Admission of wrong. A huge double standard?

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1still_waters

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I've noticed a double standard when it comes to 'admission of wrongness'. I've observed it repeatedly from different people, when discussing this topic.

The double standard goes something like this....

For men....
Woman: He needs to admit he's wrong.
Man: Fine I was wrong.


For women....
Man: She just won't admit when she's wrong.
Woman: Would you rather be right or have peace?


Why can women default to the "Would you rather be right of have peace?' statement?

Like I said, I've observed this repeatedly, and amongst different people, So it leads me to conclude there is a HUGE double standard on this issue.
 

Liamson

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I think I'll take my corner of the roof thank you very much.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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I've noticed a double standard when it comes to 'admission of wrongness'. I've observed it repeatedly from different people, when discussing this topic.

The double standard goes something like this....

For men....
Woman: He needs to admit he's wrong.
Man: Fine I was wrong.


For women....
Man: She just won't admit when she's wrong.
Woman: Would you rather be right or have peace?


Why can women default to the "Would you rather be right of have peace?' statement?

Like I said, I've observed this repeatedly, and amongst different people, So it leads me to conclude there is a HUGE double standard on this issue.
I agree, an i've been guilty of doing this. Not saying those exact words, but not wanting to admit that im wrong. Someone brought that to my attention several years ago, and i've been trying to correct it ever since.
I can say now that its really a lot easier for me to say i was wrong, an mostly because im wrong a lot :D
 

PopClick

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Would it be cliche if I say the OP is wrong, but won't admit it?

Yes. Yes, I think it would. So I won't say it. :p
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I'm quite happy with letting men think they are right :D
 
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iraasuup

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I understand how you might have experienced this, and thus are making a generalisation about it, however, let it be known not ALL women are not like that!
I am the first to admit im wrong, in any situation... work, home, relationship. If I am wrong, I'll stick my hand up and say 'Yeah, that was my mistake. Sorry' and suffer whatever consequences come my way.

My experience has been that people in my life have seen that as a reason to belittle me, humiliate me, tell me how hopeless I am. But, had I not admittted to it, I would have (a) been lying, and (b) made them feel exactly the way you just described. It's really a no-win situation. This was particularly evident to me in my marriage. I'd make a mistake, he'd badger me about it, telling me I'm hopeless. Okay, so I failed, but how about you show me how to do it properly next time, instead of humiliating me for a simple mistake...which I confessed to?

It's my personal mandate to admit when Im wrong. It always has been, and I will continue to live that way, because I believe it's the right thing to do. I just dont think ALL women are as you described. Clearly, I am not...and I admit all men are not as I have experienced either.

I believe EVERYONE should be able to admit fault.

One of the characteristics I dislike the most in anybody.. is people who play the blame game. I can't stand it, and if you do it, and I find out about it.. (because not only are you not taking responsibility for your actions, but you're lying to me)... man watch out! By this I mean, people who continually blame others for their own actions.

That is all

*end rant*
 
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episcopotic

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Why can women default to the "Would you rather be right of have peace?' statement?
Because of what comes next, I think. If a woman holds a grudge, she has a number of socially acceptable "weapons" at her disposal. If she threatens this, the man sleeps on the couch, she visits her mother, etc. Relatively few women are going to physically assault their husbands.

If a man holds a grudge, there's at least a subtle threat of violence. Very generally speaking, anyway, and we're speaking generally. There are fewer "punishments" available to him, not that any of them are a good idea. So, we don't make those threats because we know how they'll sound.

Or so my sister explained to me when I asked why the default stance of many woman towards strange men, even in safe places, was fearful. I was heartbroken when in the supermarket browsing through the bagels, I noticed a mother at the end of the aisle, holding back her children and staring me down.

Apparently, when spouses are screaming at each other, you can seem like a strange man.
 

Oncefallen

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**slowly backs away from the thread rather than end up having to admit he was wrong. :D
 
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djness

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lol

How many times have I heard "Leave me alone I'm a girl", come out instead ''Sorry I was wrong''.
There isn't enough space for it here is how many.
 
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Jullianna

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Confession is good for the soul.

If I'm wrong, I would far rather admit it up front than have to listen to "I told you so" later on. THAT's the annoying part. ;)
 

Oncefallen

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Believe me, more than enough people have had "I told you so" rights on me in my life. It sure can make for awkward moments.
 
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GRA

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iraasuup said:
My experience has been that people in my life have seen that as a reason to belittle me, humiliate me, tell me how hopeless I am.
Yes - often, some people seem to believe that "telling the truth" is a sign of weakness.

I believe that it is a sign of strength. :cool: Standing firm on truth and principle in the face of criticism or ridicule is evidence of "inner strength"... :)

iraasuup said:
It's my personal mandate to admit when Im wrong. It always has been, and I will continue to live that way, because I believe it's the right thing to do.
And you are right.

iraasuup said:
I believe EVERYONE should be able to admit fault.
Not just 'be able', but should period.

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Liz01

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I like to admit it when im wrong.

But when someone is aggressive with me its harder to admit so i wait until that person is relaxed to talk and then admit what im wrong or not.
 
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I've noticed a double standard when it comes to 'admission of wrongness'. I've observed it repeatedly from different people, when discussing this topic.

The double standard goes something like this....

For men....
Woman: He needs to admit he's wrong.
Man: Fine I was wrong.


For women....
Man: She just won't admit when she's wrong.
Woman: Would you rather be right or have peace?


Why can women default to the "Would you rather be right of have peace?' statement?

Like I said, I've observed this repeatedly, and amongst different people, So it leads me to conclude there is a HUGE double standard on this issue.
Because when it comes to dealing with women, most men are wimps (including me).

And that's probably the way it should be.
 
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For women....
Man: She just won't admit when she's wrong.
Woman: Would you rather be right or have peace?


Why can women default to the "Would you rather be right of have peace?' statement?
That's when I pull out the disrespect card.lol Nothing Christ-like about a person who will play that game.
 
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CatWoman

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I have no choice but to admit when I'm wrong, I'm a terrable lier.
I really dont thik its right if a man has a talk with his woman about something she did wrong and her answer is "Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy?"That is so disrespectful. Its like saying " I dont give a hoot about how you feel or think."I was tought the "do you want to be right or do you want to be happy" thing in church and it wasnt ment to be used as a defence. It was ment for people to forgive others not so others can forgive you.
 
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violakat

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Here's the thing, if I believe I'm dead right on something, I will not admit I'm wrong, unless proven wrong, with the exception of saying admitting it to an arrogant person. Yeah, that's where I have problems admitting I'm wrong, to someone who's arrogant. Especially and arrogant know it all. However, in general, if I'm wrong, then I'm willing to admit it.

Oh and Stilly, I find the same thing in some men, they can't admit they are wrong either.
 

Liamson

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The thing about BEING right or wrong is that it has nothing to do with YOU! YOU as a person cannot be RIGHT or WRONG, the information can be right and the information can be wrong. You are just a person and should not take it personally, when you find yourself in the position of being incorrect.

It has to do with clinging to the idea that what you or I thought before, we can no longer think.

Its like if we all thought that we were right about something and then found out we weren't. That doesn't change who we are, nor should it really change how people view us.

When I found out that The book: Song of Solomon, wasn't a graphical allegory. I didn't take offense. I simply accepted it and moved on.

Life is too short. :)
 

Oncefallen

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I think the greatest hurdle for any of us to clear, male of female, is being able to have a heart that actually listens and is teachable. All too often we are more concerned with "being right" instead of being open to the idea that we could be wrong.