The Mayhem We All Came To Regret

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A story of seeking love within your church.

We all thought it would be simple. We were saved. We were in a place of people who were saved. We knew it was simple. Wait on God. We'll find that person God has for us.

2009. Everyone's turning on each other. Everyone's engaged within a 40 day time frame and the summers got nothing but weddings and honeymoons. Everyone's getting married and leaving the young adults group. A true story.

They're fighting each other over wedding dates, who's getting married in the best church, the best honeymoon, who and who's not getting invited. I stand with a soda in hand. Aren't you upset, I'm asked? "I'm only a guru, and besides it's not my place to self-defeat if it didn't work out with three other women over the course of two years. It's also not my fault, every woman here is either dating, engaged, married or somone I've already dated. I'm not gonna be hard on myself and think myself as a loser, was there from 2005-07 and I'm not going back."

We had all come to church, seeking something else besides God, a spouse. Once most of them found it, suddenly they had no interest in the young adult ministry. It was like a worldy club, meet someone, get married, salvage a few friends and bail. Everyone turns on each other in the end.

So all the singles consider the others helpless losers themselves. This is my fight. This is why I dawned "ChristianGuru" to unlock everyone's lowly self-perception and help individuals rise out of silly cliches and make a stand of self-confidence and realization for themselves.

It took me from Grade 7 to Grade 12 to just say hello to the prettiest girl in church, that I liked. It took from my 1st church service to my 3rd to do it now. *She wasn't at the 1st service I went too.

2010. New Church. Young Adults Group. I see a pretty woman at church, only a few years younger. I approach her, invite her out, she declines, socially paranoid at life. She's been there forever. Everyone at this new church act like they're in 3rd grade. The guys on one side of the room, the women on the other. Are you kidding me? She's way too focused on things, no time to relax and enjoy life.

A few weeks later, the most gorgeous women in church, I sit down next to her at my 3rd service. We hit it off during all of our 30 seconds of greeting time. I wish her farewell following service. My friend and his girlfriend shocked at my confidence level. As pretty as she was, I left the conversation terrified. She was like 30, gorgeous and single. That's not what terrified me. It was the fact that she had been at this tiny little beanpot church since she was in elementary school. She had never transceneded herself, stepped outside the box a little bit and sought elsewhere.

2010. The big city in the state below ours. I get a bunch of friends together and we go to an outdoor dancing event. I get the numbers of two girls. It makes me stop. I just pulled this off like a literal expert. It wasn't tough. They're weren't too serious about life. This was like the end of the movie. Simplicity was the solution.

We as christians push our minds to the limit over finding the one, when we live in a world of great people all over the place. In some ways, it's almost like seeking people at church is our curse. We only focus on other Christians. It seems when we open up ourselves to non-believers outside of church, we open ourselves to opportunities to witness. *Not in all circumstances or situations.

My friend and I walk away after I got the second woman's number and says...

"You probably shouldn't missionary date.."

I reply, "You know, I wouldn't but it seems like every woman at our church, I either find unattractive, unappealing or way too out of range in the way they live their Christian lives. That girl I dated two years ago, turned out to a be potentially lesbian and Jonathan's probably will too, after she left him, despite all those Christian dating and marriage books they read. That girl I liked from 7th-12th grade, married some rich doctor, I'm not even sure if he's even saved... she also defriended me on facebook."

We continue walking...

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Soap is something you wash your face with!
 
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Hmmm...if I ever need lessons in bragging about myself I think I know who to call...
 
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Hmmm...if I ever need lessons in bragging about myself I think I know who to call...
If I ever need lessons in low blowing people I'll know who to call. ;) I may display my confidence and success in threads but I'm glad I don't spend my time taking shots at people. These are defined as haters.
 
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I'm not sure why, but I'm completely confused.
 
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If I ever need lessons in low blowing people I'll know who to call. ;) I may display my confidence and success in threads but I'm glad I don't spend my time taking shots at people. These are defined as haters.
I never hate. I only expose. Perhaps Ive exposed something about yourself that you don't like, but its cool because we all have things we dont like about ourselves.

