"At Least I Got a Free Dinner Out Of It!" (Christianity vs. Chivalry?)

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"At Least I Got a Free Dinner Out Of It!"

  • I am a woman and feel it's fine to let a guy pay for me on a date, no matter what.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I am a woman and have let a guy pay, knowing full well I'm not interested in him.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am a woman and have gone out with a guy I really liked, let him pay, but then found out I'm not in

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am a woman and feel it's best to pay my own way on a date.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I am a woman and believe a guy should always pay for a first date with no complaints. It's just how

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I am a woman and I offer to pay for the guy as well as myself on a first date.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I am a woman and have felt used when I've paid for a guy on a date.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I am a man and believe guys should always offer to pay for the first date.

    Votes: 8 72.7%
  • I am a man and have gone out with a girl, knowing I don't like her but can get her to pay for me.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am a man who has gone out with a girl and let her pay, but decided I didnt like her AFTER the dat

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I am a man and would be flattered if a woman offered to pay for me.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I am a man and believe it's a sign of weakness/not being a man if I let a woman pay.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am a man and have been used by women for free dinners and movies. I was very hurt and upset.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Having someone occasionally use you for material things is just part of dating.

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • I have given up on dating because of feeling used for material things.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I have used someone for a free meal and I feel guilty about it.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I have used someone for a free meal and don't feel guilty at all--the other person offered!

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • I have used someone and later asked that person to forgive me.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I have been used by others and have forgiven them.

    Votes: 2 18.2%
  • As a Christian, it's ok to "get a free dinner" out of a date.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • As a Christian, God would want me to pay for myself to keep the other person from feeling used.

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Having the man pay is just part of chivalry--don't worry about it!

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • Men shouldn't complain about paying, even if the girl doesn't really like him--that's just part of d

    Votes: 4 36.4%
  • A man can be chivalrous in other ways besides paying, such as: (share your thoughts)

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • Other--I have something to share in my post.

    Votes: 1 9.1%

  • Total voters
    11

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
May 23, 2009
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Hey Everyone!

Most of us have had some experience with the title of this thread--have you ever gone out with someone you weren't all that interested in and thought, "Oh well, at least I'll get a free dinner out of it!" Or, maybe you actually did like the person but things didn't turn out so well, so you see the meal as some sort of consolation prize. (Or, of course, you may be the person who shelled out the money for the other person's meal and was promptly dumped afterwards.)

As Christians, I'm pretty sure God doesn't want us using anyone for anything, no matter what the reason. If we're thinking in our hearts, "I can use this person for free food," I highly doubt that God considers this to be "loving our neighbor as ourselves".

Now maybe some of you feel differently... Is it ok to let someone pay for you even if you know you don't really like the person?

But what about the issue of chivalry vs. treating someone with Godly respect?

Personally, I love it when guys still believe in chivalry. I am happy with something as simple as McDonald's, but I really smile inside if a guy insists on paying for the first date because there's something so "gentlemanly" about it.

However, I struggle with not wanting to make someone feel used, so I always offer to pay my own way and in some cases, I'll pay for his meal as well. (I don't date often--maybe 2 times a year, and that's setting a record :)). I have had some incidences where the guy drove a bit of a distance to meet me and so when the check came, I automatically took care of it for both of us because I wanted to keep the financial investment even.

But at the same time, I miss the feeling of being taken care of. And yet, none of the dates have ever turned into anything so I'm glad I can at least know the person won't feel that I used him.

What do you all think of situations like this? Have you ever used someone for a free meal? Has someone ever used you for something? What is the solution? Should the woman always offer to pay her own way so that the guy won't feel used? And if she does pay her own way... Is there anything else we can do to keep good old-fashioned chivalry alive?

The poll is anonymous and multiple choice, but PLEASE post your experiences/thoughts as well. I'd love to know how you feel about this topic. Happy sharing! :)
 
Feb 10, 2008
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I see it as a privilege to be blessed financially. I have and do insist on paying for meals out with someone I am in a relationship with. I don't know that I do it because I'd feel weak or less of a man if I didn't. That said, I don't 'date' in the sense that many people do; I only really go on dates with girls that I have already established a close relationship with, so maybe that changes things.

I struggled with this idea for a while in my last relationship. After almost 2 years she started complaining about me always paying for meals. I was working fulltime and she was still in college, so I had no problem at all doing it. She felt like she lost her self-reliance, and compared it to how pimps get new girls. Needless to say after that she paid sometimes.
 

