Porn - An Anonymous Poll

[AsifinPassing]

What would be REALLY great...is if we never gave into the temptations in the first place. Our moments of choice in the temptations of our lives are the gateways to things like addiction. In may ways, we either give into our weaknesses (lust, gluttony, ext...), or we try to escape our problems/pain through vices. This, btw, never works. (...nuh-uh...I mean, I drank and forgot and..."Yeah, and the next day?" Oh...*coughs* "Glad we had this chat...")

So, Porn, though a problem, has it's roots in us. It's our lust and greed that make the market for porn what it is. Really, those can boil down to selfishness when you think about it. Man, eliminating selfishness sure would resolve a multitude of issues... Anyway, I speak these things not as one trying to be right over others, but out of my experience within my own life, and other's.

The only hope we have is Christ. Always has been. Always will be. We can't do this alone. Stay strong in The Lord and the power of His might. If we stand with Him, and through Him, with each other, then though we may stumble, we'll never fall.

[endtimes12]

yes and got me in more trouble than I can say to those who use it I can only say it is a awful thing! and do yourseld a favor and stay away from it or as the bible says run! from it

[SaintMorleyDK]

Originally Posted by Sandor

WARNING:

The following comment isn’t about defending porn or condemning it. It’s ONLY relevancy is to discuss porn in its relationship to Mathew Chapter 5, AND THAT’S ALL this comment is about.


Comment begins -


I never intended this to be my first contribution to a post. I was on my way to the “introduce yourself as a newbie” section, and I saw this one.


One of the strange things about this issue of porn (and I mean pornography, not obscenity), is that the human mind is capable of rationalizing nearly anything to suit its interests, and the male mind, if it wanted to, can turn most anything into pornography. When they were big about a decade ago, Victoria's Secret would send us a catalog every two weeks. (Well, to my wife, and not “us”. Ha!) I would bring it to her and say, “Here’s my bi monthly porn mag.” I suppose the joke got old, but the woman I married has been kind to me, so she always gave it a smile.)

I know many would use the biblical comment about the lust in the heart as an argument against porn, but I wonder if that works.


We’ll never know the extent and context to which Jesus meant in this regard and we can’t ask him to clarify it.


There was no porn (in our use of the word) in his day. There was only the looking at, and lusting after women who were not married to you (his words in this instance appear to be directed at the male population), or coveting a woman that is another’s, that is breaking an old testament commandment, who were real persons you could see on a regular basis.


But what about imaginitary creations? Plenty of modern porn involves stuff drawn up (for nearly the sole purpose of carnal lustful thoughts). It’s hard to imagine thinking of cartoon women in the same way as having lust in your heart for a real woman.


What about photos of real women who you’ll never meet? Jesus’s world also didn’t have this as a possibility. 99.9% of ancient Roman times meant one SAW a woman and then thought lustfully about her. In RARE circumstances, one could see her image, because she was famous, but that’s not worth a discussion over. Today, porn photos and movies on the internet feature women who you’re having lustful thoughts over, but have no (real) chance of meeting. So lustful thoughts can’t/won’t lead to the same possible wrongness as they might in biblical times.

In Ancient Rome, if you saw your neighbor’s wife, and she saw you, and she saw how you looked at her, and she was bored at home, this may be trouble, and this is the kind of thing Moses’s commandments were concerned about. But looking at a photo of a woman who lives 5,000 miles away, or one who is in your city, but you’ll never meet, and if you did, you wouldn’t know she was the porn star you saw on your computer, - can you really “covet” her, in the Moses sense?


I guess I have a hard time buying into the idea that one can be adulterous in one’s heart with a photograph or J-peg.

See....the way it shouldn't be thought of as justifiable by the fact that those that you stare at on a computer screen weather cartoon, real or altered is still a mind alteration diverted to a sexual drive or willingness to release the desire to indulge in STILL a very sexual immoral act. See even masturbation is a sin, entertaining your mind with thoughts of these things is still wrong.