If you want to turn this into an opportunity to debunk my statement, then there is one thing you can do: man-up and admit that you were indeed bragging a bit there. That could go a long way in earning people's respect and admiration, which is what i think you are shooting for but in a misguided way.
 
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Oh and yea it was an off-handed comment and Im sorry about that. i couldn't help myself. Ive just never seen someone talk so much about how successful they are with women before. My apologies.
 
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Oh and yea it was an off-handed comment and Im sorry about that. i couldn't help myself. Ive just never seen someone talk so much about how successful they are with women before. My apologies.
I know tons of guys, who I'm friends with of course ;) who talk about their success with women all the time. I have friends who get payed to help people live it. I have plently of friends who've sought my advice. I find this shocking that at age 44 and I'm guessing single that you don't have friends who actually succeed with women.
 
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I never hate. I only expose. Perhaps Ive exposed something about yourself that you don't like, but its cool because we all have things we dont like about ourselves.

If you want to turn this into an opportunity to debunk my statement, then there is one thing you can do: man-up and admit that you were indeed bragging a bit there. That could go a long way in earning people's respect and admiration, which is what i think you are shooting for but in a misguided way.
Good luck with "exposing" people it's a sure way to make friends.

Go a long way in earning people's respect and admiration? What people think is none of my business. You overlook the fact that this thread isn't about bragging, showing off and saying hey look at me which is what many posters on here accuss me of. It's about self-development, improvement, becoming more self-aware and educated. Unfortunately all the trials and tribulations I tell of are overlooked.

It's unreal at how many people on here author a thread complaining. I offer my proven solutions, it's ignored and 3 days later they're still spinning in circles with new threads. It's nice know at least somebody like myself can read between the lines and think outside the box.

If I was another poster on here I'd be private messaging myself on a daily basis for advice and thoughts. I'd be able to save a lot of people the misery that they constantly complain about.

We're all quick to offer pity to those in need, but quick to hate on those with valuable solutions.
 
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Youre absolutely right! Exposing people is not a good way to make friends, and I apologize.

As fas as friends who have been very successful with women, yes I have had two very good friends like that. One was a semi-professional bodybuilder and the other was a world-ranked figure skater. Actually I had one more but he was more of a con artist who twisted truths about himself to win over women's affections - and it usually worked! He is married now so his days of conning women are over.

And yes I am single and was a complete loser when it came to women until I reached my late 20's when I decided to change myself physically and it turned my luck around. Unfortunately the physical change did not last more than a few years and I suffered a long, deep depression which had little to do with women but everything to do with how I found God, and for other reasons I am still single but these reason are very personal and I dont want to bring them up in a public forum.

Now, if you want to know why people dont seem to be receptive to your advice, I would like to give you a little advice (its totally up to you to take it of course)...

When giving relationship advice its not like giving advice on say...how to be a great cook for example. You could say "my cooking has won this award and that award" and people will be all ears to any advice you give them. But relationship advice is different. You have to start at a level that your audience can relate to. They have to hear that you have been in their shoes. Instead of just announcing that you have answers, you've got to show people that you are just like them and so the logic is "if Christianguru can do it...maybe I can too" instead of "what is this Christianguru raving about?"
 
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A story of seeking love within your church.

We all thought it would be simple. We were saved. We were in a place of people who were saved. We knew it was simple. Wait on God. We'll find that person God has for us.

2009. Everyone's turning on each other. Everyone's engaged within a 40 day time frame and the summers got nothing but weddings and honeymoons. Everyone's getting married and leaving the young adults group. A true story.

They're fighting each other over wedding dates, who's getting married in the best church, the best honeymoon, who and who's not getting invited. I stand with a soda in hand. Aren't you upset, I'm asked? "I'm only a guru, and besides it's not my place to self-defeat if it didn't work out with three other women over the course of two years. It's also not my fault, every woman here is either dating, engaged, married or somone I've already dated. I'm not gonna be hard on myself and think myself as a loser, was there from 2005-07 and I'm not going back."

