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I'm looking for the Parable of the Predestined prodigal son. Or maybe its the good yet eternally Reprobate Samaritan.
When Jesus was saddened at the Rich Young ruler, it was because He deliberately did not activate His "Inward Calling" powers upon the Young Man.
Or there must have been some Pre ordained causality when Jesus meets the Centurion, and He is in fact not astonished at the Centurions faith but Rather Marveling at His own powers of imbuing Faith within individuals.
When Jesus was saddened at the Rich Young ruler, it was because He deliberately did not activate His "Inward Calling" powers upon the Young Man.
Or there must have been some Pre ordained causality when Jesus meets the Centurion, and He is in fact not astonished at the Centurions faith but Rather Marveling at His own powers of imbuing Faith within individuals.
P
"Are you denying that Christ is Priest, King and Prophet? Of course you don't."
This is not an example of how Christ's Relationship with the Church is like a marriage. No one is going disagree with you that Christ is not King, Priest, Prophet, Lord, Savior, Son of God, etc. But it doesn't have anything to do with how being 32 and independent is wrong.
"Modern Convention and Habits are no excuse. Liberalism is Heresy"
So... you are suggesting that if.
You walk in here? Tell us all that we are heretics and have the bible wrong?
Despite the fact that many of us have been Christians for years?
Despite the fact that some of us have been Christians for decades?
Despite the fact that we too have the holy spirit?
We are then going to instantly believe you and recognise the errors of our way?
To think that your Church alone has the answers is quite arrogant. EVERY church has things wrong. Especially since you do not have a firm understanding what other church's believes or why. No church has it right.
I would also ask you the question - your church was formed in maybe the 1600's? Do you think that after 1500 years of Christianity your church suddenly got it all right? That all the Christians in the previous 1500 years had it wrong? And do you think that all the other reformed churches have it all wrong? We too have the spirit.
I'm honestly a little concerned by your church - particularly the part where you said we are under law. I posted a small bible quote in response to that directly stating that we are not under law. To use your most eloquent phrasing it doesn't get any plainer than that.
You walk in here? Tell us all that we are heretics and have the bible wrong?
Despite the fact that many of us have been Christians for years?
Despite the fact that some of us have been Christians for decades?
Despite the fact that we too have the holy spirit?
We are then going to instantly believe you and recognise the errors of our way?
To think that your Church alone has the answers is quite arrogant. EVERY church has things wrong. Especially since you do not have a firm understanding what other church's believes or why. No church has it right.
I would also ask you the question - your church was formed in maybe the 1600's? Do you think that after 1500 years of Christianity your church suddenly got it all right? That all the Christians in the previous 1500 years had it wrong? And do you think that all the other reformed churches have it all wrong? We too have the spirit.
I'm honestly a little concerned by your church - particularly the part where you said we are under law. I posted a small bible quote in response to that directly stating that we are not under law. To use your most eloquent phrasing it doesn't get any plainer than that.
Yes... the true Church was formed when Christ died, it went a bit skewy at points though... Thus the reformation. but let me ask you.
Where throughout history have church's claimed we are under law as your church suggests.
We are not under law but grace.
Galatians
19Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made.20Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one.21Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law.22But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
23But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed.24Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith.25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.26For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.27
Romans
13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
Slaves to Righteousness
15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! 16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
There is a second bible verse directly stating that we are not under law. Please... explain to me how these verses
One thing someone said to me once - he was telling me things I disagreed with lol. You need to read the bible for what it says. Not read it with the film of Armineism or the film of calvinism or the film of puritanism.
Read the bible for yourself.
Where throughout history have church's claimed we are under law as your church suggests.
We are not under law but grace.
Galatians
19Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made.20Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one.21Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law.22But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
23But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed.24Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith.25But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.26For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus.27
Romans
13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
Slaves to Righteousness
15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! 16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?
There is a second bible verse directly stating that we are not under law. Please... explain to me how these verses
One thing someone said to me once - he was telling me things I disagreed with lol. You need to read the bible for what it says. Not read it with the film of Armineism or the film of calvinism or the film of puritanism.
Read the bible for yourself.
D
Sis I get clarity from God about the confusing things of the word. If you take everything in the Bible in its literal sense then it becomes a contradiction when discussing numerous subjects. That aside what does Pslams 100 teach us. Do we ignore 1 Corinthians 11:5. We have to be ever so careful about picking and choosing what we take literal in the Bible.
T
Yes, HIS household. Also, women aren't cattle, they aren't their dad's property. Daughters are a blessing from God to their dad (and mum). Also, this idea of having a marriage dowry is out-dated, not just because we live in different times and the Truth is irrelevant (we do and it's not - God's Truth is Absolute) but because many women in society work and provide for themselves and their families. The dowry was a concept used in the days when women didn't have rights and most didn't have paid jobs. That's not the norm any more (except, sadly, in the poorer countries).
Cutting to the chase, yes, if you have been informed to expect it. If you're following a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night it's perfectly reasonable to expect that if it leads you to an obstacle that obstetrical may be overcome by supernatural means.
If you know this happened:
Then it reasonably follows that this will happen
Even if no other natural causation indicates it will. Gods power is higher than any other, it is entirely reasonable to expect his will to be done no mater what any other power or force may dictate.
The same applies to resurrection, or any other modern day miracles you can reasonably expect.
If you know this happened:
Then it reasonably follows that this will happen
Even if no other natural causation indicates it will. Gods power is higher than any other, it is entirely reasonable to expect his will to be done no mater what any other power or force may dictate.
The same applies to resurrection, or any other modern day miracles you can reasonably expect.