It's then a basis of selfish ambition to do these things in your mind to these people without them knowing but it's still done in your heart if there is a longing for even just a moment that it flashes that picture behind your eyes it is considered a lust. If you do not fear how disgusting and sexually immoral our minds truly are then where is the purity in entertaining these thoughts? and for what other reason are these being thought or entertained in our minds but to trigger a physical effect?
I wish I could be free from this in all honesty but it not only emasculates and causes a socially awkward men if they continually do this. (Which I was :S) It causes alot of depression, anxiety, confusion, self condemnation and complete and utter misunderstanding for how to have a proper relationship when the time comes.

I struggled for a long time with how I disliked myself because of this demeaning act of sexual immorality and emasculating opaque faulty belief system that was developed over a number of years doing the same thing over and over and over again. However things have changed since Christ has saved me from this, again I do struggle with this same problem from time to time but reversing the effect of this problem is a challenge that only God could truly conquer because I realize when we can give up before temptation gets to us to conceive sin Christ can take control and change this completely.

I would dislike myself if I was looking at another women the same way I'd look at my wife which might be the case (If or when I do have a wife of my own) I would pray a lot that my wife would understand this and I would push to encourage her that no other could be in her spot within my heart because to me she would be the only one the ONLY one that I would think of that way, she would be my standard of beauty and sexual appeal :P Praise God for his Mercy to allow this to be done with our wives. ^_^ (Again however I probably know so little of this because I haven't had a relationship with a woman in a few years, nor do I have any intended ideas for marriage in the near future. ^_^; It maybe taken as a grain of salt ^_^

[SaintMorleyDK]

Originally Posted by SaintMorleyDK

See....the way it shouldn't be thought of as justifiable by the fact that those that you stare at on a computer screen weather cartoon, real or altered is still a mind alteration diverted to a sexual drive or willingness to release the desire to indulge in STILL a very sexual immoral act. See even masturbation is a sin, entertaining your mind with thoughts of these things is still wrong.

It's then a basis of selfish ambition to do these things in your mind to these people without them knowing but it's still done in your heart if there is a longing for even just a moment that it flashes that picture behind your eyes it is considered a lust. If you do not fear how disgusting and sexually immoral our minds truly are then where is the purity in entertaining these thoughts? and for what other reason are these being thought or entertained in our minds but to trigger a physical effect?
I wish I could be free from this in all honesty but it not only emasculates and causes a socially awkward men if they continually do this. (Which I was :S) It causes alot of depression, anxiety, confusion, self condemnation and complete and utter misunderstanding for how to have a proper relationship when the time comes.

I struggled for a long time with how I disliked myself because of this demeaning act of sexual immorality and emasculating opaque faulty belief system that was developed over a number of years doing the same thing over and over and over again. However things have changed since Christ has saved me from this, again I do struggle with this same problem from time to time but reversing the effect of this problem is a challenge that only God could truly conquer because I realize when we can give up before temptation gets to us to conceive sin Christ can take control and change this completely.

I would dislike myself if I was looking at another women the same way I'd look at my wife which might be the case (If or when I do have a wife of my own) I would pray a lot that my wife would understand this and I would push to encourage her that no other could be in her spot within my heart because to me she would be the only one the ONLY one that I would think of that way, she would be my standard of beauty and sexual appeal :P Praise God for his Mercy to allow this to be done with our wives. ^_^ (Again however I probably know so little of this because I haven't had a relationship with a woman in a few years, nor do I have any intended ideas for marriage in the near future. ^_^; It maybe taken as a grain of salt ^_^

P.S. I do not proclaim to stating that's all my wife would be for me in our marriage. :S I would hope she would be my best friend for life as well as my partner, my helper, and the one that could guard my heart and take me as a living sacrifice.... I would only hope to serve her X_X; MAN I look like a pansy posting on my own comment what I had neglected to post in my previous comment :S I realized how superficial I looked when reading it over XD.

[tush]

Porn is one of the deadliest disease that most of us get infected in without knowing that when it gets in, its difficult to untangle yourself from it. It causes family breakages and difficult to sustain a Godly relationship. I wathed it it a clip of it which then set a drive to watch a whole movie and later i found my self choosing varieties without knowing it was morning. It is very very dangerous! I was filled with guilt and lots of dirty thought were all over my mind.

[GodsavemeifyoureallyExist]

The first time i saw porn

“omg is this legal?!”



