girl who aborted his child--without even telling him she was pregnant. I can still remember the heartbreaking anguish in his voice when he called and told me, "Kim, I just don't understand. Why? Why? I would have gladly raised the baby by myself."

Needless to say, I didn't sleep very well that night.

I often hear guys say that they want nice Christian girls and then find out the girls they like or are with aren't Christian, or that they wear revealing clothes, flirt with other guys, etc.

We women DO understand that it's tough for you as well. After all, we have fathers, brothers, uncles, and other guys we love in our lives and we see how hard it can be for them, too.

I try very hard to balance my own frustrations with remembering that we're all human and when it comes to meeting somewhere in the middle, there seem to be a lot more misses than hits.

I hope I'm not breaking some kind of Gender Code or Betrayal of My Own Sex by writing a thread in which guys will share their dating frustrations...

But one of the things I've found in life is that by hearing from the other side (hopefully we can keep it as a peaceful discussion), we not only improve ourselves, but hopefully come to a place of better understanding the other team as well. :D
 

seoulsearch

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P.S. I wrote this in another post but I just wanted to say again that the fact that many of you guys out there will take the time to read, think about, and reply to the rantings of us women lets us know that we have some really great guys out there!!

I also had to smile at the guys who were brave enough to recognize and even admit some of the supposed "categories" they fit into. :D I really got a kick out of that and thought it was so cool that some guys would actually subject themselves to a woman's logic (talk about displaying a supernatural ability of being able to display a sense of humor! :p)

Thanks for being so awesome, and don't lose hope. We are all in this together and it's always my hope on the forum that God will bring people together for friendships... and who knows, maybe even more. ;)
 
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That is a nice eye opener to see, but my feelings are that I often get bypassed or ignored by such guys complaining about not finding a good girl. I am a good woman a christian, now I have no diseur to seek out a man I will and am waiting in Gods time. However I do notice all these guys that say there are good guys are dating the wrong woman which in the end is when they complain it is not going right and there is no good woman out there. Its great to see the other side I feel sorry for both guys that were mentioned and I am sure there did not ask for what happened to them or deserve it but unless people are truly going to get ride of what they see as a standard and look at someone for what they really are and be content that maybe she or he is not perfect in every since but still a loving person you will always find one side complaining about the other since at one point or another we tend to be hurt by the opposite sex.
 

seoulsearch

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Hi See,

I appreciate your thoughts :)--these are things we can all relate to, whether we are guys or girls.

I just had to smile though--I wrote this thread hoping that the guys would have a chance to voice their thoughts and opinions and the first one to answer was a woman. :D NOT that women aren't invited to post in this thread as well (otherwise, I'd be excluded!) but it just reminded me of all the times I've heard men say women talk, and talk, and talk, and talk. :)

Yes guys, we women do like to make ourselves heard! Even in threads that are aimed at getting you to talk back to us. :p
 
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I'll jump in. ;)

First of all, I hope my post in the other thread wasn't taken as me not caring about what ya'all have been through or anything, I was just under the impression that it was a good and bad qualities thread, not just a venting thread. By all means vent away, I know from female friends that ya'all go through just as much with guys as we do with women, and I always feel bad when I hear any woman is or was getting mistreated by a guy.

Not sure how much my frustrations with dating will matter here, I only have one I'd prefer to talk about right now since it was my longest relationship and it started before I even thought of being christian.

We were together over 11 years, broke up a few months ago. It started out great then by about 6 years in two things happened to start driving us apart. I realized we acted more like room mates and almost never had any basic bf/gf interaction to each other, and I'm not talking sexual, even hugs and kisses were really rare. Also around this time I started seeking Jesus but for other reasons at the time, we partially broke up but continued to live together for financial reasons, needless to say we spent too much time around each other and never really broke up back then. I started ignoring God and focusing on her, and that went on another 5 years or so till early this year. During this time though I got ill and was homebound for quite some time and she ended up cheating on me with a guy from work, this triggered my depression that I hadn't really dealt with in years. The stress and anxiety and depression from this one thing messed me up pretty bad health wise. Last year something happened between us that stressed me out so bad I almost had a heart attack and have been having pains in my chest and arm ever since on and off. Since then I've learned a lot of things about her that I can't believe my feelings made me overlook through the years. It has for obvious reasons done a number on my confidence and self esteem issues, plus just the length of the relationship and finding myself 31 and single.