Nautilus

Senior Member
Jun 29, 2012
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#3
meh i always pay for the first date out of gentlemenliness. But if im seriously dating someone they need to be kicking in some cash. I have other things i like spending my money on thats not buying someone elses dinner...mostly myself
 
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AgeofKnowledge

Guest
#4
None of the above except "Other":

People (both male and female) may pay for their own meals unless they decide to pay for someone else's as a free gift without the expectation that they will get something in return for it.
 
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Relena7

Guest
#5
I didn't vote. That poll look scary and big, LOL. :)

I think that whoever makes more money should offer to pay for both the first time, regardless of gender.
Unless the person that makes less money was the one who asked them out, in that case the person who makes more should at least offer to pay for half the bill.

If it's a long term relationship, then each can pay half, or work it out amongst themselves.

Even though I'm kind of broke I'm personally most comfortable "going dutch". I feel guilty if he's always paying for me, lol.
 
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Jullianna

Guest
#6
I can't ever remember thinking I was going to get a free meal out of going out with someone. Something about that seems so cold and calculating to me, or that I would need to wear a "for sale or rent" sign around my neck. :) If I go out with someone, it's because I want to spend one on one time getting to know them, even if I'm not sure it would ever come to anything. The one exception to that would be accompanying a guy to a wedding, because y'all know I'll def go for the CAKE. :D ;)

I don't have a problem in sharing expenses, but most of the things I like to do really don't involve much expense. If a guy takes me out to expensive places all the time and insists on paying for everything, it gives me a guilt trip and can actually be a bit distracting. I like to reserve things like that for special occasions. Otherwise, it becomes routine rather than special. It means much more when you can invest some thought in things you can do together rather than how much you can spend.
 

seoulsearch

OutWrite Trouble
May 23, 2009
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If I go out with someone, it's because I want to spend one on one time getting to know them, even if I'm not sure it would ever come to anything. The one exception to that would be accompanying a guy to a wedding, because y'all know I'll def go for the CAKE. :D ;)
Ha ha ha, Jules, I guess I should have entitled this thread, "At Least I Got to Eat Free Wedding Cake!" :D I am right there with you!!

Love your answer!! :)
 
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Jullianna

Guest
#8
I am actually leaving for a wedding right now. I'll eat some cake for you!
 
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libertygirl

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#9
Personally, I love it when guys still believe in chivalry. I am happy with something as simple as McDonald's, but I really smile inside if a guy insists on paying for the first date because there's something so "gentlemanly" about it.

I'm a bit of a traditionalist, so I think the guy should pay. If he can't afford it, I have no problems going to McDonalds. Now, if he was completely broke I would be okay going on a non-restaurant date, like a picnic in the park. :)
 
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Jullianna

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#10
I love picnics :) Very romantic
 

seoulsearch

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I would so totally go on a date with Darth Vader. And if he wanted to pay, who am I to argue???!!
 

error

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I don't go out with someone (on a date) with a thought-oh, nice, he will pay for my meal :D I go on a date to get to know someone better. :)
But yeah, i have friends (guys) who can pay for ''our'' breakfast and don't think its a problem. Like for example- if we are going to ride our bikes together-and we stop somewhere to eat breakfast-he asks me-do you want somethng?! and if i want somethng-he pays for it.
For us it is normal. I mean-i can pay for my friends meal. And they can pay for mine.

As for a date-i prefer generous guys, but i don't mind to pay for my own meal.
To be honest i don't like cheap men. I'm not a gold digger, but as i said i like generous men.
 
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Powemm

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#14
I think it's all about the seasoning of the relationship...
As friendships establish and build towards hanging out and spending time together... It's a good time to observe things ... We go from independence of self, to cooperation and understanding of Another persons needs.. there is an opportunity to give and take in this area... This allows time for both people to observe important characteristics in the other person...Characteristics of support, dependability , cooperation, trust and financial responsibility , that could make or break a relationship.
If one person is doing all the spending I have to ask myself am I depleting, balancing or depositing their account.. No
Matter if its emotional or financial its an important question to ask.. if all I'm doing is taking, I'm depleting.. If all I'm doing is giving I'm depositing... If both are making deposites there is balance . wich I feel is a better building block financially... We walk so haphazardly sometimes that we never think about what we are truly walking into... Spoken from experience only...
 

Oncefallen

Idiot in Chief
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Jan 15, 2011
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When it comes to a woman asking me out, I guess it depends on the nature of the relationship. I have had several female friends ask me to lunch, dinner, coffee, etc. strictly because they enjoy my company, not because they are pursuing a romantic relationship.

Regardless of who asked who did the inviting, and regardless of whether there is the pursuit of romance or not I pay the bulk majority of the time, not out of the feeling of obligation or necessarily chivalry, I'm just a generous person (it could also be a pride thing). Sure, my generosity has been taken advantage of, but I refuse to allow those who have abused it jade my perspective of the world.