Now its just like:


this was my reaction to discovering it existed there was always some pretty blondie with fake boobs

but i havent veiwed it in so long that ive forgotten what it looks like now

i just grew bored of it seeing the same thing over and over again lolz it gets boring

[agentle]

May I add another tool to help those men who are struggling with porn. I'm from Save The Source and we help men and teens stop viewing pornography or being addicted to porn. With 50 to 60% of Christian men viewing porn (with Christian teens it is much higher) something needs to be done because Christ's church is becoming weak. The tool I'm referring to is our Self Help Manual titled, "Empowering Men - To Overcome the Temptation" . You can find it at www.savethesource.org/resources.html . Men and teens can work on this manual in private or with an accountability partner as you suggested. This will definitely help many men and teens be set free. I hope this helps. Thanks

[dothackzero]

and I just failed...

[dothackzero]

and this was after 5 months of not looking...

Would a girl still be interested that fails and looks at this crap, but still gets up to fight again(meaning trying to go on without looking at it)??

[ijustwanttheTruth]

Originally Posted by dothackzero

and this was after 5 months of not looking...

Would a girl still be interested that fails and looks at this crap, but still gets up to fight again(meaning trying to go on without looking at it)??

Dear Lord. please give doth the strength to start over again THIS time. Lord show him that you're fighting this WITH him and that every time we repent we have a fresh start with you. God. give him grace. abundant grace right now Lord. that he would pick up his sword again and not look back.
in Yeshua's precious name i ask. Lord. give us strength to honor you. amen.

yes doth. a girl would be interested in a guy who was fighting for purity even if he didn't win every time. it's the yes that counts. it's the fight that makes us believers. and Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness. a girl that loves you will understand how hard this fight is. and pray WITH you. you are new in Messiah.

don't give up <3

[rosskin92]

Originally Posted by zeroturbulence

Very interesting, but one has to wonder whether their trouble with porn is the cause or the result of not having a gf.

100% in this boat. I finally broke my addiction to looking at the sites about 2 and half mths ago but now that I have removed that from my life... I have realized that sex and porn is EVERYWHERE. Even in places that I would have never though possible... Its the thing I now wrestle with every day :/ but I remember the reason I gave it up and how much more free time and opportunities I have with out it!

[dothackzero]

Originally Posted by ijustwanttheTruth

Dear Lord. please give doth the strength to start over again THIS time. Lord show him that you're fighting this WITH him and that every time we repent we have a fresh start with you. God. give him grace. abundant grace right now Lord. that he would pick up his sword again and not look back.
in Yeshua's precious name i ask. Lord. give us strength to honor you. amen.

yes doth. a girl would be interested in a guy who was fighting for purity even if he didn't win every time. it's the yes that counts. it's the fight that makes us believers. and Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness. a girl that loves you will understand how hard this fight is. and pray WITH you. you are new in Messiah.

don't give up <3

I'll never give up on this. ^_^

Anyway, I think I've come to the conclustion. It looks like 5 months is as far as I can go without looking right now, but with in a another 5 months I'll have grown stronger as a Christian and because I'll be able to go longer without(With God's help) looking at that crap. Okay so it might not work like that, but I am confident that I'm not gonna go back to looking at it once a week like I used a couple years ago.

[GreenNnice]

Originally Posted by dothackzero

I'll never give up on this. ^_^

Anyway, I think I've come to the conclustion. It looks like 5 months is as far as I can go without looking right now, but with in a another 5 months I'll have grown stronger as a Christian and because I'll be able to go longer without(With God's help) looking at that crap. Okay so it might not work like that, but I am confident that I'm not gonna go back to looking at it once a week like I used a couple years ago.

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It's like smoking habit , you just don't usually stop cold turkey, just keep praying to God, dothack0, YOU did not fail, you just did what ANY human struggling with habit does, remisses.

You are well on your way, God bless you and , iwantHisTruth have you a girl's compassionate response, and, girls loathe porn, do it too, too, but we ALL, Christ forgave us for ALL our sins that take us from Him with your saying 'I do ' to Jesus when you were asked yourself IF you wanted to take Jesus into your heart.