However, even though between her and the various really bad relationships before her where somehow I was always the one getting hurt, I am still hopeful that I may one day meet a woman that has the qualities the others lacked. Caring, compassionate, nice, faithful, etc. I'm not currently actively searching for someone, I have other issues to deal with first like my faith, but I know there are decent and awesome women out there for when I do get to the point of dating again. :) Just hoping I choose better next time.
 
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Its good you said look for faith first my biggest mistake was I didn't do that, I have no stories about relationships I have barley been in a relationship but that is due to pain from my past that I will not elaborate on for reasons its not meant for everyone to know. However because of my past I grew to not trust men I thought I was fine but I wasn't I was lying to myself so when I tried to date I couldn't make it work I kept wondering why saying I do put God first why doesn't it work, because I was lying to myself it finally took me opening up to my pastor and praying for release from the control of the past for me to become open and happy and free.
If I was only willing to be patient and look to him first I would not have been so silly with guys so its good to hear that you are so much wiser with that than others like myself. As for my above statement it was not meant to be venting I understand woman can be mean vicious things when we want to I have seen many woman hurt good guys I do like when either side complain about one another since I find human often forget that as hard as you its usually the same for the onsite sex.
 
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Kim,

Yeah sorry another woman here about to blab away :D

I get so frustrated with our gender. Those women out there that lie and manipulate to get what they want, then run it into the ground. Those that are totally self focused look at me look at me!! Those women that throw themselves at men because they dont realize there more valuable then they think. The ones that walk around hardly dressed to get attention. Its embarrassing.

I feel bad for the men that have had relationships with these type of women. It makes them think were ALL like that.
 
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Kim, is your friend sure there isn't a third type of woman, the type who has issues AND only wants money? Lol, just kidding. ;)

It is a shame that these stereotypes get ingrained in our opinions, and affect the decisions we make. I was noticing in the men stereotype thread that zeroturbulence started, that at first all of the stereotypes were negative. But, before I could say something about it, someone beat me to the punch. None of us are perfect, but hopefully we can begin to look beyond stereotypes.

I've only dated one guy, and he's not the sort of guy I'd picture myself with. He does seem a bit rough around the edges, wasn't exactly a star student in school (though he is smart), he's very outdoorsy and I'm not, he had problems with drugs and alcohol in his past, and his music tastes and movie tastes are very different from mine. However, because I had gotten to know him a bit, and I could see his love of Christ and for God's Word, I gave him a chance. I broke it off after a month because I wasn't developing any romantic feelings for him, and he understood and said he felt the same. But, while we were dating, he was a gentleman. He paid when we went out to eat, bought me a book I'd mentioned being interested in reading, showed a more sensitive side (which he wouldn't do in front of others, because he's a "man's man", if you know what I mean), he cooked me dinner one night, and held doors open for me, including opening my car door. It made me appreciate even more that appearances can be deceiving. His sister-in-law suspects that God intended for us to date so that I could understand and see how a godly man treats a woman, and to see a bit of God's love for me through him. That makes sense to me, and I'm glad that my first experience dating someone was a good one.

Now, I just have to wait for my path to cross with Mr. Right. Lol. :)

Anyway, I've derailed the thread a bit. I'd be interested in hearing from some other guys. I've heard some of the basics of what men think. You know, women are game players, vain, greedy, etc. But I'd like to go deeper, and really hear some of the other stereotypes. If nothing else, it puts me on guard, to be aware of myself and my actions. I don't like games, and I would prefer to be up front and honest. That may be just one of the many reasons why so few guys have shown any interest, but better to be true and find someone who likes me for who I am, than to be fake only for things to end badly later. So, guys? Lol.
 