We had all come to church, seeking something else besides God, a spouse. Once most of them found it, suddenly they had no interest in the young adult ministry. It was like a worldy club, meet someone, get married, salvage a few friends and bail. Everyone turns on each other in the end.

So all the singles consider the others helpless losers themselves. This is my fight. This is why I dawned "ChristianGuru" to unlock everyone's lowly self-perception and help individuals rise out of silly cliches and make a stand of self-confidence and realization for themselves.

It took me from Grade 7 to Grade 12 to just say hello to the prettiest girl in church, that I liked. It took from my 1st church service to my 3rd to do it now. *She wasn't at the 1st service I went too.

2010. New Church. Young Adults Group. I see a pretty woman at church, only a few years younger. I approach her, invite her out, she declines, socially paranoid at life. She's been there forever. Everyone at this new church act like they're in 3rd grade. The guys on one side of the room, the women on the other. Are you kidding me? She's way too focused on things, no time to relax and enjoy life.

A few weeks later, the most gorgeous women in church, I sit down next to her at my 3rd service. We hit it off during all of our 30 seconds of greeting time. I wish her farewell following service. My friend and his girlfriend shocked at my confidence level. As pretty as she was, I left the conversation terrified. She was like 30, gorgeous and single. That's not what terrified me. It was the fact that she had been at this tiny little beanpot church since she was in elementary school. She had never transceneded herself, stepped outside the box a little bit and sought elsewhere.

2010. The big city in the state below ours. I get a bunch of friends together and we go to an outdoor dancing event. I get the numbers of two girls. It makes me stop. I just pulled this off like a literal expert. It wasn't tough. They're weren't too serious about life. This was like the end of the movie. Simplicity was the solution.

We as christians push our minds to the limit over finding the one, when we live in a world of great people all over the place. In some ways, it's almost like seeking people at church is our curse. We only focus on other Christians. It seems when we open up ourselves to non-believers outside of church, we open ourselves to opportunities to witness. *Not in all circumstances or situations.

My friend and I walk away after I got the second woman's number and says...

"You probably shouldn't missionary date.."

I reply, "You know, I wouldn't but it seems like every woman at our church, I either find unattractive, unappealing or way too out of range in the way they live their Christian lives. That girl I dated two years ago, turned out to a be potentially lesbian and Jonathan's probably will too, after she left him, despite all those Christian dating and marriage books they read. That girl I liked from 7th-12th grade, married some rich doctor, I'm not even sure if he's even saved... she also defriended me on facebook."

We continue walking...

CU end credit music.
I've read a few of your posts and you strike me as a bit delusional. Remind me a bit of this guy: YouTube - Dimitri - The Stud

Your name isn't Dimitri, is it?
 
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ChristianGuru

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When giving relationship advice its not like giving advice on say...how to be a great cook for example. You could say "my cooking has won this award and that award" and people will be all ears to any advice you give them. But relationship advice is different. You have to start at a level that your audience can relate to. They have to hear that you have been in their shoes. Instead of just announcing that you have answers, you've got to show people that you are just like them and so the logic is "if Christianguru can do it...maybe I can too" instead of "what is this Christianguru raving about?"
I believe I did this in my original post when I described struggles from grades 7-12 growing up.
 
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ChristianGuru

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I've read a few of your posts and you strike me as a bit delusional. Remind me a bit of this guy: YouTube - Dimitri - The Stud

Your name isn't Dimitri, is it?
I've heard Dimitri before, crazy guy. As far as delusional goes? I think people find what I say is far fetched because they don't have a strong belief like I do. Your dreams can be realized. If delusional is defying limitations then call me delusional. My buddy just texted me 40 minutes ago and wants me to join him at a $500k penthouse he has for the entire weekend. So I find myself hardly delusional. Just because you don't live my reality, doesn't mean my reality ain't real.