Is it rape?

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kshine

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My friend and her husband r seperated she told me he came by one morning about 6 am he'd just got off work and asked her if he could use her fax machine to fax his job a paper the fax machine is located in her room he followed her to the room and began to fax the paper after many failed attemps he began to wrestle with her and pin her down shed already expressed to him on many accations that she did not want to have sex with him that day he continued to force himself on her to the point of entryshe cried and he stop she asked him to leave he did not he began to fax his paper againg and call his job. After another faild attemp he started on her again he forced hisself this time she laid there and he began to releive himselfher room door was cracked open and her kids where there she asked him if he could close the door he got up and did so then she let him back on top of her she even grab him at one point he finished and she felt like **** she said. All day she felt raped but couldn't say it cause she let him close the door and even grabed him she was healing now feels like she has lost herself all over and had troble dealing with if it was rape are consinual after the second time bcus she felt she engaged. She just got a break through with the seperation and was able to say No to all he asked. She feel like it was her fault bcus she let him in and didn't fight she gave up r maybe gave in to his need.
 
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SandCrabby

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this sounds dumb, but get a cop, and put him away. rape is Rape. period.
 
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Ugly

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Yeah, that's rape. Just because she knew she was overpowered and didn't want to attract the children's attention by making a scene didn't mean she wasn't raped. She only consented when she knew she could not fight him off, but it was not her true desire to have sex with him. Anytime you resist a man and he pushes himself on you and forces himself its rape. Even in marriage. She needs to call the police and have him arrested and charged, and she needs to do this as soon as possible. There's a good chance if she does nothing about it this time he could continue this behavior because he'll know he can get away with it.
 
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Jullianna

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Yes, it is rape. It is also assault and battery, married or not. She should report it. If she doesn't, he will more than likely do it again.
 
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Tobby17

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Rape???. That's a JOKE right??

Men are very persistent that's all, if she agreed, I DON'T CALL THAT RAPE. Sorry
 
Oncefallen

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Tobby17 said:
Rape???. That's a JOKE right??

Men are very persistent that's all, if she agreed, I DON'T CALL THAT RAPE. Sorry
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The courts in 50 states would disagree with you. As soon as physical force or threat of physical force enters into the equation it is rape. No man (or woman for that matter) has the right to demand sexual activity from another person, it doesn't matter if they are married or not.
 
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Jullianna

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This is not a game, Tobby. Being persistent is one thing, but even that can become ILLEGAL when it turns into stalking and/or harassment. Both men AND women need to understand that. We can have all of the theories and opinions we want, but the law is clear.

This man not only raped and assaulted this woman, he did it in front of children. It not only scars the woman, it scars the children as well. Violence only begets more violence. If he gets by with this, there will undoubtedly be a next time. What happens if she gets so tired and frustrated that it is happening that she defends herself and kills him to make him stop??? I've seen it happen.

It needs to stop NOW before things get worse. If this woman doesn't want to report it for herself, she needs to consider the impact this will have on her children. Her life is not the only one that could be impacted here. Allowing violent behavior in her home could cause her to lose her children at some point. I've seen that happen as well.
 
Oncefallen

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*Thinks Jullianna said it better. ^^
 
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Matthew

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kshine said:
All day she felt raped but couldn't say it cause she let him close the door and even grabed him she was healing now feels like she has lost herself all over and had troble dealing with if it was rape are consinual after the second time bcus she felt she engaged. She just got a break through with the seperation and was able to say No to all he asked. She feel like it was her fault bcus she let him in and didn't fight she gave up r maybe gave in to his need.
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There is no shame in becoming sexually aroused, our minds don't always respond the same as our bodies and that feeling is simply an unavoidable chemical reaction when someone pursues sexual contact.

The woman in question was raped, in fact raped and sexually assaulted just before.
It needs to be reported to the police as soon after the occurence as possible, as Jullianna states, if not done it is almost an invitation to repeat offending because he will fear no consequence, add to that the children who were present need to also be protected from this man whose crimes could esclate into other forms of violence.
 