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Yea I heard there are only two types of women too...

Those who are good at cooking in the kitchen...and those who are good at cooking in the ...:eek:

Dont look at me, I'm not the one who said it!
 
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I dont hit on females or go after them... I take the female roll most of the time and just let them come and talk to me.
 
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(someone besides just DABEARS ;), who writes excellent threads of his own.)
Ha, I'm glad you agree, but many seem to not. I have gotten lots of bad rep points for it!

This is what I received for posting my one thread that was slightly negative toward women:
So... I have a... July 18th, 2010 04:11 AM Tastless and full of ego :(
Tasteless and full of ego :(


Ahhhhh... I didn't really see it that way when I typed it, but who knows?

Things like that though... negative rep points for just posting my thoughts... make me not want to post them anymore. I'm not sure, but maybe I should just stop posting opinions and stick with non serious funny posts :)

Apparently, I am not well received when I go on a more serious opinionated route!
 
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But, I will post one more thing :D

There are two types of women... ohh.. and to clarify... I'm speaking in general... I think christian women break the mold here:

1. Bipolar emotional train wrecks, yet beautiful on the outside

2. Well held-together women, who are awesome personalities, yet not as beautiful on the outside as #1 (for some reason)


oh... well sometimes there's 3. Beautiful inside and out... I just haven't met a whole lot of those!


I think... the more physically attractive a woman gets (nonchristian anyway, general population), the more of an emotional mess she is on the inside. This can be a variety of things... but usually she is not so beautiful on the inside. The less physically attractive a woman is... the more she compensates with a personality! Hence, she is beautiful on the inside.

Christian women seem to break the mold, because they are beautiful inside and out, although the more attractive ones seem to have a bit more outgoing aggressive personalities :)
 
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But, I will post one more thing :D

There are two types of women... ohh.. and to clarify... I'm speaking in general... I think christian women break the mold here:

1. Bipolar emotional train wrecks, yet beautiful on the outside

2. Well held-together women, who are awesome personalities, yet not as beautiful on the outside as #1 (for some reason)


oh... well sometimes there's 3. Beautiful inside and out... I just haven't met a whole lot of those!


I think... the more physically attractive a woman gets (nonchristian anyway, general population), the more of an emotional mess she is on the inside. This can be a variety of things... but usually she is not so beautiful on the inside. The less physically attractive a woman is... the more she compensates with a personality! Hence, she is beautiful on the inside.

Christian women seem to break the mold, because they are beautiful inside and out, although the more attractive ones seem to have a bit more outgoing aggressive personalities :)

All women are a little crazy.
 

seoulsearch

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Kim,

Yeah sorry another woman here about to blab away :D

I get so frustrated with our gender. Those women out there that lie and manipulate to get what they want, then run it into the ground. Those that are totally self focused look at me look at me!! Those women that throw themselves at men because they dont realize there more valuable then they think. The ones that walk around hardly dressed to get attention. Its embarrassing.

I feel bad for the men that have had relationships with these type of women. It makes them think were ALL like that.

Thank you for all the great feedback, everyone. I hope people will keep posting, especially the guys.

Jen--yeah... I considered the third type of woman too (a combination of both negative categories--there are plenty of those as well!!)

Zero--so... according to the types of women you've heard about... one type cooks in the kitchen, and the other type... hmm... cooks out in public? (Maybe a cafeteria?) Ha, just kidding!!

DABEARS--I understand how you feel about posting--sometimes I think we all get negative feedback or comments, so don't be too discouraged. I remember a long time ago, I posted that I wished I could find a man like Joseph (Jacob's son) in the Bible because God spoke to Him in dreams (something I feel God does with me as well) and because he had such a strong sense of right and wrong (fleeing from Potipher's wife), but another poster said, "You're just a gold digger." HA!!! Every relationship I've had, I wind up paying for everything!