You're not perfect , dh0, and, good news! Neither is any one else on planet Earth. And, I het this applies to people on planet Mars and Júpiter too . Well, I know its true, ONLY Jesus was without sin. You are a sweet success, and miracle, and, you are showing soo much with your transparency , you are an INSPIRATION to soo many on c.c..

God bless you, prinny disgeae (that's what dothack0 calls his avatar, btw)

[ijustwanttheTruth]

not sure why i can see a deep fight and heavenly compassion for EVERYONE who struggles, but when it's me i bury myself alive with shame and condemnation. i just have to speak what i feel. and what i feel is a jealous love and ferocious guardianship over those who fight the good fight.

i know the battle intimately.
we are not alone.
and His grace is sufficient.
and HE is ENOUGH.

p.s. for me, today is day 90 of not giving in.

[AAAPlus]

So a buddy of mine once told me this (applies to any addiction, not just porn): if you're still counting how long it has been, you're not over it.

Any thoughts on this? It's hard to NOT count though...especially if you're very logic minded. I always want to be like "I'm not counting! But if I was...it has been three years. Three years and two months!" Maybe I'm just cynical though.

Thoughts?

[ijustwanttheTruth]

Originally Posted by AAAPlus

So a buddy of mine once told me this (applies to any addiction, not just porn): if you're still counting how long it has been, you're not over it.

Any thoughts on this? It's hard to NOT count though...especially if you're very logic minded. I always want to be like "I'm not counting! But if I was...it has been three years. Three years and two months!" Maybe I'm just cynical though.

Thoughts?

i dunno. i tend to count everything. i usually never count past a year on anything. like any life goals or fresh starts. in my calendar i still count. i count bc it helps me fight. i count bc it helps me remember how many days i've already fought. and when i look at a number like 60 days, 90 days.... one moment of fleeting pleasure seems so small compared to that number.

but then again. my personality just happens to be like this obsessive personal record keeper. so. *shrug* how long does it take to be "over it" i'm not sure. i think it's a decision that has to be made continually.

when alcoholics start getting sober in AA, they get a chip for different levels of sobriety. they get one at 24 hours, at 1 month, at 2 months, at 3 months, and then at 1 year, 2 years, etc etc.

when i was free from masturbation before, i didn't count the days. but when it had been a year, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, 5 years, and 6 years, i took note. it's like a celebration to mark discipline and how 'far' we've come.

i sure felt free all those years. i didn't need to count or think about days or years. but i felt a certain joy when i remembered how long it's been.

that's my thought on the matter of counting. i love to count.

[Tommy4Christ]

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God!

I am just bewildered by all your very scary comments on porn, do you all consider yourselves to be Christian and saved? The only biblical and moral answer to this question is NO! all sins of the flesh lead to death and separation from God!
Rev 21:8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
The word of God is clear, the road is narrow, and the few of the few will be saved! Stop playing around with sin, you must crucify your flesh with Christ, Galatians 2:20, through repentance, 2 Corinthians 7-10-11, apart from this God says we must flee from all sexual immorality.
You were not born sinner, you have chosen to disobey God in place of your lustful flesh and desires, you have chosen to please self over God, and His wrath remains on the children of disobedience!
Col 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
Col 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience.
You must put the axe to the root, meaning CUT the sin out in repentance, and seek Gods mercy for your willful sin against Him! Flee from the false teachers(wolves) who tel you its OK to watch porn, or any of the Hollywood garbage movies, spend that time in Gods word, learn the truth, seek it with all diligence and passion as your eternal life depends on it!
I was a porn addict for over 30 years,nearly sent me to hell, I considered myself saved and a Christian while I indulged my flesh as I so desired, but was lukewarm, and on my way to Hell! This is no laughing matter, I would hope and pray a few of you would take what I am saying seriously, then repent, shed blood if you have to to stop your vile sins against God and seek His mercy, instead of asking a rhetorical question about porn, why don't you ask another question? For example:
If a professing Christian continues to watch porn in any way shape or form will he or she inherit eternal life?
Answers:
A, No, the soul who sins will die! EZE 18:20.
B, Yes, only if they repent, Isa 55-7, stop the sin, and seek the mercy of God!
Most of you have bought into the lie that you will not die if you sin, you are eternally secure, and all you have to do is trust in Christ, and His provision and you are saved, made popular by Billy Graham.
Wake up! Stop playing around with sin and worldliness, the churches today are death traps, resembling the world over the house of God. Jesus said those who are His obey His commands, John 14:15, deny self and follow Him. Luke 9:23.
If anyone tells you you can continue in this behavior, or its normal, or God has already pre forgiven you for these sins, you have been greatly deceived!
2Th 2:10 and with all deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, so that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie,
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that whoever looks on a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