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Tobby17

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Jullianna said:
This is not a game, Tobby. Being persistent is one thing, but even that can become ILLEGAL when it turns into stalking and/or harassment. Both men AND women need to understand that. We can have all of the theories and opinions we want, but the law is clear.

This man not only raped and assaulted this woman, he did it in front of children. It not only scars the woman, it scars the children as well. Violence only begets more violence. If he gets by with this, there will undoubtedly be a next time. What happens if she gets so tired and frustrated that it is happening that she defends herself and kills him to make him stop??? I've seen it happen.

It needs to stop NOW before things get worse. If this woman doesn't want to report it for herself, she needs to consider the impact this will have on her children. Her life is not the only one that could be impacted here. Allowing violent behavior in her home could cause her to lose her children at some point. I've seen that happen as well.
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hmm OK, u're right :p.. So what??, I never accept defeat :D :D..

Just kidding :)
 
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Jullianna

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Behave or we'll come to your house and take away all of your Legos, Tobby :)
 
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kayem77

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Jullianna said:
This is not a game, Tobby. Being persistent is one thing, but even that can become ILLEGAL when it turns into stalking and/or harassment. Both men AND women need to understand that. We can have all of the theories and opinions we want, but the law is clear.

This man not only raped and assaulted this woman, he did it in front of children. It not only scars the woman, it scars the children as well. Violence only begets more violence. If he gets by with this, there will undoubtedly be a next time. What happens if she gets so tired and frustrated that it is happening that she defends herself and kills him to make him stop??? I've seen it happen.

It needs to stop NOW before things get worse. If this woman doesn't want to report it for herself, she needs to consider the impact this will have on her children. Her life is not the only one that could be impacted here. Allowing violent behavior in her home could cause her to lose her children at some point. I've seen that happen as well.
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Couldnt agree more with Jullianna. This has to stop , NOW!

Im sick of people trying to justify their actions with lame excuses. I know how this can damage a woman, those wounds are sometimes very hard to heal. Praying for your friend's heart and safety.
 
zeroturbulence

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That is rape. Pure and simple. This guy needs to be put away. There is no telling who he will do it to next.
 
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violakat

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kshine said:
My friend and her husband r seperated she told me he came by one morning about 6 am he'd just got off work and asked her if he could use her fax machine to fax his job a paper the fax machine is located in her room he followed her to the room and began to fax the paper after many failed attemps he began to wrestle with her and pin her down shed already expressed to him on many accations that she did not want to have sex with him that day he continued to force himself on her to the point of entryshe cried and he stop she asked him to leave he did not he began to fax his paper againg and call his job. After another faild attemp he started on her again he forced hisself this time she laid there and he began to releive himselfher room door was cracked open and her kids where there she asked him if he could close the door he got up and did so then she let him back on top of her she even grab him at one point he finished and she felt like **** she said. All day she felt raped but couldn't say it cause she let him close the door and even grabed him she was healing now feels like she has lost herself all over and had troble dealing with if it was rape are consinual after the second time bcus she felt she engaged. She just got a break through with the seperation and was able to say No to all he asked. She feel like it was her fault bcus she let him in and didn't fight she gave up r maybe gave in to his need.
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Like everyone said, it is rape. What she did, was try and survive a horrifying situation. She had no control over what happened. If she's afraid to get help, have her go to rainn.org.
 
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preschoolteacher24

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If girls feeels raped or even guy its rape I mean its jsut a fact you know rape is not wanting or not agreeing ok.
 
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IamachildofGOD

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Not only he raped and assulted her, he gained entry into the house under false pretense. Also, the children was at home. Did they see anything? This is rape and assualt. Also, because the children was in the house, even if they didn't know what was going on, he can be charged with children endangerment. The fact she told him that she didn't want sex made this rape. Because he kept trying to fax and it fail several times then instist on having sex, made it premeditation. Otherwords he is a preditor.
 
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asd101

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Just what do you unconsentual sex without marriage??? You decide... I say YES, IT IS RAPE!!
 
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