This is just me, but I tend to turn negative feedback into ideas for new threads. :D But, it's also helped me learn to be a better writer and communicator. I do try to be respectful and it reminds me to balance venting with needing to encourage other people as well. Keep your chin up and keep sharing your thoughts with us--I always wonder how the feedback system would work if it weren't anonymous (uh... maybe you'll find that I'm the one giving all the negative comments... ha! Just kidding!!)

Sorry I don't have time to reply to everyone's thoughts here, but Nod, your post really popped out in my mind, and I couldn't agree with you more.

It's depressing seeing some people act this way, and even more depressing to watch our friends or the guys we have huge crushes on fall for women like this--of course, some of it is a learning process, because we're all responsible for our own choices, whether good or bad--but it's still FRUSTRATING!!!

Thanks for all the great thoughts and I hope y'all will keep sharing! :)
 
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lol! Well, I think sometimes I just post to post, and whatever pops into my head comes out. I fail to think about what I'm saying, and it backfires quite a bit :) Also, sometimes I'm less than clear on what my intentions or real feelings are with it... unintentionally of course, and a lot of people jump on it with a fury hahaha.

ANYWAY, I'll make a fun little list of women types that I can think of:

1. Gold digger: You got money, she wants it. Somehow, it ends up from your wallet into her purse... or as one!
2. Miss One of the Guys: This girl is not someone you'd date, but you'd invite her to Sunday Night Football with beer and wings with no hesitation!
3. Daddy Issues: For some reason, her dad didn't hug her enough as a child. She constantly needs men in her life, and they come and go FAST.
4. Ugly Duckling: This girl was the ugly ducking in High School, but turned into the swan after. Still somewhat socially awkward, but gorgeous inside n out.
5. I'm Hot and I know It: This girl walks into a room with her nose up high. She knows she's hot, and you better know it too! Generally, a B word. :eek:
6. Girl Next Door: This girl is your best friend, or "spare" as Seoulsearch likes to call it. You tell and ask her about relationship advice, but never date her.
7. Stacie's Mom: This is the older lady that is every "cub's" dream. They make songs about her and 4 letter M words. Also known as the "cougar"
8. Train Wreck: This girl is crazier than a locked room with padded walls. Her emotions are all over, and she will scream and cry at command. BEWARE!
9. The Ugly Truth: This girl likes another guy, but she needs advice! You realize you have just become Gerard Butler, but help her anyway.
10. Alicia Silverstone: This girl is clueless and ditsy. No matter her color, her brain thinks in blonde. Never let her drive a car. Ever. Period.
11. Tree Hugger: This girl thinks in green. She loves nature, recycles daily, and posts "save the earth" magnets on your fridge. Sometimes vegetarian too
12. Miss Cheats-a-lot: Closely related to Daddy Issues, this girl couldn't remain faithful to her own dog. Needs to cheat to feel loved or in control.
13. Miss Pushover: This girl just cannot say no. Constantly walked on, it seems EVERYONE guilt trips her. Local doormat for most guys. Sad case
14. Friend's lil Sister: This girl is clearly too young for you, but oh my gawh look at those... eyes! This will either get you 20 years or a punch in the face.
15. One Upper: This girl does everything better than you, or at least pretends! If you do anything, she has done it better, somehow, someway, despite how bad of a story it may seem. She's walked on the moon, can speak every language in the world, and once armed wrestled Arnold Schwarzenager.


How's this list so far? :) I could probably think of 100 more, but I'll stop here! haha
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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lol! Well, I think sometimes I just post to post, and whatever pops into my head comes out. I fail to think about what I'm saying, and it backfires quite a bit :) Also, sometimes I'm less than clear on what my intentions or real feelings are with it... unintentionally of course, and a lot of people jump on it with a fury hahaha.

