"Choice" as an escape hatch to avoid consequences of previous choices.

[1still_waters]

I notice that the term "choice" is more and more being used as an escape hatch, so you don't have to deal with the consequences of previous choices made.

I notice this in things like abortion and artificial insemination in couples of old age, like 50 or older.

I don't want to limit the scope of this thread on 'choice' as an escape hatch to just abortion and the artificial insemination in older couples. Those were just mentioned as examples.

This trend is really concerning to me.

So often someone will make a clear decision ahead of time, but then when it comes time for reaping the consequences of that decision, they seek an escape hatch, and they call it 'choice'.

For example, a couple/person, CHOOSES to have sex. But to avoid the consequences of that, they have an abortion, and justify it by saying it is a 'choice'.

Or a couple may CHOOSE to spend their youthful years on other things. You know the years when biologically it's more likely to have a baby and have said energy to raise that child better. Yet when they get near the age of 50, and can no longer naturally have children, they go for artificial insemination, all again in the name of 'choice'. (And there are a guzillion nuanced exceptions to the rule that may apply to this scenario. Please don't list them all off. I think you get the idea of what I'm getting at.)

And I think appealing to 'choice' as an escape hatch to avoid consequences of previous choices, is almost becoming second nature. So second nature that people forget that initial choices DO have consequences and outcomes.

 

[Nautilus]

Out of curiosity, whats wrong with artificial insemination?

As far as choice goes, we all have choices but I think its stupid to use it as an escape hatch. More like you made the choice now live with the conseuences

 

[1still_waters]

Out of curiosity, whats wrong with artificial insemination?

As far as choice goes, we all have choices but I think its stupid to use it as an escape hatch. More like you made the choice now live with the conseuences

Did you notice that the scope I put on this was OLD couples who have it done because they CHOSE to spend their younger years doing other stuff, when their bodies were more capable of having kids. Thus for them, in this very narrowly defined scope, artificial insemination is an escape hatch for the CHOICE they made when they were younger.
Also notice the qualifier I put in there acknowledging all the nuances and exceptions to the rules that I'm not addressing.

In other words I'm not saying anything is wrong with artificial insemination in and of itself.

The very specific defined scope was for OLDER couples using it as an escape hatch for choices made when younger.

 

[violakat]

What if those older couples only became married at an older age?

However, I personally feel that if I were to get married any much later than I am now, I'd rather adopt. And part of it is the fact that I am older.

 

[1still_waters]

What if those older couples only became married at an older age?

However, I personally feel that if I were to get married any much later than I am now, I'd rather adopt. And part of it is the fact that I am older.

(And there are a guzillion nuanced exceptions to the rule that may apply to this scenario. Please don't list them all off. I think you get the idea of what I'm getting at.)

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[violakat]

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I'm sorry, I really couldn't resist. I think I must have had way to many Dr. Peppers this week. It's beginning to effect my brain.

 

[Jullianna]

"Choice" flows more lightly off the tongue than harsh reality, Stilly.

Society is all about renaming/re-definining a lot of things these days, huh? You know, like those enlightened people who lived in The Capitol in Hunger Games?

 

[1still_waters]

"Choice" flows more lightly off the tongue than harsh reality, Stilly.

Society is all about renaming/re-definining a lot of things these days, huh? You know, like those enlightened people who lived in The Capitol in Hunger Games?

Mmmmhmmmmm.

 

[Nautilus]

Did you notice that the scope I put on this was OLD couples who have it done because they CHOSE to spend their younger years doing other stuff, when their bodies were more capable of having kids. Thus for them, in this very narrowly defined scope, artificial insemination is an escape hatch for the CHOICE they made when they were younger.
Also notice the qualifier I put in there acknowledging all the nuances and exceptions to the rules that I'm not addressing.

In other words I'm not saying anything is wrong with artificial insemination in and of itself.

The very specific defined scope was for OLDER couples using it as an escape hatch for choices made when younger.

I can agree with this but I also can't fault someone for waiting until they were older to have cjildren. I know Im 29 and I have made a choice not to have kids til my mid-late thirties which I admit is completely selfish.

 

[violakat]

Natulis, I think what he's referring to is the fact that older adults who have children around 51, will be nearly 70 by the time their child graduates from college. That's past the retirement age by several years. Most adults, once they hit about late 30's early 40's, begin to develop arthritis. Not to mention, some start having severe health problems. Is it right for a child, say about 20, to have to take care of two older ailing parents? I think that's what he's getting at.