The gospel according to godliness is clear, and very simple to understand, you either crucify the flesh along with its passions and desires with Christ, Gal 5:24, through repentance, or you Will die spiritually! Its that simple, just consider your decisions here, is it worth it to continue watching porn, and risk loosing your soul and destroying your present life? And putting your eternal destiny in great jeopardy?
The doubleminded will not inherit the kingdom of God, either you are for Christ and against all known sin, especially sins of the flesh, or you are not, choose this day who you will serve!
Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Its either God or Porn(your flesh) it cannot be both!

[GreenNnice]

Originally Posted by AAAPlus

So a buddy of mine once told me this (applies to any addiction, not just porn): if you're still counting how long it has been, you're not over it.

Any thoughts on this? It's hard to NOT count though...especially if you're very logic minded. I always want to be like "I'm not counting! But if I was...it has been three years. Three years and two months!" Maybe I'm just cynical though.

Thoughts?

V much wisdom from iwantnothingbutHisTruth , AAAPlus V

The Lord leads....

Originally Posted by ijustwanttheTruth

i dunno. i tend to count everything. i usually never count past a year on anything. like any life goals or fresh starts. in my calendar i still count. i count bc it helps me fight. i count bc it helps me remember how many days i've already fought. and when i look at a number like 60 days, 90 days.... one moment of fleeting pleasure seems so small compared to that number.

but then again. my personality just happens to be like this obsessive personal record keeper. so. *shrug* how long does it take to be "over it" i'm not sure. i think it's a decision that has to be made continually.

when alcoholics start getting sober in AA, they get a chip for different levels of sobriety. they get one at 24 hours, at 1 month, at 2 months, at 3 months, and then at 1 year, 2 years, etc etc.

when i was free from masturbation before, i didn't count the days. but when it had been a year, 2 years, 3 years, 4 years, 5 years, and 6 years, i took note. it's like a celebration to mark discipline and how 'far' we've come.

i sure felt free all those years. i didn't need to count or think about days or years. but i felt a certain joy when i remembered how long it's been.

that's my thought on the matter of counting. i love to count.

May God continue to bring you your joy, k, listen to Him . The Lord leads.

The world has enough christian counselors (note: I am being facetious) , what the world needs now is more christian accountants

Originally Posted by Tommy4Christ

1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God!

I am just bewildered by all your very scary comments on porn, do you all consider yourselves to be Christian and saved? The only biblical and moral answer to this question is NO! all sins of the flesh lead to death and separation from God!
Rev 21:8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
The word of God is clear, the road is narrow, and the few of the few will be saved! Stop playing around with sin, you must crucify your flesh with Christ, Galatians 2:20, through repentance, 2 Corinthians 7-10-11, apart from this God says we must flee from all sexual immorality.
You were not born sinner, you have chosen to disobey God in place of your lustful flesh and desires, you have chosen to please self over God, and His wrath remains on the children of disobedience!
Col 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
Col 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience.
You must put the axe to the root, meaning CUT the sin out in repentance, and seek Gods mercy for your willful sin against Him! Flee from the false teachers(wolves) who tel you its OK to watch porn, or any of the Hollywood garbage movies, spend that time in Gods word, learn the truth, seek it with all diligence and passion as your eternal life depends on it!
I was a porn addict for over 30 years,nearly sent me to hell, I considered myself saved and a Christian while I indulged my flesh as I so desired, but was lukewarm, and on my way to Hell! This is no laughing matter, I would hope and pray a few of you would take what I am saying seriously, then repent, shed blood if you have to to stop your vile sins against God and seek His mercy, instead of asking a rhetorical question about porn, why don't you ask another question? For example:
If a professing Christian continues to watch porn in any way shape or form will he or she inherit eternal life?
Answers:
A, No, the soul who sins will die! EZE 18:20.
B, Yes, only if they repent, Isa 55-7, stop the sin, and seek the mercy of God!
Most of you have bought into the lie that you will not die if you sin, you are eternally secure, and all you have to do is trust in Christ, and His provision and you are saved, made popular by Billy Graham.
Wake up! Stop playing around with sin and worldliness, the churches today are death traps, resembling the world over the house of God. Jesus said those who are His obey His commands, John 14:15, deny self and follow Him. Luke 9:23.
If anyone tells you you can continue in this behavior, or its normal, or God has already pre forgiven you for these sins, you have been greatly deceived!
2Th 2:10 and with all deceit of unrighteousness in those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, so that they might be saved.
2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie,
Mat 5:28 But I say to you that whoever looks on a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