ANYWAY, I'll make a fun little list of women types that I can think of:

1. Gold digger: You got money, she wants it. Somehow, it ends up from your wallet into her purse... or as one!
2. Miss One of the Guys: This girl is not someone you'd date, but you'd invite her to Sunday Night Football with beer and wings with no hesitation!
3. Daddy Issues: For some reason, her dad didn't hug her enough as a child. She constantly needs men in her life, and they come and go FAST.
4. Ugly Duckling: This girl was the ugly ducking in High School, but turned into the swan after. Still somewhat socially awkward, but gorgeous inside n out.
5. I'm Hot and I know It: This girl walks into a room with her nose up high. She knows she's hot, and you better know it too! Generally, a B word. :eek:
6. Girl Next Door: This girl is your best friend, or "spare" as Seoulsearch likes to call it. You tell and ask her about relationship advice, but never date her.
7. Stacie's Mom: This is the older lady that is every "cub's" dream. They make songs about her and 4 letter M words. Also known as the "cougar"
8. Train Wreck: This girl is crazier than a locked room with padded walls. Her emotions are all over, and she will scream and cry at command. BEWARE!
9. The Ugly Truth: This girl likes another guy, but she needs advice! You realize you have just become Gerard Butler, but help her anyway.
10. Alicia Silverstone: This girl is clueless and ditsy. No matter her color, her brain thinks in blonde. Never let her drive a car. Ever. Period.
11. Tree Hugger: This girl thinks in green. She loves nature, recycles daily, and posts "save the earth" magnets on your fridge. Sometimes vegetarian too
12. Miss Cheats-a-lot: Closely related to Daddy Issues, this girl couldn't remain faithful to her own dog. Needs to cheat to feel loved or in control.
13. Miss Pushover: This girl just cannot say no. Constantly walked on, it seems EVERYONE guilt trips her. Local doormat for most guys. Sad case
14. Friend's lil Sister: This girl is clearly too young for you, but oh my gawh look at those... eyes! This will either get you 20 years or a punch in the face.
15. One Upper: This girl does everything better than you, or at least pretends! If you do anything, she has done it better, somehow, someway, despite how bad of a story it may seem. She's walked on the moon, can speak every language in the world, and once armed wrestled Arnold Schwarzenager.


How's this list so far? :) I could probably think of 100 more, but I'll stop here! haha

That list sounds like something that could go in cosmo
 
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lol! Well, I think sometimes I just post to post, and whatever pops into my head comes out. I fail to think about what I'm saying, and it backfires quite a bit :) Also, sometimes I'm less than clear on what my intentions or real feelings are with it... unintentionally of course, and a lot of people jump on it with a fury hahaha.

ANYWAY, I'll make a fun little list of women types that I can think of:

1. Gold digger: You got money, she wants it. Somehow, it ends up from your wallet into her purse... or as one!
2. Miss One of the Guys: This girl is not someone you'd date, but you'd invite her to Sunday Night Football with beer and wings with no hesitation!
3. Daddy Issues: For some reason, her dad didn't hug her enough as a child. She constantly needs men in her life, and they come and go FAST.
4. Ugly Duckling: This girl was the ugly ducking in High School, but turned into the swan after. Still somewhat socially awkward, but gorgeous inside n out.
5. I'm Hot and I know It: This girl walks into a room with her nose up high. She knows she's hot, and you better know it too! Generally, a B word. :eek:
6. Girl Next Door: This girl is your best friend, or "spare" as Seoulsearch likes to call it. You tell and ask her about relationship advice, but never date her.
7. Stacie's Mom: This is the older lady that is every "cub's" dream. They make songs about her and 4 letter M words. Also known as the "cougar"
8. Train Wreck: This girl is crazier than a locked room with padded walls. Her emotions are all over, and she will scream and cry at command. BEWARE!
9. The Ugly Truth: This girl likes another guy, but she needs advice! You realize you have just become Gerard Butler, but help her anyway.
10. Alicia Silverstone: This girl is clueless and ditsy. No matter her color, her brain thinks in blonde. Never let her drive a car. Ever. Period.
11. Tree Hugger: This girl thinks in green. She loves nature, recycles daily, and posts "save the earth" magnets on your fridge. Sometimes vegetarian too
12. Miss Cheats-a-lot: Closely related to Daddy Issues, this girl couldn't remain faithful to her own dog. Needs to cheat to feel loved or in control.
13. Miss Pushover: This girl just cannot say no. Constantly walked on, it seems EVERYONE guilt trips her. Local doormat for most guys. Sad case
14. Friend's lil Sister: This girl is clearly too young for you, but oh my gawh look at those... eyes! This will either get you 20 years or a punch in the face.
15. One Upper: This girl does everything better than you, or at least pretends! If you do anything, she has done it better, somehow, someway, despite how bad of a story it may seem. She's walked on the moon, can speak every language in the world, and once armed wrestled Arnold Schwarzenager.


How's this list so far? :) I could probably think of 100 more, but I'll stop here! haha
Paul's staying single advice is sounding better and better...
 
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amen to that jullianna!!!!
 
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Hi Another Woman chiming in.

I heard somewhere and I don't know how much truth it holds but it raises a quizical note in me, and that is that we tend to pick out people like our parents or people we can fix or both ie weak in an area we may be strong in as it makes us feel good about ourselves.

As I am newly widowed 3.5 years I have chosen not to get back out there because I see both men and women struggeling with everything you all have mentioned. I have done a great deal of healing in the 3.5 years time and have no desire to jump into a relationship that is not good for me so it has sent me on a quest to learn what a whole healed and godly man looks like.

As a woman the bible (the word of God) tells me that I am to focus on Him as my husband. He as my husband will provide, protect and care for me and my children and I have to say He has done an awesome job so far and I am learning to lean on Him more every day. I have learned that even after I marry again I have to continue that relationship with God and my husband would do the same. Then when we fall short of pleasing each other or meeting expectations we can take it to the Lord instead of nagging or criticising. I can say from experience in my former marriage this is true in how it works.

For women we are to wait on God to either move us or move our intended into the path of our meeting, but it is the guys job to pursue or is this wrong? I am not a guy and I have heard comments from some very serious christian men who have said they are waiting on God to show him the right woman. It seems to me IF the guy is fully healed and ready for a relationship he could still get himself involved with the wrong woman if she is not the one God wants for him and causing pain because he pursued her instead of waiting on God to show him who he is to marry. The non christian on looker then questions this by saying if women are not looking but waiting on God and men are not looking but waiting on God then how is anyone ever going to get married? Are they all scared or what? Um, if they are fully healed and dependent on God they are not operating out of fear because fear is not of God but it is still a good question. Do any of the guys have an answer to this? What is your motive for waiting? Is it Biblical? Is it for personal healing time? Is it to focus on God and draw closer to Him? Do you know what a healed and healthy woman looks like? Can/does God show you through scripture what to look for and what not to look for same as women learn? It's a valid questions because women some times learn differently from men. Is your only source of learning these things via other godly men? If so do you have enough other godly men in your life to assit and mentor you in this? These are a lot of questions but I have 3 boys and as a mom I want to know so that I may understand the needs of my sons better and I will be asking them these questions but because of their ages they may not be able to answer me so your gental thoughtful answers are greatly appreciated.

At least this gets us off of finger pointing and blaming the opposite sex and gets us to the problem solving stage. I think if we as Christians not only learn but model what God is trying to teach us and experience success in our relationships then we can be that light the stand or salt of the earth to others.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Re: "There Are Only 2 Kinds of Women..." (And Both Are Bad... So a Guy Friend Told Me

Guess what guys. You get to choose who you let into your circle of trust to date. If someone is playing games with you, engaging in unhealthy or unGodly words and behavior, you can push the 'out of the circle of trust' button and make more friends that are female. Until you tie the knot, you get to choose. So make your choices wisely.