The gospel according to godliness is clear, and very simple to understand, you either crucify the flesh along with its passions and desires with Christ, Gal 5:24, through repentance, or you Will die spiritually! Its that simple, just consider your decisions here, is it worth it to continue watching porn, and risk loosing your soul and destroying your present life? And putting your eternal destiny in great jeopardy?
The doubleminded will not inherit the kingdom of God, either you are for Christ and against all known sin, especially sins of the flesh, or you are not, choose this day who you will serve!
Jos 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.
Its either God or Porn(your flesh) it cannot be both!

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Looks like you and I could be going at it for a bit today......

God is who is in control of your life and WHATEVER is in your life is FINE if God has SHOWED you it to be something that He wants in your life. That goes for ANYTHING, _________ fill in the blank.

So, be VERY careful in your judging above and, your blanket statement on the church is agian dangerous judgment, I think.

God is in control of our life, it is a PERSONAL relationship with Him that matters, judge not others. Let God do the judging. OK, great, you say the church of today is representing 'death traps,' as you put it ( maybe your church is) but you are speaking death to a vehicle (church) that inspires and SAVES so many by saying these 'deathly' things. I pray I say things not meaning meannness, the Lord leads.

God can have ANYTHING in our life positive , it is what we DO with that positive and IF we are with Him in our life then evil will not overcome the good . Again, the Lord leads , follow Him , for your own personal life, follow Him , with prayer, with thanksgiving, supplication, every thing that you can, and, follow Him with all your mind, heart, body, and, soul, .
Sure, porn is not good, I am not saying it is, in any way, shape, or form, but I am saying that God is judge over ALL and porn is included and what He tells us to do in our life IF we are wholeheartedly serving Him is ANYTHING.

I hope this makes sense, God bless you , Tommy4Christ, for giving us your worldly experience of porn having taken apart your life and, PRAISE GOD! , you discovered that that pain was unraveling your life into what I can only guess was abuses that were NOT of God. God is good, total goodness, and, whatever we do, from it, we WILL get His good. God, through scripture, like Romans 12:1,2, can show us just how GOOD life without things that are hurting us and keeping us from Him. So, YES!, I 100% agree, things in our life that negatively have us do BAD things are not good in our life but, ultimately, God knows what it is we NEED. Don't think you have better plans for someone than God.

[ijustwanttheTruth]

Originally Posted by GreenNnice

May God continue to bring you your joy, k, listen to Him . The Lord leads.

The world has enough christian counselors (note: I am being facetious) , what the world needs now is more christian accountants

account i will, beloved of God <3
and i shall keep aCCOUNTABLE as well.
i will stand and be counted.
and i will count.
for His glory.

love <3

[GreenNnice]

Originally Posted by ijustwanttheTruth

account i will, beloved of God <3
and i shall keep aCCOUNTABLE as well.
i will stand and be counted.
and i will count.
for His glory.

love <3

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Amen, k. Let us ALL count our blessings, count our mercies, count our graces, and, not count the days or the hours until His coming again, for we do not know, but when He comes may our accounts be pleasing to Him so that He counts up all we've done on Earth and says Here standing before me iis a man/woman after my own heart, with whom I am well pleased.'